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[Eric dayi]

Even more than ever, I am determined to do my bit to remove the Turks from my island and every bit of news such as this, no matter how recalcitrant they are at refusing to accept responsibility for their actions, it is more fuel for the impetus to continue the opposition to their occupation and abuses of our people's rights.

Fight the good fight....

Well that's the problem with fights madam, usually, both sides believe they are fighting the "good fight".....

I believe that we TCs are fighting the "good fight" and that we put up a "good fight" and stopped the Greeks and GCs turning us from TCs to Muslim Greeks
in a Greek island.

I am determined to keep up the "good fight" for the survival of TCs as TCs in Cyprus in an internationally recognised TRNC away from Greek and GC interference in our lives and our future as Turkish Cypriots.

I have no wish to be ruled or controlled by people who hate anything and everything Turkish and are trying to force me to forget my Turkishness?

Best solution in Cyprus is what already has happened, partition. Since the island was partitioned there has been no killings or atrocities, let's keep it that way.

Your last paragraph is not entirely true.

Any hate for Turks has only come about because of recent Turkish history on the island

So in that case we TCs should hate the GCs and Greeks because of their historical attempt at genociding us TCs for their ENOSIS dream, right?

I for one can not find it in my heart to hate any one for the simple reason that any hate I may develop will only hurt me and not the person I should hate. Detesting someone enough not to want to live with them and definitely not let them rule my life is a different thing altogether though.

I really refuse to let sock-puppets take charge of my life, just can't stand the smell of them.

and was not inherent prior to this situation,

You Greeks and GCs created this situation so blame yourselves for your loss, not us Turks/TCs.

so you cannot establish a divided island and then claim it is only that way because it is safer for the TCs.

33 years of peace on the island proves me right and you very, very wrong.

The problem at the beginning was your (Greeks and GCs) dream of ENOSIS but that dream was shuttered in 1974 for good. Your dream now is to be the sole rulers of the island and us as second class minority, the removal of all our rights, our Turkishness and our language as an official language in Cyprus. If we were to unify under your condition Cyprus will not be a safe place for us TCs and the killing will start again only this time Turkey will not be allowed to intervene and save us TCs, so you think anyway. So like I said, the best solution for us all is a divided island if you don't want the killing and murdering to start all over again.

You posted your hate for anything Turkish under three different names and you expect us Turkish Cypriots to trust you and put our lives and future in your hands?

Either you are stupid or you think we TCs are stupid enough to believe your lies. Well, seen as we have not surrendered to your demands it can't be us who are stupid so where does that leave you?

[humanist]

Humanist you like using the term "Greek , Turkish speaking Cypriot" a lot of TC's would get offended by you speaking of them in that way, but I know you don't mean any harm in it so it doesn't bother me.

Umit thank you for your response I do not mean to cause any offence. However I am not sure what they would like to be addressed. If Turkish speaking Cypriot is offensive what do you guys like to called as?

Thanks

[Eric dayi]

Humanist you like using the term "Greek , Turkish speaking Cypriot" a lot of TC's would get offended by you speaking of them in that way, but I know you don't mean any harm in it so it doesn't bother me.

Umit thank you for your response I do not mean to cause any offence. However I am not sure what they would like to be addressed. If Turkish speaking Cypriot is offensive what do you guys like to called as?

Thanks

Umit, don't be fooled by this "humanist", he's a snake in the grass just waiting to strike and sink his fangs in to your flesh.

I have had this argument with him about 5/6 (I think???) months ago and he knows that we want to be addressed as Turkish Cypriots. He and a few other snakes
insisted calling me a "foreigner" because I refused to drop the Turkish in front of Cypriot.

He calls himself a "humanist" but a "humanist" he definitely is not.

Benden soylemesi Umit.

[Expatkiwi]

Eric, I agree. Until the Greek Cypriots can start changing their attitude towards their neighbors - particularly the Turks and Turkish Cypriots, partition is the only thing that is going to work.

[phoenix]

Eric, I agree. Until the Greek Cypriots can start changing their attitude towards their neighbors - particularly the Turks and Turkish Cypriots, partition is the only thing that is going to work.

Codswallop ....

If you think the Turks are not the ones who have a seriously bad attitude towards their neighbours and need to change to come up to 21st Century expectations, then you are a lost cause entirely.

[umit07]

Firstly eric dayi I don't know of stuff that went on between you and humanist, so it would be wrong for me to judge him on your basis in any way. It's not as if we are on the bargaining table trying to find a settlement. All I am doing is learning is how other people think.

Humanist I consider myself to be a "Turkish Cypriot" not just Turkish and not just Cypriot. Is that hard to understand?

Umit

[humanist]

Umit thank you for the response ......... for your information am a so called snake in the grass because I refuse to talk to him. But watch out being objective to what a Greek speaking Cypriot may say might see you called many names.

For me it is difficult to understand the whole Turkish/ Greek Cypriot thing. I believe that both communitites have been in Cyprus for a long time to be able to stand on their own two feet and proclaim their independence of any other nation.

Think broadly and universally that is my moto.

[Eric dayi]

Firstly eric dayi I don't know of stuff that went on between you and humanist, so it would be wrong for me to judge him on your basis in any way. It's not as if we are on the bargaining table trying to find a settlement. All I am doing is learning is how other people think.

Humanist I consider myself to be a "Turkish Cypriot" not just Turkish and not just Cypriot. Is that hard to understand?

Umit

The so called "humanist" is now doing the same to you as he did to me, he does not "understand" that you want to be identified as a Turkish Cypriot and not only as a "Cypriot". When I told him that I refuse to drop the Turkish he with the help of his GCs compatriots called me a foreigner. This is their way of trying to force us TCs to forget our Turkishness and become "Cypriots only". They hope that if we drop the Turkish then we become supposedly "Cypriots" like them and agree to a one man one vote
shite they are trying to push down our throats. It is the GCs way of achieving a GCs only ruled island and eventually ENOSIS when they have the upper hand.

My calling "humanist" a snake in the grass has nothing to do about him not wanting to talk to me, he did talk to me, many times and now he is lying about it.

The only time he refused to answer my questions was when I asked him how he can claim to be a "humanist" when he refuses to allow me my human rights to identify myself as I wish to be identified.

Anyway, keep talking to him and you'll see for yourself. You'll also see that other GCs more than likely join him and gang up on you like they tried it with me.

You don't have to judge anyone on my basis Umit, you can do a search in the forum and find out for yourself.

[Pumpy]

Oh, stop bickering like children. Eric, what are you blathering on about?

[Eric dayi]

I am not "blathering" I am saying that the one who claims to be a "humanist" is not a humanist but a snake in the grass. Do you have a problem with that?