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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:28 am

humanist wrote:Karma ........ Sooooooooo good to see you back on the forum you are a real gem and I miss you. But I am dancing in my lounge room as am listening to the song.

OH my friend Birk and Kafenes what would I give to re-create that beautiful special night at the Elysium Hotel .... Paphos.

Ji actually still coments on the day at the village. He actually confessed afterwards, how emotional he got, and asked the question of how you would have felt after such a long time.

Zito to friendship.


Hello,dear Andreas. That was a special night,wasnt it?
We just have to work hard to recreate it, mate. Next time the Precious One should be there too. :wink: I hope Jim is reading this thread. I am coming to our day in Istinjo very soon...Cheers for now.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:45 am

Istinjo(Kios on most Cyprus maps,Istinco in Turkish) was a little sleepy village of about 150 people,hanging onto the skirts of the Paphos Forest,a little to the north -east of Polis. Together with Melandra,Sarama and Zaharga they formed probably the most remote TC settlement in Paphos...

When I was born Istinjo had no electricity or running water. And the road leading to it was little more than a goat track. things have not changed much in 56 years,though the road now is much improved. But all this didn't matter to me. For us who lived there Istinjo was heaven on earth. The little corner of the world which gave us life and sustained us emotionally and physically.It became particularly important for my sense of self and belonging because,due to my father's job,we had to leave it when I was 4-years old.But we kept coming back,at least once every year,during school holidays,and stayed for 2-3 months...

Istinjo was my mother's native village. Mother came from a big,influential family. She had 8 siblings,4 boys and 4 girls. My grandpa,her father, was probably the biggest landowner in this cluster of TC villages. He was also the shopkeeper,the postman,and for most of his productive years,the Mukhtar as well. Born in the 1880s he came from a well-to-do family which fell on hard times during WW1...He was the only member of his extended family to finish high school in Paphos town and become a school teacher. His Greek was at least as good as his Turkish,and he could read and write in it as well.His teaching career was cut short after an unfortunate and tragic incident. In his second year as teacher,in the village of Erenkoy (Koccina in the Dillirga region,which was to become famous much later after the events of 63/64, as a major battleground between Cypriots of different ethnic backgrounds),he hit one of his students hard on the head. The boy died withing days. Grandpa was lucky to escape prison. The boy's parents did not press charges. Those were different times where children's lives were cheap,and teachers could get away with murder even...

So at 20-years old and newly married Grandpa found himself unemployed and unemployable. Together with his brother-in-law he started buying and selling stock like sheep,goats,cows,donkeys etc...Mother talks about a time when Grandpa and Uncle Ismail would walk barefeet to markets as far away as Paphos town to by their stock. Grandma and Uncle Ismail were from Hulu (Choulou),a village nearer to Kasaba (Paphos town) itself.
Uncle Ismail was to become rich himself and one of the TC casualties of the village of Hulu in the 1963/64 incidents. At 85 he was too old and sick to run away from the mixed village when troubles broke out. So he was killed by some opportunistic criminals who happened to be of GC background,because he refused to tell them where his money was hidden...

By the time I was born Grandpa was well and truly established as one of the most powerful individuals in his region. He was an unashamed Monarchist. I still clearly remember the portraits of a young Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip hanging prominently in his shop. Grandpa's key to success was simple.He would buy from anyone and sell to anyone anything people wanted and needed. His business assiciates included prominet GCs in the region. Like Savvas Stroudi from Liso(Lysos) and Hadji Kyriyacou from Filusa.(I am transliterating the GC names now from Mother's pronunciation!)But the man most responsible for Grandpa's rise and rise in business was Mr Pavlos Kivriyodi of Paphos town,who acted as his financier. They were apparently so close and trusted each other so much that they never had written contracts or agreements between them.
Hundreds or thousands of pounds would change hands on the strength of a handshake. Their word was their honour,and they apparently never let each other down. On his deathbed,the last person Mr Kivriyodi wanted to see was Grandpa,who risked life and limb to go and see his old friend in Paphos at the height of ethnic violence...


