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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:35 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


You are right Kikapu is a genuine and true reflection of the GC viewpoint, no one is disputing this fact but he is on the other side of the fence to us TCs which makes him one of you, on your team not ours, comprendo?.

Isnt the administration in the south GC? whats so made up about that?


Administration in the south is called Government of Cyprus. Look at the passports of a few of your friends it clearly says Republic of Cyprus.


Since when has your administration not been GC? Your country is also GC no difference, its a country for GCs run by GCs what not to understand?
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Postby T_C » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:38 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


It's not about truth or trying to stop him from expressing his views Pyro, if he can ignore Piratis while not agreeing with him, can't he do the same to VP without resorting to name calling and talking about "pig farms" and "prostitutes"? If he can do that then why doesn't he do the same to the people on the other side who are supposedly HIS OWN people?

It makes no sense what so ever when he's CONSTANTLY attacking one side, while COMPLETELY ignoring the hardliner views on the other side. And to top it off he tells us he's a TC, but he cannot possibly be a TC when NOT ONCE has he responded to ANYTHING the hardliners put forth on your side.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:49 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


You are right Kikapu is a genuine and true reflection of the GC viewpoint, no one is disputing this fact but he is on the other side of the fence to us TCs which makes him one of you, on your team not ours, comprendo?.

Isnt the administration in the south GC? whats so made up about that?


Administration in the south is called Government of Cyprus. Look at the passports of a few of your friends it clearly says Republic of Cyprus.


Since when has your administration not been GC? Your country is also GC no difference, its a country for GCs run by GCs what not to understand?


The only ones who say so is you and your mama Turka which simply proves the report originates from ome Turkish drawers EXACTLY LIKE YOUR EYE OPENER kikapu has said.

Capich Virgin Princess?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:20 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


It's not about truth or trying to stop him from expressing his views Pyro, if he can ignore Piratis while not agreeing with him, can't he do the same to VP without resorting to name calling and talking about "pig farms" and "prostitutes"? If he can do that then why doesn't he do the same to the people on the other side who are supposedly HIS OWN people?

It makes no sense what so ever when he's CONSTANTLY attacking one side, while COMPLETELY ignoring the hardliner views on the other side. And to top it off he tells us he's a TC, but he cannot possibly be a TC when NOT ONCE has he responded to ANYTHING the hardliners put forth on your side.


Believe me I know TCs LIVING IN CYPRUS who are much more than what Kikapu seems to be to you. In this forum you have to understand that people CHOOSE what line they want to follow. Kikapu chose a specific line, Birkibrisli chose another, Bananiot another, I myself try to be impartial but very rarely speak of the GC wrong-doings, although i did a few times. Why shoyl EVERYBODY follow the line of defending his own ethnic side at all costs? What if he has hidden proofs that his own side was the one that really damaged his life? Has it ever pass through your mind?

The "pig farm" comes from Orwels book "the animal farm". The pigs were the clever ones who manipulated the rest of the easy believers with lots of propaganda and lies. This describes the situation in which the TCs are from the 60s until today. Jesus it took you 40+ years to realize what Denktash was doing to his own people. Btw the pig farm was written to describe how people were manipulated in the USSR. The same way the TC people were and still are manipulated. The term imho is very successful, nd it should be another EYE OPENER for you. But you only see it as an inlt concentrating on the "pig" word....

The prostitute term is yet another successful term. You know damn well you are selling yourselves to Turkey. Every TC I met knows it, you know it personally too T-C. In fact one of the main reason the TCs want a solution is to get rid of Turkey and her suppressive army here. How many robberies how many illegalities by her soldiers and her settlers can go unpunished as if they are the owners of this iland T-C. Yes the term might once again be insulting to you but it is the truth. Kick the man from all 9 villages then.

On a side note: Do you think we the GCs need a TC to defend our case? Do you think if Kikapu was not in the forum you would be much better off? Absolutely not.
Do you know what I like about Kikapu? The fact that he can say things in a way you can understand it perfectly.

Do you remember when Kikapu was telling VP that no way you are one of my own people because I do know my people and you are not one of them? Has it ever occured to you that the ones who today prevail among the TCs are the thieves and robberers which puzzle not only the TCs of diaspora but the GCs as well? The ones who prevail today my friend among the TCs ARE NOT THE PROUD AND HONEST TCs we used to know.
They are the scum. And there is nothing wrong in hearing from kikapu that todays situation in the occupied is similar to the animal farm of George Orwell's novel.

