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[Pumpy]

No Greeks, no Western Civilization, no Britain. Ungrateful bastards! What have the Turks ever done for you and civilization?

Why the need to mention this? Everyone knows that language, politics and culture in Europe owes much to the Ancient Greeks. How is this relevant to Cyprus? If it is, it is only relevant in do far as it is an acute reminder and embarassment that the Greek Cypriot people are such rude, obnoxious, arrogant, ignroant peasants - in the main.

Regarding Russians, indeed...I am dismayed at how Cyprus has been foolish enough to allow the influx of a Russian criminal elite into the country. A political decision, among many others, that will cause grave repercussions in the future.

[Sotos]

No Greeks, no Western Civilization, no Britain. Ungrateful bastards! What have the Turks ever done for you and civilization?

Man o man these people are so full of themselves...I wonder if hat Turtle that Atlas is riding on is Greek....

The turtle is a myth. What I said before is a fact. Don't mix the two Do the British have monopoly in the "if it was not for us..." statements?

[Sotos]

No Greeks, no Western Civilization, no Britain. Ungrateful bastards! What have the Turks ever done for you and civilization?

Why the need to mention this? Everyone knows that language, politics and culture in Europe owes much to the Ancient Greeks. How is this relevant to Cyprus? If it is, it is only relevant in do far as it is an acute reminder and embarassment that the Greek Cypriot people are such rude, obnoxious, arrogant, ignroant peasants - in the main.

Regarding Russians, indeed...I am dismayed at how Cyprus has been foolish enough to allow the influx of a Russian criminal elite into the country. A political decision, among many others, that will cause grave repercussions in the future.

I like it how the British drunken Hooligans don't like us and the Russians and they think they are better

[Pumpy]

No Greeks, no Western Civilization, no Britain. Ungrateful bastards! What have the Turks ever done for you and civilization?

Why the need to mention this? Everyone knows that language, politics and culture in Europe owes much to the Ancient Greeks. How is this relevant to Cyprus? If it is, it is only relevant in do far as it is an acute reminder and embarassment that the Greek Cypriot people are such rude, obnoxious, arrogant, ignroant peasants - in the main.

Regarding Russians, indeed...I am dismayed at how Cyprus has been foolish enough to allow the influx of a Russian criminal elite into the country. A political decision, among many others, that will cause grave repercussions in the future.

I like it how the British drunken Hooligans don't like us and the Russians and they think they are better

I like it how Sotos's idea of a respectable reply to this discussion is to label all British people as 'hooligans'. Rather typical xenophobic attitude really.

I make the comment about Russia, because politically speaking, it has proved awkward to allow unfettered Russian immigration into any country post Cold War, on account of the fact that those leaving Russia tend to do so armed with suitcases of very dodgy cash.

[Sotos]

I like it how Sotos's idea of a respectable reply to this discussion is to label all British people as 'hooligans'. Rather typical xenophobic attitude really.

I like it how you call us "rude, obnoxious, arrogant, ignroant peasants" and then you expect no reply you fucking idiot. I just talked to you in a language you understand.

[phoenix]

I've known Brits inside out for over 30 years and if "xenophobic" could be attached to anyone, it is the Brits and not the Cypriots.

Even when on holiday, they have to have some degree of familiarity to their surroundings. When in Spain they have their enclaves of "fish & chip" shops and pubs, in Cyprus ... well we all know why they love Cyprus bless their xenophobic socks ....

The Brits hate the French with a vengeance to surpass and rival the great infamous Turk-Greek schism.

Whilst the Cypriots have embraced Europe and all its myriad of strange folk ... the Brits are still trying to find loopholes to exclude "Johnie Foreigner" from taking residence in the UK.

And I could go on ... but I don't hate the average Brit no matter how badly educated he may be (not his fault .... all part of the government conspiracy to keep them in the UK because if they woke up, opened their eyes and realised what a shit-hole, regarding the weather etc., they lived in, they would all rush off abroad :lol: ).