(to be continued...)
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:17 am

kafenes wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kafenes wrote:Thanks Bir. And next time you can join in with the toumberlek. :)



No Hiding Place Kafenes.
Now I know where you ply your trade. Me and my wife will make a bee line to listen to you. :lol:


Actually Deniz, Bir got it slightly wrong. It is the Astria bar at the Elysium Hotel. I will be there till the 31st December (that's when my contract ends) and I will start again March 3rd at the Paphos Amathus Beach Hotel.
You and your wife are most welcome to be my guests.



In that case its proof that BK did enjoy himself there. I sincerely hope he wasnt drivin,g. :lol: :lol:

Its great indeed to see three different cultures united on the island of love. Lets hope many others will follow in your footsteps. :wink:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:23 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:Istinjo(Kios on most Cyprus maps,Istinco in Turkish) was a little sleepy village of about 150 people,hanging onto the skirts of the Paphos Forest,a little to the north -east of Polis. Together with Melandra,Sarama and Zaharga they formed probably the most remote TC settlement in Paphos...

When I was born Istinjo had no electricity or running water. And the road leading to it was little more than a goat track. things have not changed much in 56 years,though the road now is much improved. But all this didn't matter to me. For us who lived there Istinjo was heaven on earth. The little corner of the world which gave us life and sustained us emotionally and physically.It became particularly important for my sense of self and belonging because,due to my father's job,we had to leave it when I was 4-years old.But we kept coming back,at least once every year,during school holidays,and stayed for 2-3 months...

Istinjo was my mother's native village. Mother came from a big,influential family. She had 8 siblings,4 boys and 4 girls. My grandpa,her father, was probably the biggest landowner in this cluster of TC villages. He was also the shopkeeper,the postman,and for most of his productive years,the Mukhtar as well. Born in the 1880s he came from a well-to-do family which fell on hard times during WW1...He was the only member of his extended family to finish high school in Paphos town and become a school teacher. His Greek was at least as good as his Turkish,and he could read and write in it as well.His teaching career was cut short after an unfortunate and tragic incident. In his second year as teacher,in the village of Erenkoy (Koccina in the Dillirga region,which was to become famous much later after the events of 63/64, as a major battleground between Cypriots of different ethnic backgrounds),he hit one of his students hard on the head. The boy died withing days. Grandpa was lucky to escape prison. The boy's parents did not press charges. Those were different times where children's lives were cheap,and teachers could get away with murder even...

So at 20-years old and newly married Grandpa found himself unemployed and unemployable. Together with his brother-in-law he started buying and selling stock like sheep,goats,cows,donkeys etc...Mother talks about a time when Grandpa and Uncle Ismail would walk barefeet to markets as far away as Paphos town to by their stock. Grandma and Uncle Ismail were from Hulu (Choulou),a village nearer to Kasaba (Paphos town) itself.
Uncle Ismail was to become rich himself and one of the TC casualties of the village of Hulu in the 1963/64 incidents. At 85 he was too old and sick to run away from the mixed village when troubles broke out. So he was killed by some opportunistic criminals who happened to be of GC background,because he refused to tell them where his money was hidden...

By the time I was born Grandpa was well and truly established as one of the most powerful individuals in his region. He was an unashamed Monarchist. I still clearly remember the portraits of a young Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip hanging prominently in his shop. Grandpa's key to success was simple.He would buy from anyone and sell to anyone anything people wanted and needed. His business assiciates included prominet GCs in the region. Like Savvas Stroudi from Liso(Lysos) and Hadji Kyriyacou from Filusa.(I am transliterating the GC names now from Mother's pronunciation!)But the man most responsible for Grandpa's rise and rise in business was Mr Pavlos Kivriyodi of Paphos town,who acted as his financier. They were apparently so close and trusted each other so much that they never had written contracts or agreements between them.
Hundreds or thousands of pounds would change hands on the strength of a handshake. Their word was their honour,and they apparently never let each other down. On his deathbed,the last person Mr Kivriyodi wanted to see was Grandpa,who risked life and limb to go and see his old friend in Paphos at the height of ethnic violence...


(to be continued...)


For someone who could not read or write Grandma was a remarkable woman. She could run the large household and Grandpa's shop with her eyes closed. She had devised her own way of keeping tracks of who bought what and how much they owed. She hardly ever made a mistake.
Feeding the multitude of workers out in the fields was also her duty which she carried out with military precision.And she had sadistic tendencies.
After raising 9 of her own children she was a bit short on patience when it came to her grandchildren. She had her own way of dealing with us if we misbehaved.Her favourite method of punishment was burning us with a match while we were least expecting it. Pinching and Chinese burns were her next preferred methods,followed by pulling our ears...

