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[phoenix]

Purdey you sound like one of those trouble making goaders who think those who make the loudest noise are the ones to listen to.

Stop bullying people into behaving how you would like to see them behave. Do your things your way, and there is room for others to do things their way too.

For some, the forum is enough, for others they use their voting rights, still others communicate with their MPs and I am sure we all go around raising awareness with whomsoever we associate with.

Such is the beauty of living in a free democracy.

It's not just about picking up arms; as without the Turkish influence, the Cypriots are a peaceful nation that has never started a war with another country but has only ever defended itself from invaders.

[Eliko]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

[zan]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

[Eliko]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

zan, the reasons for the invasion are adequately covered by my comments in that they are the result of political manoeuvrings, I am quite sure that the Cypriot people were perfectly happy with their co-existence prior to the introduction of military/political/religious antagonism.

My father was a native of Rizokarpaso, I never heard him (as a G/C) slating his T/C friends and companions.

[zan]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

zan, the reasons for the invasion are adequately covered by my comments in that they are the result of political manoeuvrings, I am quite sure that the Cypriot people were perfectly happy with their co-existence prior to the introduction of military/political/religious antagonism.

My father was a native of Rizokarpaso, I never heard him (as a G/C) slating his T/C friends and companions.

Your use of the words "Occupying Force" Does not do justice to the facts Eliko and are misleading........In that they have no reason to be here. Do ou consider the UN as an occupying Force??????

[boomerang]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

zan, the reasons for the invasion are adequately covered by my comments in that they are the result of political manoeuvrings, I am quite sure that the Cypriot people were perfectly happy with their co-existence prior to the introduction of military/political/religious antagonism.

My father was a native of Rizokarpaso, I never heard him (as a G/C) slating his T/C friends and companions.

Your use of the words "Occupying Force" Does not do justice to the facts Eliko and are misleading........In that they have no reason to be here. Do ou consider the UN as an occupying Force??????

Now thats funny

See I haven't lost my sence of humour...

[zan]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

zan, the reasons for the invasion are adequately covered by my comments in that they are the result of political manoeuvrings, I am quite sure that the Cypriot people were perfectly happy with their co-existence prior to the introduction of military/political/religious antagonism.

My father was a native of Rizokarpaso, I never heard him (as a G/C) slating his T/C friends and companions.

Your use of the words "Occupying Force" Does not do justice to the facts Eliko and are misleading........In that they have no reason to be here. Do ou consider the UN as an occupying Force??????

Now thats funny

See I haven't lost my sence of humour...

Or your lack of understanding and your loyalty to the party line........I have already said, many times that you have won the legal battle with a technicality designed to do just that Boomers but am asking for some honesty....I understand that you are fearful of the Double Jeopardy law but hat does not help find a solution. It only serves to help you hold onto what isn't just yours.....Cyprus.

[humanist]

I had to go back and review that film clip and there was nothing racist about it, and if someone says Turks out of Cyprus is seen as racist well tough luck. He never once said Turkish speaking Cypriots out of Cyprus. The UN itself sated that Turkish troops need to get out of Cyprus, the UN recognises Turkish occupation of Cyprus hence supports UN presence on the Island.

The rest was a bunch of greek kids in Melbourne expressing their views in scopja and albania/macedonia

Bagdatis has every right to express hi views on the Cyprus issue and he did it away from the court. he is not tennis player 24/7, thats job he does when he plays .... just like the rest of us he has time off.

[boomerang]

On approaching the border crossing at Kermia, one is obliged to drive under a gantry which declares something like "I am so glad to be a Turk", such signs as these, in keeping with many other examples of deliberate antagonism displayed on mountainsides and pinnacles do little to ease tensions.

They also serve to illustrate the fact that the occupiers have adopted a grim determination to stay put.

On one wall of the interior of 'Kyrenia Castle' (Girne Kalesi'), a plaster motif depicting the history of conquests, proudly emphasizes the fact that Cyprus (or part of it) has once again fallen victim to an occupying force.

Such examples as these send a clear message to both T/C and G/C (unfortunate titles in my opinion since we are all Cypriots or descendants of) that regardless of our own feelings, we are powerless to effect changes.

The future of this island will be determined by the political and military leaders, those of us (or our families) that have suffered as a result of the invasion/occupation, are of no consequence to any one of our so-called representative leaders or protectors since they are primarily concerned with their own status and well-being.

Armed with such knowledge as this, is it not pointless to continually hurl abuse at each other?, such attitudes only bolster the policies of those who are in control and do nothing to encourage peace.

At St Hilarion Castle (Kalesi) there are several windows at the highest peak, from time to time, certain plotters and undesirables were ejected from these windows (defenestrated), it might be a good idea to subject those who are responsible for the situation that now exists, to be offered the courtesy of those windows.

Not the unfortunate 40,000 or so troops who are obliged to undertake the dirty work of those who are in control of them, they too are powerless to resolve the issues.

In my humble opinion of course.

And the reasons why the so called invaders are there does not concern you???? The fact that the Cyprus Republic has been usurped by the GCs and the "RoC" bares no resemblance to the original???

zan, the reasons for the invasion are adequately covered by my comments in that they are the result of political manoeuvrings, I am quite sure that the Cypriot people were perfectly happy with their co-existence prior to the introduction of military/political/religious antagonism.

My father was a native of Rizokarpaso, I never heard him (as a G/C) slating his T/C friends and companions.

Your use of the words "Occupying Force" Does not do justice to the facts Eliko and are misleading........In that they have no reason to be here. Do ou consider the UN as an occupying Force??????

Now thats funny

See I haven't lost my sence of humour...

Or your lack of understanding and your loyalty to the party line........I have already said, many times that you have won the legal battle with a technicality designed to do just that Boomers but am asking for some honesty....I understand that you are fearful of the Double Jeopardy law but hat does not help find a solution. It only serves to help you hold onto what isn't just yours.....Cyprus.

Man you are losing it...

1...what party line
2...what have I won in a legal battle
3...fearful of double Jeopardy
Stop speading rumours Zan, I don't live in "turkey"

Lets speak about honesty Zan...I favour a democratic strong federal system, like the rest of the developed world, to which I believe the tcs will be a majority in the NTH...

Further more with the extra citizens that you just granted citizenship, you will not be an 18% minority...you are already 30% anyway...so a unitary system is ok too...

Honest enough for you zan?...

[zan]

I had to go back and review that film clip and there was nothing racist about it, and if someone says Turks out of Cyprus is seen as racist well tough luck. He never once said Turkish speaking Cypriots out of Cyprus. The UN itself sated that Turkish troops need to get out of Cyprus, the UN recognises Turkish occupation of Cyprus hence supports UN presence on the Island.

The rest was a bunch of greek kids in Melbourne expressing their views in scopja and albania/macedonia

Bagdatis has every right to express hi views on the Cyprus issue and he did it away from the court. he is not tennis player 24/7, thats job he does when he plays .... just like the rest of us he has time off.