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[zan]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road. Three Turkish jet fighters screamed across the capital as a warning to the Greeks to stop. Paul Marion was a member of the US Navy electronics intelligence gathering facility north of Nicosia, which was set up in 1957. He told me: "I was having a fine lunch at my house, when I heard the planes. They buzzed our neighbourhood so low that they had to climb to clear the slight hill on which we lived. "I dashed up to the roof and saw my Greek neighbours watching the sky. They pleaded for assurances that the aircraft were American. "Sorry. Turkish planes, Turkish insignia and pilots. Then we heard booms in the downtown area which many of us thought were exploding bombs. In fact, they were sonic booms and the noise of the jets' after-burners. This was easily the most memorable Christmas of my 71 years." Bob Casale, a member of the USN team at the American Embassy says: "Battles were fought in all areas of Cyprus, day and night, but the most significant battles took place at night when bands of men roamed the streets, "Most of the fighting in Nicosia was confined to the walled city, where small arms firing at night could be heard for miles. At our hotel, we could hear the noise and, as a precaution, kept the drapes drawn and lights off so as not to attract the attention of a wayward sniper looking for a target. Travel was significantly restricted and it had a dramatic effect on our work schedule." Britain called for an immediate cease-fire. (At this time, few people knew that it was the British High Commissioner who had given Makarios the "green light" to demand and implement his Constitutional amendments.) Makarios and his team, frightened by what they had unleashed, now called for urgent talks with the Cypriot Turkish leadership, as well as drawing into the discussions the diplomatic representatives of Britain and the United States. At no time, however, did they order their underground forces, including Sampson, to stop their attacks. Village after village of Cypriot Turks continued to be annihilated.
Britain Acts

AT the request of Makarios, Britain now provided a "peace force" from its Sovereign Bases. It would be the forerunner of the UN Force. Greek and Turkish military units were expected to be part of it. Major-General Peter Young took command. By New Year's Day 1964 he had positioned his troops between the two sides in Nicosia and tried to impose a cease-fire. The General looked at a map of the capital and with a green china graph pencil drew a line. The Cypriot Turks were to stay North and the Greek Cypriots South. This has become known as "The Green Line". The term is often misused to indicate the division of Cyprus today, but actually only relates to Nicosia. "Mac" McElliligot was a Flight Lieutenant with the RAF Regiment and given the job of setting up a Wing Headquarters, Operations, Briefing and Intelligence Unit, in a mobile caravan that was parked in a Nicosia street. "On one occasion, at the request of the Turkish Vice-President, we had to send eight vehicles, drivers and escorts to a remote Turkish village which had been levelled to the ground by Greek elements using tractors and other heavy, armour-plated vehicles," he recalls. "The bodies of those killed were brought back and handed over to the Vice-President in the Turkish part of the walled city."


In the space of just four days, 30,000 Cypriot Turks were forced to flee 103 villages, according to UN reports. "One incident I recall with amusement from those days was when a Greek manager of the Ledra Palace Hotel, where we had moved our Ops, came to me and handed a wad of bills for our accommodation. They totalled £8,000..

"I returned them to him and said: 'We were brought into this conflict at the request of Makarios to aid the civil power - give the bills to him with my compliments. That was the last I heard."


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/UNFICYP.html

[iceman]

I would like to remind everyone that whatever the GCs have had to do over the years has been in self-defence.

They were fighting for self-preservation on their own soil. They do not nor have ever done in the past, invade another's country and try to kill its people.

I don't remember TCs attacking the GCs back in December 63. Are you sure we're talking about the same country here?

Never mind the country she is from a different planet altogether..

[joe]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road.

Zan, anyone can copy and paste fairy tales. I for one am not interested in fairy tales, i am interested in reading the full UN report of the paragraph you sited in this thread. Provide the full UN report please.

[zan]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road.

Zan, anyone can copy and paste fairy tales. I for one am not interested in fairy tales, i am interested in reading the full UN report of the paragraph you sited in this thread. Provide the full UN report please.