But she often suffered herself in Grandpa's hands.
I have our own William Tell story to tell you. Once upon a time a lot of things were sold by travelling salespeople who often went around on donkeys.On one such ocassion some GCs came to Istinjo to sell some oranges. They went to the coffee shop and tried to sell their goods to the menfolk. Seeing that the oranges were not of usual quality,Grandpa refused to buy any.
The men laughed saying," No worries,we'll send our wives tomorrow to sell them to your wives..."
Grandpa was most annoyed. When he got back home he warned Grandma not to buy any oranges if people came to the door the next day.
The GC men knew what they were talking about. Sure enough when the GC women arrived the next morning Grandma did not have the "face" to refuse. He bought a basket full and hid them in the kitchen where Grandpa was sure to never set foot. And she instructed her brood not to say anything to their father.All kept their mouths shut except one of the boys,Uncle Kemal,who couldnt wait to break the news when Grandpa came home for lunch...


"Anne has bought some oranges today,Baba,"he declared mischievously."Would you like one for your lunch???"
"What an excellent idea," spat Grandpa looking at an ashen Grandma.
"Make sure you bring them all!"
When Grandma appeared with the basket full of oranges,he lead her outside and lined her up against the wall.Then standing at 10 paces he proceeded to throw the oranges one by one at his hapless wife who did her best to protect herself.Most of the oranges missed their target and smashed against the wall.He was no doubt aiming more to miss than to hit. Then he stormed off without eating his usual diet of fried eggs and hellim (halloumi). Without saying a word Grandma walked into the kitchen and came back with a jar of hot chilli flakes. She sprinkled a couple of handfuls on Gradpa's now abandoned lunch and made Uncle Kemal eat it all...

Grandma's Turkish was almost non-existent. Cypriot Greek with a strong Paphian flavour flew naturally at our house in Istinjo. To the frustration of us,kids,who had little idea of what was said. Later on when the TMT forbid people to speak Greek,threatening to fine anyone 20 shillings for each word uttered,conversation still took place in Greek but this time in whispers. The sight and sound of grownups whispering to each other in Greek,a language we didnt understand was bizarre to say the least. The realisation that they were afraid of letting us know they spoke in Greek made their behaviour even more peculiar. For we,kids, had our own instructions from the TMT to dob in anyone in the family who spoke Greek at home.But we all knew the story of the flying oranges,and Uncle Kemal's hotchilli lunch. Our fear of Grandma was bigger than any enticement from the TMT. Nobody was ever fined for speaking Greek in our grandparents' house in Istinjo...

(to be continued...)
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:41 pm

Birkibrisli wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:Istinjo(Kios on most Cyprus maps,Istinco in Turkish) was a little sleepy village of about 150 people,hanging onto the skirts of the Paphos Forest,a little to the north -east of Polis. Together with Melandra,Sarama and Zaharga they formed probably the most remote TC settlement in Paphos...

When I was born Istinjo had no electricity or running water. And the road leading to it was little more than a goat track. things have not changed much in 56 years,though the road now is much improved. But all this didn't matter to me. For us who lived there Istinjo was heaven on earth. The little corner of the world which gave us life and sustained us emotionally and physically.It became particularly important for my sense of self and belonging because,due to my father's job,we had to leave it when I was 4-years old.But we kept coming back,at least once every year,during school holidays,and stayed for 2-3 months...

Istinjo was my mother's native village. Mother came from a big,influential family. She had 8 siblings,4 boys and 4 girls. My grandpa,her father, was probably the biggest landowner in this cluster of TC villages. He was also the shopkeeper,the postman,and for most of his productive years,the Mukhtar as well. Born in the 1880s he came from a well-to-do family which fell on hard times during WW1...He was the only member of his extended family to finish high school in Paphos town and become a school teacher. His Greek was at least as good as his Turkish,and he could read and write in it as well.His teaching career was cut short after an unfortunate and tragic incident. In his second year as teacher,in the village of Erenkoy (Koccina in the Dillirga region,which was to become famous much later after the events of 63/64, as a major battleground between Cypriots of different ethnic backgrounds),he hit one of his students hard on the head. The boy died withing days. Grandpa was lucky to escape prison. The boy's parents did not press charges. Those were different times where children's lives were cheap,and teachers could get away with murder even...