[halil]

Dear friends Some parts from Mr Christofis Economides book Called DEMYTHOLODİZED HİSTORY OF CYPRUS.

How the British Took Over Cyprus.The Fall of the OTTOMAN EMPİRE and the ''EASTERN PROBLEM''
In 1571-Cyprus was conquered by the Turks.During that time the Ottoman Empire was at its most glories perid and empire streched from Hungary to Create,from Algeria to Mecca,and from Crimea to Iranian Gulf.
How ever from 18th Century onwards, the empire started to weaken and the major powers at the time (Russia,UK,France and Austria) were competing with eacother to share the Sultan's landTo make matters worse , the people of Balkans particularly the Serbians and Greeks, started to revolt in the 19th Century.This problem regarding the fate of the Ottoman territory of SE Europe was referred to as the 'Eastern Problem' Since Cyprus was attached to Ottoman Empire,the ''Cyprus Problem'' also constituted part of eastern problem.
In the 19th century,although the UK wanted to take over a sizeable part of the Ottaman Empire territory, it refrained from doing so , because it was being watched by the other powers,and was consequently apprehensive that Russia,who considered itself to be ''The Chief Inheritor''(of Ottaman Empires territory) would achive its dream of expanding to mediterranean by taking over Istanbul and Canakkale.
England was traying to prevent this from happening.Moreover,England was most probably deterred from fighting with France over Ottaman Empire territory ,sinc France constituted a treat not only for England but also for the Sultan,having entered into an alliance with Russia.Thus England preferred to find peaceful ways of taking over the Ottoman Empire's territory.

After1875 ,the Sultan declared himself bankrupt,because he was unable to meet the demand for taxes and particular the paymants for the huge depts he had borrowed from British bankers.The British Government seised their opportunity and tried to sound out whether or Sultan would yield some of his territory (thinking of Cyprus in particular) in exchange for this economic dept.However,the Sultan's reply was negative,allegedly because he was afraid this would lead to other countries following suit and seeking similar concessions.

NEXT İSSUE will be NEXT Weekend.
Jubject:Convention between Great Britain and Turkey regarding Cyprus.

Above article is published at Dialogue weekly paper by permission of Writer of the book.(25 January)

[Niki]

I've known Brits inside out for over 30 years and if "xenophobic" could be attached to anyone, it is the Brits and not the Cypriots.

Even when on holiday, they have to have some degree of familiarity to their surroundings. When in Spain they have their enclaves of "fish & chip" shops and pubs, in Cyprus ... well we all know why they love Cyprus bless their xenophobic socks ....

A generalising just a little here. A certain sector of the British population might but not the middle classes who visit other countries more often. I personally don't know anyone who seeks a fish and chip shop out when in another country and most people I know avoid places that have them.

The Brits hate the French with a vengeance to surpass and rival the great infamous Turk-Greek schism.

Again a sweeping generalisation. The French have a lot to admire - they are artistic, passionate and have great style (generally!). I have been shocked by their attitude towards the British though when I've visited so I believe this may have 'helped' the British to be wary. But "hate"???

Whilst the Cypriots have embraced Europe and all its myriad of strange folk ... the Brits are still trying to find loopholes to exclude "Johnie Foreigner" from taking residence in the UK.

You must be kidding!!! Many Cypriots I have met are not happy at all about the influx of immigrants and the restrictions imposed by being in the EU, you only have to see other members attitude on this forum. The British have no choice but to get on with the massive immigration and yes many are unhappy about it, but again not everyone.

And I could go on ... but I don't hate the average Brit no matter how badly educated he may be (not his fault .... all part of the government conspiracy to keep them in the UK because if they woke up, opened their eyes and realised what a shit-hole, regarding the weather etc., they lived in, they would all rush off abroad :lol: ).

I thought you were educated in the UK?

200,000 people are leaving the UK every year so maybe they're educated enough to know life could be better elsewhere. You did!

Fair enough to have these opinions Phoenix but the over generalisation is astounding - without any facts at all to support your opinion! I really don't wish to live in the UK but the people are not as bad as you make out.