So far I have only found books to buy which have reference to the report...Still looking......Keep an eye on the sites that the copy and pastes are coming from big boy and don't be so dismissive.........

[boomerang]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road.

Zan, anyone can copy and paste fairy tales. I for one am not interested in fairy tales, i am interested in reading the full UN report of the paragraph you sited in this thread. Provide the full UN report please.

So far I have only found books to buy which have reference to the report...Still looking......Keep an eye on the sites that the copy and pastes are coming from big boy and don't be so dismissive.........

Somehow I do not believe you are the only one with books....Name of the book and pg numbers for ref will be fine Zan...

[zan]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road.

Zan, anyone can copy and paste fairy tales. I for one am not interested in fairy tales, i am interested in reading the full UN report of the paragraph you sited in this thread. Provide the full UN report please.

So far I have only found books to buy which have reference to the report...Still looking......Keep an eye on the sites that the copy and pastes are coming from big boy and don't be so dismissive.........

Somehow I do not believe you are the only one with books....Name of the book and pg numbers for ref will be fine Zan...

I haven't got the books Boomers...Sorry for the confusion...I found references to them whilst looking for the report in question. I am sure you can google the reference books..I am still looking for the report but it seems the archives don't go back that far on reports but it does for resolutions...Don't worry...You will be the first to know when I find it.....IF I find it....

[Get Real!]

I haven't got the books Boomers...Sorry for the confusion...I found references to them whilst looking for the report in question. I am sure you can google the reference books..I am still looking for the report but it seems the archives don't go back that far on reports but it does for resolutions...Don't worry...You will be the first to know when I find it.....IF I find it....

In future why don't you find your evidence FIRST and post later? Thank you.

[polis]

Miltiades old chap.......

"180. UNFICYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to
properties throughout the island during the disturbances ... It
shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed
villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2000 others have
suffered damage from looting."

"190. In addition to losses incurred in agriculture and in
industry during the first part of the year, the Turkish community
had lost other sources of its income ... The trade of the Turkish
community had considerably declined during the period, due to the
existing situation, and unemployment reached a very high level as
approximately 25,000 Turkish Cypriots had become refugees."
(S/5950, 10 September 1964)


Any idea what those highlighted mean...


I do like this thread though..........The more you guys deny what happened to us the more you make us unite......

Zan , I do not for one moment consider that T/C villages were not damaged , burned out etc. However when you mention REPORTS from UNFICIP that appear on a propaganda Turkish site , you must also offer the link to those reports . Having searched UN archives on Google and Yahoo I have not been successful in finding those reports. Further more since , at least as far as I'm concerned , the only thing that matters is for the extremists to re assess their goals and prioritise the interests of all Cypriots and of the new generation of Cypriots to come. A constant referral to bitterness and conflict serves only the interests of the fanatics and not the well being of all Cypriots.

Agreed in principle but not in practice..This is not about hate but of respect for peoples suffering and it seems that until the GCs realise what happened hey will carry on believing that they have every right to dismiss my peoples rights on the island as afforded by the Zurich Agreement. Understanding is essential and the EOKA terrorist president and the female version in the education secretary are responsible for the way these people think......

Sorry, but you are trying to set out your real or imaninary suffering (that is real to an extent and imaginary for the remainder) to justify actually inflicting suffering of the same or probably far greater in magnitude and extend on others. There's a gap in the logic of your argument, don't you think?

[boomerang]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road.

Zan, anyone can copy and paste fairy tales. I for one am not interested in fairy tales, i am interested in reading the full UN report of the paragraph you sited in this thread. Provide the full UN report please.

So far I have only found books to buy which have reference to the report...Still looking......Keep an eye on the sites that the copy and pastes are coming from big boy and don't be so dismissive.........

Somehow I do not believe you are the only one with books....Name of the book and pg numbers for ref will be fine Zan...