So at 20-years old and newly married Grandpa found himself unemployed and unemployable. Together with his brother-in-law he started buying and selling stock like sheep,goats,cows,donkeys etc...Mother talks about a time when Grandpa and Uncle Ismail would walk barefeet to markets as far away as Paphos town to by their stock. Grandma and Uncle Ismail were from Hulu (Choulou),a village nearer to Kasaba (Paphos town) itself.
Uncle Ismail was to become rich himself and one of the TC casualties of the village of Hulu in the 1963/64 incidents. At 85 he was too old and sick to run away from the mixed village when troubles broke out. So he was killed by some opportunistic criminals who happened to be of GC background,because he refused to tell them where his money was hidden...

By the time I was born Grandpa was well and truly established as one of the most powerful individuals in his region. He was an unashamed Monarchist. I still clearly remember the portraits of a young Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip hanging prominently in his shop. Grandpa's key to success was simple.He would buy from anyone and sell to anyone anything people wanted and needed. His business assiciates included prominet GCs in the region. Like Savvas Stroudi from Liso(Lysos) and Hadji Kyriyacou from Filusa.(I am transliterating the GC names now from Mother's pronunciation!)But the man most responsible for Grandpa's rise and rise in business was Mr Pavlos Kivriyodi of Paphos town,who acted as his financier. They were apparently so close and trusted each other so much that they never had written contracts or agreements between them.
Hundreds or thousands of pounds would change hands on the strength of a handshake. Their word was their honour,and they apparently never let each other down. On his deathbed,the last person Mr Kivriyodi wanted to see was Grandpa,who risked life and limb to go and see his old friend in Paphos at the height of ethnic violence...


(to be continued...)


For someone who could not read or write Grandma was a remarkable woman. She could run the large household and Grandpa's shop with her eyes closed. She had devised her own way of keeping tracks of who bought what and how much they owed. She hardly ever made a mistake.
Feeding the multitude of workers out in the fields was also her duty which she carried out with military precision.And she had sadistic tendencies.
After raising 9 of her own children she was a bit short on patience when it came to her grandchildren. She had her own way of dealing with us if we misbehaved.Her favourite method of punishment was burning us with a match while we were least expecting it. Pinching and Chinese burns were her next preferred methods,followed by pulling our ears...

But she often suffered herself in Grandpa's hands.
I have our own William Tell story to tell you. Once upon a time a lot of things were sold by travelling salespeople who often went around on donkeys.On one such ocassion some GCs came to Istinjo to sell some oranges. They went to the coffee shop and tried to sell their goods to the menfolk. Seeing that the oranges were not of usual quality,Grandpa refused to buy any.
The men laughed saying," No worries,we'll send our wives tomorrow to sell them to your wives..."
Grandpa was most annoyed. When he got back home he warned Grandma not to buy any oranges if people came to the door the next day.
The GC men knew what they were talking about. Sure enough when the GC women arrived the next morning Grandma did not have the "face" to refuse. He bought a basket full and hid them in the kitchen where Grandpa was sure to never set foot. And she instructed her brood not to say anything to their father.All kept their mouths shut except one of the boys,Uncle Kemal,who couldnt wait to break the news when Grandpa came home for lunch...


"Anne has bought some oranges today,Baba,"he declared mischievously."Would you like one for your lunch???"
"What an excellent idea," spat Grandpa looking at an ashen Grandma.
"Make sure you bring them all!"
When Grandma appeared with the basket full of oranges,he lead her outside and lined her up against the wall.Then standing at 10 paces he proceeded to throw the oranges one by one at his hapless wife who did her best to protect herself.Most of the oranges missed their target and smashed against the wall.He was no doubt aiming more to miss than to hit. Then he stormed off without eating his usual diet of fried eggs and hellim (halloumi). Without saying a word Grandma walked into the kitchen and came back with a jar of hot chilli flakes. She sprinkled a couple of handfuls on Gradpa's now abandoned lunch and made Uncle Kemal eat it all...

