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Ferry bad news for "TRNC"

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Postby Nikitas » Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:18 pm

Is English also an official language in Cyprus? I recall court minutes being kept in English even in cases involving two Greek Cypriot parties.

The other alternative is to teach understanding, not speaking, the other's language. Understanding is much faster and easier to learn than speaking. This has been tried (succesfully) before in multinational projects.
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Postby utu » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:58 pm

humanist wrote:I would like to hear from you, your views on Qubec gaining independence from the rest of canada. that might assist me to understand where you come from.


Quebec has always been a headache to the Anglophones of Canada. Their inistance of a 'distinct society' has made all other provinces bi-lingual (and of course, I had my share of French instruction in school, yet I prefer to speak English), yet Quebec actively discourages English usage. It was things like this that torpedoed the Meech Lake Accord. That said, it is unlikely that Quebec would secede as there are enough non-Francophone residents of that province whose voting power - with that of the large minority of Francophones who wish to remain in Canada - would assure a 'no' majority for any secession referendum. Cie la vie.
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Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:27 pm

observer wrote:Nikitas

Settlers. Colonists. Economic migrants. Call them what you will, they are here and unlikley to go away. The same problem in various ways faces the whole of the EU and other economically developed countries.

The point that I was making is that the Turkish govenment has not 'sent them'. They have come of their own free will, just as Sri Lankans (and others) have come to Southern Cyprus to improve their economic status. We are now getting Sri Lankan economic migrants too, which is an indication that the economic conditions in the North are improving.

The solution? GC politicians need to come quickly to their senses and reach an agreement that the world sees as fair and reasonable, which will not be the removal of all Turks, the restoration of all property, and Cyprus returning to pre-1974, pre-1963, or any other mythical time in the past when we were all much younger and the world much rosier.


No they did not mate !! At the time when the indigenous T/Cs were leaving in droves for a better life in other countries , you actually believe that these misfortunate individuals decided one day that Cyprus is where they want to be !!Nonsense , ans as Nikita's pointed out your illogical and absurd analogy with Sri Lankans is indicative of how remote your thinking is from reality.The settlers were actively encouraged to come to Cyprus , their passage FREE in order that the demographics are altered. Turkeys ambition is not to create a Cypriot Turkish State but to absorb that part of Cyprus and assimilate the T/Cs , or rather the extinction of the T/Cs .
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:39 pm

utu wrote:Quebec has always been a headache to the Anglophones of Canada. Their inistance of a 'distinct society' has made all other provinces bi-lingual (and of course, I had my share of French instruction in school, yet I prefer to speak English), yet Quebec actively discourages English usage. It was things like this that torpedoed the Meech Lake Accord. That said, it is unlikely that Quebec would secede as there are enough non-Francophone residents of that province whose voting power - with that of the large minority of Francophones who wish to remain in Canada - would assure a 'no' majority for any secession referendum. Cie la vie.


So for how many years have you been living there Utu?
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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:10 pm

utu wrote:
humanist wrote:I would like to hear from you, your views on Qubec gaining independence from the rest of canada. that might assist me to understand where you come from.


Quebec has always been a headache to the Anglophones of Canada. Their inistance of a 'distinct society' has made all other provinces bi-lingual (and of course, I had my share of French instruction in school, yet I prefer to speak English), yet Quebec actively discourages English usage. It was things like this that torpedoed the Meech Lake Accord. That said, it is unlikely that Quebec would secede as there are enough non-Francophone residents of that province whose voting power - with that of the large minority of Francophones who wish to remain in Canada - would assure a 'no' majority for any secession referendum. Cie la vie.

Quebec sucks!!!!! The people tend to be rude to you when you communicate to them in English. If Quebec ever sucedes they will suffer economicly. Those that belive in the seperation are only looking at short term gains.
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Postby humanist » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:16 pm

I believe that Quebec ought to gain its independence so that the French Canadians can have role to determine their rights and their future. And those Anglophones perhaps can choose to move to toher parts of Canada. Cie la vie
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Postby Jerry » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:15 am

We may have strayed off topic but the silence of the usual contributors from the north is deafening, do they have anything useful to say about the ferry, the loss of life on the freighter or indeed the deliberate vindictive colonisation of the north?
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Re: Ferry bad news for "TRNC"

Postby oranos64 » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:33 am

Jerry wrote:The Syrian connection has been cut down to one day a week. Since its first sailing this contribution to ending the isloation of TCs has only carried 366 passengers, mainly British and German. Perhaps the TCs are not as isolated as they claim to be.
On a sadder note the captain and first mate of a cargo ship were lost in a storm when their ship sank. They were carrying, amongst other things, containers filled with household goods for British ex-pats in the "TRNC" - it looks the carpetbaggers may have lost their carpets.



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Postby Nikitas » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:50 pm

Any of you who have doubts about the true nature of the settler problem should remember the statement made by Erdoghan a few days after becoming prime minister:

"What if people leave, we have more people to put there".

That statement puts an end to any speculation about the true nature of the settler problem. All must remember that according to the UN Charter the colonization of territory gained by military means is illegal.

Note also that there were no incentives given to Turkish Cypriots of the diaspora to come back, nor any provided for Cypriots to stay. In short Turkish Cypriots count for nothing. They are the losers in all this and soon they will be a minority in norther Cyprus.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:40 pm

Nikitas wrote:Any of you who have doubts about the true nature of the settler problem should remember the statement made by Erdoghan a few days after becoming prime minister:

"What if people leave, we have more people to put there".

That statement puts an end to any speculation about the true nature of the settler problem. All must remember that according to the UN Charter the colonization of territory gained by military means is illegal.

Note also that there were no incentives given to Turkish Cypriots of the diaspora to come back, nor any provided for Cypriots to stay. In short Turkish Cypriots count for nothing. They are the losers in all this and soon they will be a minority in norther Cyprus.


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