[phoenix]

I've known Brits inside out for over 30 years and if "xenophobic" could be attached to anyone, it is the Brits and not the Cypriots.

Even when on holiday, they have to have some degree of familiarity to their surroundings. When in Spain they have their enclaves of "fish & chip" shops and pubs, in Cyprus ... well we all know why they love Cyprus bless their xenophobic socks ....

A generalising just a little here. A certain sector of the British population might but not the middle classes who visit other countries more often. I personally don't know anyone who seeks a fish and chip shop out when in another country and most people I know avoid places that have them.

The Brits hate the French with a vengeance to surpass and rival the great infamous Turk-Greek schism.

Again a sweeping generalisation. The French have a lot to admire - they are artistic, passionate and have great style (generally!). I have been shocked by their attitude towards the British though when I've visited so I believe this may have 'helped' the British to be wary. But "hate"???

Whilst the Cypriots have embraced Europe and all its myriad of strange folk ... the Brits are still trying to find loopholes to exclude "Johnie Foreigner" from taking residence in the UK.

You must be kidding!!! Many Cypriots I have met are not happy at all about the influx of immigrants and the restrictions imposed by being in the EU, you only have to see other members attitude on this forum. The British have no choice but to get on with the massive immigration and yes many are unhappy about it, but again not everyone.

And I could go on ... but I don't hate the average Brit no matter how badly educated he may be (not his fault .... all part of the government conspiracy to keep them in the UK because if they woke up, opened their eyes and realised what a shit-hole, regarding the weather etc., they lived in, they would all rush off abroad :lol: ).

I thought you were educated in the UK?

200,000 people are leaving the UK every year so maybe they're educated enough to know life could be better elsewhere. You did!

Fair enough to have these opinions Phoenix but the over generalisation is astounding - without any facts at all to support your opinion! I really don't wish to live in the UK but the people are not as bad as you make out.

When read as a continuation of the previous posts to which it was related, it is no more a generalisation then any ongoing discussion reverts to, to establish the theme.

I was educated in the UK; but I come from a long line of educated people that would have sought tertiary (plus ) education wherever we where ... the UK was not the impetus nor motivation. (It's a Greek thing )

However, I have always been astounded how education is not a priority amongst the Brits, and even for those whom it is, they misinterpret training for a career as equivalent to an education.

We have a house in France and know many Brits who love France, but also know the majority do not.

Regarding the exclusion of J. Foreigner .... I was referring to active Government policies to determine the EU loopholes to restrict such movements .... not the general moans of the public. There is no loophole-seeking policy being actively pursued in the same fashion by the RoC.

P.S. Niki, are we still OK for meeting up for fattening Lattes?

[miltiades]

You state that you were educated in the UK and yet you have failed miserably in your assessment of the British people , and I do not include British passport holders whose allegiance is to a foreign country ..
Brittain has the most civilized and caring people you are likely to find in the world , it also has the most uncivilized and uncaring people and those are the Brits that make the news , the hooligans , single mothers uneducated relying on the state for hand outs producing kids right left and centre , mostly < and expecting society at large to take care of their offsprings , it also has a very large contingent of third world illiterate mostly immigrants , asylum seekers scroungers that hate our guts but love our benefits.

The most generous people you will come across are the British , the silent vast majority who do not go to Spain and seek out fish and chips , who do not come to Cyprus expecting hand outs from the government , but are solid citizens , orderly , civilized and caring . Our poor animals in Cyprus , if they could talk they would be singing God save the Queen because so much influence has been exerted by the Brits on animal welfare , also let me add here that many thousands of Cypriots , if not EVERY Cypriot has derived some sort of benefit by the presence of the Brits on our island.
As far as the British involvement with Cyprus as a British colony then the governments of the day were entirely responsible for much of the events that followed the 30s , 40s and 50s. Stubborn as mules , totaly absorbed in their own destiny , ignoring the plight of the people of Cyprus but at the same time acting entirely within the frame work of Empire Rule .
Let us also remember that the UK is the home of more than 250 thousand Cypriots .