Grandma's Turkish was almost non-existent. Cypriot Greek with a strong Paphian flavour flew naturally at our house in Istinjo. To the frustration of us,kids,who had little idea of what was said. Later on when the TMT forbid people to speak Greek,threatening to fine anyone 20 shillings for each word uttered,conversation still took place in Greek but this time in whispers. The sight and sound of grownups whispering to each other in Greek,a language we didnt understand was bizarre to say the least. The realisation that they were afraid of letting us know they spoke in Greek made their behaviour even more peculiar. For we,kids, had our own instructions from the TMT to dob in anyone in the family who spoke Greek at home.But we all knew the story of the flying oranges,and Uncle Kemal's hotchilli lunch. Our fear of Grandma was bigger than any enticement from the TMT. Nobody was ever fined for speaking Greek in our grandparents' house in Istinjo...

(to be continued...)



I think this instalment is rather funny.(the William Tell bit). I hope theres more like that. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:19 pm

Reading this puts me between in a strange place, between pleasure and discomfort. It drags up shadows from the past, when Cyprus was a substistence society and people lived so close to the land. It was a strange time of plenty, in some ways, and poverty in others. It is easy to recall the fun parts, but one friend recently put it bluntly when he said about those times: "we were dirt poor, that's how it was". We really were, even the rich were poor and that was true for all of us regardless of ehnic origin or religion. Cyprus was a forgotten place and you can see this in Bir's account.

Thanks again Bir. You make the rest of us here think of what it takes to be a real Cypriot.
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Postby humanist » Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:43 pm

and Birk is certainly one of those rare, real Cypriots ...... thanks mate a pleasure to know you;)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:42 pm

Thank you Deniz,Nikitas,humanist...
The pleasure was all mine,mate..
Lets catch up when the X'mas madness is over,Andreas...
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Postby humanist » Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:49 pm

sure give me a call....
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:04 pm

On a bright and sunny October day,my second day in Cyprus,I got into my TCB's car and headed for Istinjo,for the first time in 40 years. Andreas (humanist) and his mate Jim followed in another car driven by Kafenes.The irony did not escape me. 38 years after I left Cyprus,and 33 years after my family was forced to leave the place they called home for hundreds of years,I was returning accompanied by 2 Cypriots of GC background,One of Armenian background,and a Canadian of British background,all of who I had met yesterday for the first time...Such is life ,my friends.And such is the magic of the internet forum called the Cyprus-Forum...If anyone had read my coffee cup 3 years ago and told me this would happen I'd have thought it most fanciful...

For as long as I remember Istinjo was served by two public buses.
One was owned by Rauf Usta,the senior of the two drivers. The other was owned by Kachak Ali or Ali,the Deserter...Ali deserved his Deserter tag simply because he had deserted from the British Army in WWII. The buses left for and from Nicosia on alternate days...Mother preferred Rauf usta, because he was a good and reliable driver. He also had good manners. While Kachak Ali was a bit of a lad,and had an eye for the ladies...

The trip to and from Nicosia took over 12 hours. We'd start at 6am,still half asleep,and reach Istinjo often after 7pm. Along the way we passed through Larnaca,Limassol,and Paphos towns plus every other village in between as required by the passengers and cargo demands..Mother was always very well prepared. We had food and drinks and books and games to keep us occupied. I mostly read or spend long hours looking out the window taking in the sights of cliff hanging vineyards,mountain goats,olive and carob groves,and the pine covered mountains...

On arrival we could hardly wait to get out of the bus. After the obligatory handkissing and greeting our grandparents,we would rush to the chicken coop at the end of the backyard. Then out the front door and to Aunty's house which stood at the other end of the plum orchard surrounded by mandarin and pomegranate trees. And beyond that to the stables to greet our favorite donkeys,goats and sheep... We would sometimes get unpleasantly surprised. Someone's favourite animal was bound to be missing,having been sold or consumed in our absence...After grieving for the whole of 5 minutes,we'd pick another goat or sheep or chook to be our favourite for the holidays...

But the faithful wallnut tree was always there,waiting for us with open arms,in the middle of the orange and apple orchard. We'd quickly climb up to find the carving marks we'd made over the years...Here was a heart with an arrow through it with my name and the name of my GC sweetheart...There the name of one of our cousins who was my sister's forbidden childhood sweetheart...
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