If he is guilty for telling you the truth then ex-communicate him. Make him Swiss. :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:09 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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DT. wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


You are right Kikapu is a genuine and true reflection of the GC viewpoint, no one is disputing this fact but he is on the other side of the fence to us TCs which makes him one of you, on your team not ours, comprendo?.

Isnt the administration in the south GC? whats so made up about that?


Administration in the south is called Government of Cyprus. Look at the passports of a few of your friends it clearly says Republic of Cyprus.


Since when has your administration not been GC? Your country is also GC no difference, its a country for GCs run by GCs what not to understand?


The only ones who say so is you and your mama Turka which simply proves the report originates from ome Turkish drawers EXACTLY LIKE YOUR EYE OPENER kikapu has said.

Capich Virgin Princess?


Another expert at trying to divert the debate from the questions asked, why dont you try a yes or no answer for a change?

Is the administration in the south GC?

Is the "RoC" run by GC?

Are the majority of people in the south GCs?

Please try real hard to answer because I know you may find these questions will tax your brain.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:15 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


It's not about truth or trying to stop him from expressing his views Pyro, if he can ignore Piratis while not agreeing with him, can't he do the same to VP without resorting to name calling and talking about "pig farms" and "prostitutes"? If he can do that then why doesn't he do the same to the people on the other side who are supposedly HIS OWN people?

It makes no sense what so ever when he's CONSTANTLY attacking one side, while COMPLETELY ignoring the hardliner views on the other side. And to top it off he tells us he's a TC, but he cannot possibly be a TC when NOT ONCE has he responded to ANYTHING the hardliners put forth on your side.


Believe me I know TCs LIVING IN CYPRUS who are much more than what Kikapu seems to be to you. In this forum you have to understand that people CHOOSE what line they want to follow. Kikapu chose a specific line, Birkibrisli chose another, Bananiot another, I myself try to be impartial but very rarely speak of the GC wrong-doings, although i did a few times. Why shoyl EVERYBODY follow the line of defending his own ethnic side at all costs? What if he has hidden proofs that his own side was the one that really damaged his life? Has it ever pass through your mind?

The "pig farm" comes from Orwels book "the animal farm". The pigs were the clever ones who manipulated the rest of the easy believers with lots of propaganda and lies. This describes the situation in which the TCs are from the 60s until today. Jesus it took you 40+ years to realize what Denktash was doing to his own people. Btw the pig farm was written to describe how people were manipulated in the USSR. The same way the TC people were and still are manipulated. The term imho is very successful, nd it should be another EYE OPENER for you. But you only see it as an inlt concentrating on the "pig" word....

The prostitute term is yet another successful term. You know damn well you are selling yourselves to Turkey. Every TC I met knows it, you know it personally too T-C. In fact one of the main reason the TCs want a solution is to get rid of Turkey and her suppressive army here. How many robberies how many illegalities by her soldiers and her settlers can go unpunished as if they are the owners of this iland T-C. Yes the term might once again be insulting to you but it is the truth. Kick the man from all 9 villages then.

On a side note: Do you think we the GCs need a TC to defend our case? Do you think if Kikapu was not in the forum you would be much better off? Absolutely not.
Do you know what I like about Kikapu? The fact that he can say things in a way you can understand it perfectly.

Do you remember when Kikapu was telling VP that no way you are one of my own people because I do know my people and you are not one of them? Has it ever occured to you that the ones who today prevail among the TCs are the thieves and robberers which puzzle not only the TCs of diaspora but the GCs as well? The ones who prevail today my friend among the TCs ARE NOT THE PROUD AND HONEST TCs we used to know.
They are the scum. And there is nothing wrong in hearing from kikapu that todays situation in the occupied is similar to the animal farm of George Orwell's novel.

If he is guilty for telling you the truth then ex-communicate him. Make him Swiss. :wink:


You can defend this individual all you wish as he is truly one of your own and will never be considered a TC, we disown him. Not once has he defended the smallest point in favor of GCs, not once has he spoken out against GC verbal abuse against TCs on the forum in fact he is one of the worst offenders and constantly has to use belittling scarcasm to lower the quality of posts and avoid answering questions when challenged about his lies. This says more about his own character or lack of it than anything else, he does more damage than good and it better off never returning to island, so he should not try to tell those of us who live here how to live our lives.
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Postby growuptcs » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:56 pm

