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Ferry bad news for "TRNC"

Postby Jerry » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:28 pm

The Syrian connection has been cut down to one day a week. Since its first sailing this contribution to ending the isloation of TCs has only carried 366 passengers, mainly British and German. Perhaps the TCs are not as isolated as they claim to be.
On a sadder note the captain and first mate of a cargo ship were lost in a storm when their ship sank. They were carrying, amongst other things, containers filled with household goods for British ex-pats in the "TRNC" - it looks the carpetbaggers may have lost their carpets.
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Re: Ferry bad news for "TRNC"

Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:02 pm

Jerry wrote:The Syrian connection has been cut down to one day a week. Since its first sailing this contribution to ending the isloation of TCs has only carried 366 passengers, mainly British and German. Perhaps the TCs are not as isolated as they claim to be.
On a sadder note the captain and first mate of a cargo ship were lost in a storm when their ship sank. They were carrying, amongst other things, containers filled with household goods for British ex-pats in the "TRNC" - it looks the carpetbaggers may have lost their carpets.


This is not surprising . . . last time they set up this illegal service it lasted less than a year. Looks like it's hit the rocks sooner this time :lol:

Sorry for the loss of lives, but once again . . . Kismet (or as DT. says "Poseidon looks after his own!" ).
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Postby utu » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:04 pm

Phoenix,

Personally, I wouldn't start gloating until the service is completely ended. It sounds like economics - rather than politics - is governing the paring back of the ferry service.
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Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:10 pm

utu wrote:Phoenix,

Personally, I wouldn't start gloating until the service is completely ended. It sounds like economics - rather than politics - is governing the paring back of the ferry service.


The pseudo "TRNC" not so good at investments in services then :lol:

Just one less illegality that you perpetrate upon my country, as far as I am concerned.
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Postby utu » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:15 pm

phoenix wrote: Just one less illegality that you perpetrate upon my country, as far as I am concerned.


Me? What 'illegality' have I perpetrated? All I'm trying to do is clarify things. That's what forums are for, are they not? Then again, reading some of your posts about ridding Cyprus of every Turk does not sound like the opinions of a rational person either.
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Postby phoenix » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:52 pm

utu wrote:
phoenix wrote: Just one less illegality that you perpetrate upon my country, as far as I am concerned.


Me? What 'illegality' have I perpetrated? All I'm trying to do is clarify things. That's what forums are for, are they not? Then again, reading some of your posts about ridding Cyprus of every Turk does not sound like the opinions of a rational person either.


The collective "you" was for ALL those who support the illegal "TRNC" and its activities . . . and from YOUR posts that pretty much includes you too!

Before you pass judgement on my rationality, I would examine your motives . . . since you are not Turkish . . . for supporting them as you do, when I, who was born on Cyprus, decide that I want the Turkish troops and Turkish settlers to return to Turkey (or further afield).

What is your vested interest in "clarifying" forum posts in favour of Turks, for my benefit ?
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:50 pm

Is fate sending a hint that maybe they should leave the sea to those that know it?
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Postby utu » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:15 pm

phoenix wrote:The collective "you" was for ALL those who support the illegal "TRNC" and its activities . . . and from YOUR posts that pretty much includes you too!

Before you pass judgement on my rationality, I would examine your motives . . . since you are not Turkish . . . for supporting them as you do, when I, who was born on Cyprus, decide that I want the Turkish troops and Turkish settlers to return to Turkey (or further afield).

What is your vested interest in "clarifying" forum posts in favour of Turks, for my benefit ?


I'm trying to find a balance. Regardless of what you beleive, returning to the status quo ante of 1960 is not possible. There is too much mistrust. So - if your solution of denuding Cyprus of every person of Turkish descent is not taken up - what other solution is there? Federalism seems to be the only answer. I think that I'm in a better position to offer an opinion because I'm neither Greek, Cypriot, or Turkish. That way, my observations are not tainted by nationlist bias.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:56 pm

utu wrote:I'm trying to find a balance. Regardless of what you beleive, returning to the status quo ante of 1960 is not possible. There is too much mistrust. So - if your solution of denuding Cyprus of every person of Turkish descent is not taken up - what other solution is there? Federalism seems to be the only answer. I think that I'm in a better position to offer an opinion because I'm neither Greek, Cypriot, or Turkish. That way, my observations are not tainted by nationlist bias.

It’s time you cut the charade Utu. Nobody residing in British Columbia would bother defending the “TRNC” at every opportunity, or even knowing about it so much unless they were Turkish Cypriot.
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Postby utu » Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
It’s time you cut the charade Utu. Nobody residing in British Columbia would bother defending the “TRNC” at every opportunity, or even knowing about it so much unless they were Turkish Cypriot.


And what charade is that? And for your information, I'm not so much 'defending' one side as trying to point out some of the absurdities in what you and other people are saying. You are influenced by your hatred of the Turkish presence, and thus you see any opinion not as one-sided as yours as being 'anti-Cypriot'.

I will make this point clear: Federation is - I believe - the preferred solution for Cyprus. Independence for the north is not realistic, and neither is a return to a unitary state. Certainly annexation is out. So I guess that makes me a pragmatist. Would that be a dirty word in your dictionary, GR?
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