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Ferry bad news for "TRNC"

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Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:59 pm

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The TRNC has made a decision to distribute disputed land and if a solution comes we will either pay the price in full, part or get off scott free but seeing there is no solution there is no problem. The GCs can claim illegality but if their is no recourse or way of imposing a judgement in the TRNC then there is a stalemate just like we have today.



VP, do me a big favour and stop using the word "disputed land", but if you are going to use it, because you don't want to be truthful and say it is a stolen land, then tell us just how is it "disputed". When the Israelis use the same term in describing Palestinian land, I want to reach into the TV and slap the person who is saying it. You are much luckier being at the end of an Internet computer terminal and I can't see you, and yet I get frustrated with you, for not being honest with yourself, and when you are not being honest with yourself, I find it hard to accept your other points as being honest and truthful.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:14 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The TRNC has made a decision to distribute disputed land and if a solution comes we will either pay the price in full, part or get off scott free but seeing there is no solution there is no problem. The GCs can claim illegality but if their is no recourse or way of imposing a judgement in the TRNC then there is a stalemate just like we have today.



VP, do me a big favour and stop using the word "disputed land", but if you are going to use it, because you don't want to be truthful and say it is a stolen land, then tell us just how is it "disputed". When the Israelis use the same term in describing Palestinian land, I want to reach into the TV and slap the person who is saying it. You are much luckier being at the end of an Internet computer terminal and I can't see you, and yet I get frustrated with you, for not being honest with yourself, and when you are not being honest with yourself, I find it hard to accept your other points as being honest and truthful.


As long as the Cypro continues it is perfectly fine to refer to it as "disputed".

I'm sure VP would like to see a fair and just conclusion to this problem. I'd like to think that the vast majority of TCs would like to see the GCs get their land/properties back or at least be compensated that would satisfy them financially.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:24 pm

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Kikapu wrote:That just reminded of my childhood GR.

Living in Kucuk Kaymakli, around 7 years old, I stood on the window sill to try and push a wire over the window shutters. How the hell did I know, it was electricity wire. Let me tell you, the electricity would not let me go. I just could not release my hands from the power line, and the only way I was able to because I just slipped off the window sill and landed on my butt. It was on the ground floor. I never till today ever told my mother, as to what happened that day.

Honest GR, I was not trying to steal anyones electricity. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
What a sad, touching, and amazing story!

I am very honored that you shared with us something your mother doesn't know but should! :lol:

I'm sure glad you survived it... :)


GR, the only thing that saved my life that day was GRAVITY, by falling off the window sill, so I was not about to tell my mother and risk my life again from spanking, because I'm sure she must have had told me not to mess around with those wires at some point.

She'll be 81 soon, and if I tell her now, I may still get spanking. :lol:

On a happier note, perhaps with all that electricity that entered me, may explains the reason why women light up like a
"Pinball Machine" when ever they get into bed with me. :lol: :lol: :lol:

(I just stole that line from a movie.....can anyone name the movie???)

:lol: I'll bet it was Bob Hope... sounds like his kind of humor!
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:26 pm

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Kikapu wrote:VP, do me a big favour and stop using the word "disputed land", but if you are going to use it, because you don't want to be truthful and say it is a stolen land, then tell us just how is it "disputed".


As long as the Cypro continues it is perfectly fine to refer to it as "disputed".

Is this a case of the word “disputed” being disputed? :? :lol:
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Postby humanist » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:48 pm

there is no dispute here, one lot of Cypriots have taken another lot of Cypriots land and are refusing to give it back, simple.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:53 pm

humanist wrote:there is no dispute here, one lot of Cypriots have taken another lot of Cypriots land and are refusing to give it back, simple.

I found it funny that you wrote elsewhere about shops in the "TRNC" being the same as shops in the unoccupied territories and it makes me wonder... did you actually travel anywhere while in Cyprus or did you just visit the local deli? :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:09 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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The TRNC has made a decision to distribute disputed land and if a solution comes we will either pay the price in full, part or get off scott free but seeing there is no solution there is no problem. The GCs can claim illegality but if their is no recourse or way of imposing a judgement in the TRNC then there is a stalemate just like we have today.