Viewpoint, we're all convinced that your a racist to anyone that doesn't agree with your perception about the GC's, or anyone that stands by the rule of law as a solution to Cyprus. Imaginary fears should of worn off by now, but why are you amplifying them when everything is going well in terms of the TC's that cross over daily. Can you tell me what has happened since the barbed wires came down in 2003? Can you tell me what has happened to YOU since then. Nothing, so whats your f-ing problem with all this negative energy. You were given that much land I assume. Anyone that psychoanalyzes your behavior, can see right through you like water. Anyone who went through the lowest terms of school can read right through your bitter posts, especially the amount of rubbish that you recycle over and over. Turkey won't go anywhere if she doesn't correct damaged brains like yours VP.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:04 am

growuptcs wrote:Viewpoint, we're all convinced that your a racist to anyone that doesn't agree with your perception about the GC's, or anyone that stands by the rule of law as a solution to Cyprus. Imaginary fears should of worn off by now, but why are you amplifying them when everything is going well in terms of the TC's that cross over daily. Can you tell me what has happened since the barbed wires came down in 2003? Can you tell me what has happened to YOU since then. Nothing, so whats your f-ing problem with all this negative energy. You were given that much land I assume. Anyone that psychoanalyzes your behavior, can see right through you like water. Anyone who went through the lowest terms of school can read right through your bitter posts, especially the amount of rubbish that you recycle over and over. Turkey won't go anywhere if she doesn't correct damaged brains like yours VP.


growup thank you for your kind comments, the division has brought about what we have today and the fact that people cross everyday without much incident is more in support of this than unification as previously experienced. If we were mixed then any attacks could easily be blamed on TCs and camofloulaged. The Turkish Army are also a big factor, the GCs would not be stupid enough to start an intercommunal struggle with them around. Whats the problem with having deterrants if you are not concerned that GCs will play up trying to take control of the whole island removing our community rights? Obviously you have hidden agendas and want free range to do whatever you want.
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Postby growuptcs » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:15 am

Viewpoint:
Whats the problem with having deterrants if you are not concerned that GCs will play up trying to take control of the whole island removing our community rights?


There you go again looking to recycle hatred again VP. Taking control of the island and then removing your community rights is a fabrication that even you dont believe, but you just throw it up in the air just to keep the neverending cycle going. You say it like theres an expiratory date on your rights. Lets say that was going to happen, Turkey wouldn't be here in twenty minutes with ample soldiers again? Aren't WE joining the same club?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:18 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:I am sick and tired of you guys always attacking Kikapu to the point of making him afraid to tell his opinion openely. Of course the report is TOTALLY BIASED. It starts from calling the Republic of Cyprus "GC administration" which is clearly a Turkish invented term, all the substantial recommendations it makes-I mean those that will hacve a real impact- are those requiring the GCs to give 100 to take back 1, upto the point of even recognising the pseudo's administrative structure and start copperating with them. After all it calls it TC administration, which is totally equal to the GC administration. Ain't that right? :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz: :razz:

You guys are PATHETIC.
You are rejecting the few guys among you that are trying to look matters in an objective way. Kikapu is trying to open YOUR eyes not the eyes of the GCs. There are some BLIND Gcs like some of you in this forum.The fact that Kikapu never attacked Piratis ideas doesn't mean he agrees with him. I almost never discuss with Piratis does that mean I agree with him????

So stop this nonsense of trying to make a traitor of one of you. You are becoming more ridiculous than those GCs who were labeling Bananiot a traitor. Each one has his own ideas concentrate on his ideas not on who he is.

To mke a long story short Kikapu is right the report is biased, is pro Turkish, and I already told you why. Convince m it is not so. Convince me Kikapu was not right when he said the same thing.

Convince me he was not right in the other topic when he said "the one who tells the truth is kicked out from 9 villages."


You are right Kikapu is a genuine and true reflection of the GC viewpoint, no one is disputing this fact but he is on the other side of the fence to us TCs which makes him one of you, on your team not ours, comprendo?.

Isnt the administration in the south GC? whats so made up about that?


Administration in the south is called Government of Cyprus. Look at the passports of a few of your friends it clearly says Republic of Cyprus.


Since when has your administration not been GC? Your country is also GC no difference, its a country for GCs run by GCs what not to understand?


The only ones who say so is you and your mama Turka which simply proves the report originates from ome Turkish drawers EXACTLY LIKE YOUR EYE OPENER kikapu has said.

Capich Virgin Princess?


Another expert at trying to divert the debate from the questions asked, why dont you try a yes or no answer for a change?

Is the administration in the south GC?

Is the "RoC" run by GC?

Are the majority of people in the south GCs?

Please try real hard to answer because I know you may find these questions will tax your brain.


Look who is talking. The one who spent the whole first page of the topic simply attacking Kikapu for telling them the TRUTH.

As for your questions try rephrasing them correctly you silly tavuka.

Start by telling us who abandoned the Republic of Cyprus for the sole purpose of creating a pig farm.
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