I haven't got the books Boomers...Sorry for the confusion...I found references to them whilst looking for the report in question. I am sure you can google the reference books..I am still looking for the report but it seems the archives don't go back that far on reports but it does for resolutions...Don't worry...You will be the first to know when I find it.....IF I find it....

Well until you find it, the proper thing to do is withdraw all comments you made, coz, as far as anyone is concerned its hearsay at this moment...

Prrof Zan...we need proof...

[polis]

Greek Cypriot Fears

ON Christmas Day, the 950 troops of the Greek Army stationed in Cyprus joined Sampson and his mob, equipped with mortars, artillery and heavy machine guns. The Turkish contingent of 650 soldiers took up strategic positions on the Nicosia-Kyrenia road. Three Turkish jet fighters screamed across the capital as a warning to the Greeks to stop. Paul Marion was a member of the US Navy electronics intelligence gathering facility north of Nicosia, which was set up in 1957. He told me: "I was having a fine lunch at my house, when I heard the planes. They buzzed our neighbourhood so low that they had to climb to clear the slight hill on which we lived. "I dashed up to the roof and saw my Greek neighbours watching the sky. They pleaded for assurances that the aircraft were American. "Sorry. Turkish planes, Turkish insignia and pilots. Then we heard booms in the downtown area which many of us thought were exploding bombs. In fact, they were sonic booms and the noise of the jets' after-burners. This was easily the most memorable Christmas of my 71 years." Bob Casale, a member of the USN team at the American Embassy says: "Battles were fought in all areas of Cyprus, day and night, but the most significant battles took place at night when bands of men roamed the streets, "Most of the fighting in Nicosia was confined to the walled city, where small arms firing at night could be heard for miles. At our hotel, we could hear the noise and, as a precaution, kept the drapes drawn and lights off so as not to attract the attention of a wayward sniper looking for a target. Travel was significantly restricted and it had a dramatic effect on our work schedule." Britain called for an immediate cease-fire. (At this time, few people knew that it was the British High Commissioner who had given Makarios the "green light" to demand and implement his Constitutional amendments.) Makarios and his team, frightened by what they had unleashed, now called for urgent talks with the Cypriot Turkish leadership, as well as drawing into the discussions the diplomatic representatives of Britain and the United States. At no time, however, did they order their underground forces, including Sampson, to stop their attacks. Village after village of Cypriot Turks continued to be annihilated.
Britain Acts

AT the request of Makarios, Britain now provided a "peace force" from its Sovereign Bases. It would be the forerunner of the UN Force. Greek and Turkish military units were expected to be part of it. Major-General Peter Young took command. By New Year's Day 1964 he had positioned his troops between the two sides in Nicosia and tried to impose a cease-fire. The General looked at a map of the capital and with a green china graph pencil drew a line. The Cypriot Turks were to stay North and the Greek Cypriots South. This has become known as "The Green Line". The term is often misused to indicate the division of Cyprus today, but actually only relates to Nicosia. "Mac" McElliligot was a Flight Lieutenant with the RAF Regiment and given the job of setting up a Wing Headquarters, Operations, Briefing and Intelligence Unit, in a mobile caravan that was parked in a Nicosia street. "On one occasion, at the request of the Turkish Vice-President, we had to send eight vehicles, drivers and escorts to a remote Turkish village which had been levelled to the ground by Greek elements using tractors and other heavy, armour-plated vehicles," he recalls. "The bodies of those killed were brought back and handed over to the Vice-President in the Turkish part of the walled city."


In the space of just four days, 30,000 Cypriot Turks were forced to flee 103 villages, according to UN reports. "One incident I recall with amusement from those days was when a Greek manager of the Ledra Palace Hotel, where we had moved our Ops, came to me and handed a wad of bills for our accommodation. They totalled £8,000..

"I returned them to him and said: 'We were brought into this conflict at the request of Makarios to aid the civil power - give the bills to him with my compliments. That was the last I heard."


http://www.britains-smallwars.com/cyprus/UNFICYP.html

Great source. Almost as reliable as greekmurderers.com.