VP, do me a big favour and stop using the word "disputed land", but if you are going to use it, because you don't want to be truthful and say it is a stolen land, then tell us just how is it "disputed". When the Israelis use the same term in describing Palestinian land, I want to reach into the TV and slap the person who is saying it. You are much luckier being at the end of an Internet computer terminal and I can't see you, and yet I get frustrated with you, for not being honest with yourself, and when you are not being honest with yourself, I find it hard to accept your other points as being honest and truthful.


Isnt it disputed? GC claim its theirs but cant use it due to the current Cyprus problem and will probably not get it back in the long run, their best bet even today is financial compensation, The majority of TCs myself included want GCs to get closure on their property rights but time is not working in their favor and their leaders dont seem to give a fig.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:28 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Isnt it disputed? GC claim its theirs but cant use it due to the current Cyprus problem

You mean due to the illegal presence of the Turkish army. Learn to refer to facts CORRECTLY.

...and will probably not get it back in the long run,

Says your wishful thinking...

...their best bet even today is financial compensation, The majority of TCs myself included want GCs to get closure on their property rights but time is not working in their favor and their leaders dont seem to give a fig.

Your attempt to create a sense of urgency to promote "closures of disputes" is comical as there are ETERNALLY BINDING UN resolutions that destroy your whole DAFT plan.
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Postby humanist » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:10 am

GR am glad I have provided for your entertainment. The clothing stores that I had visited in Paphos, Lefkosia, Larnaca and Lemesos, and thos that i walked past in the occupied area were very similar. As far as the local deli, I hadn't even made it there. Food was always bought by others.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:34 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
The TRNC has made a decision to distribute disputed land and if a solution comes we will either pay the price in full, part or get off scott free but seeing there is no solution there is no problem. The GCs can claim illegality but if their is no recourse or way of imposing a judgement in the TRNC then there is a stalemate just like we have today.



VP, do me a big favour and stop using the word "disputed land", but if you are going to use it, because you don't want to be truthful and say it is a stolen land, then tell us just how is it "disputed". When the Israelis use the same term in describing Palestinian land, I want to reach into the TV and slap the person who is saying it. You are much luckier being at the end of an Internet computer terminal and I can't see you, and yet I get frustrated with you, for not being honest with yourself, and when you are not being honest with yourself, I find it hard to accept your other points as being honest and truthful.


Isnt it disputed? GC claim its theirs but cant use it due to the current Cyprus problem and will probably not get it back in the long run, their best bet even today is financial compensation, The majority of TCs myself included want GCs to get closure on their property rights but time is not working in their favor and their leaders dont seem to give a fig.


Is your home in the "TRNC" disputed as to who the owner is, or is it given, that as a TC, that you are the owner, assuming it is not built on "undisputed" GC land..??

You may have a dispute as to who owns a piece of land when 2 people make a claim for the same property, until one of them produces a legal document that states ownership. What does the other person produce to dispute the official ownership document of the other person....40,000 Turkish Troops to keep the official owner off his land. By making a decision on your own, that the best remedy to solve the dispute is to make a monetary payment , so that under no circumstances these original owner can ever return again. You are trying to deny any GC has ever lived in the are occupied by Turkey, also known as the "TRNC". Is this what you are saying by any chance.?? If so, you are no better than Iranian President making the claim, that there was never a Holocaust by the Nazis against 6 million Jews and others. We do have a political dispute between the GC's and the TC's, but that does not, and will not, dispute who the original owners are, of the land that you call "disputed land".

Sorry, but by using the word "disputed" only makes the TC's look just as guilty as what Israel is doing to the Palestinians. You are in fact encouraging the Israelis to commit crime through their occupation and violation of the Human Rights of the Palestinians. You have become just another "Jewish State" by practising what Israel has done for decades. I'm sure there was a time you had deplored Israels actions, but now you find yourself in their shoes and the size seems to fit perfectly. I hope you are proud of yourself with your actions and interpretations of others misery for the gains of the "TRNC" with your willingness to support and embrace this illegal and deplorable denial of individual rights to their property.

That is an Undisputed Fact.
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