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WHOSE VIEWS DO YOU SUPPORT FOR A SOLUTION TO THE CYPRUS PROBLEM: MILTIADES' OR GET REAL'S ?

Poll ended at Sun May 18, 2008 8:19 pm

Miltiades
18
50%
Get Real
18
50%
 
Total votes : 36

Postby Piratis » Mon May 19, 2008 3:00 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:
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74LB wrote:For the record, my vote would have gone to Miltiades which could have made this 'poll' 50/50.

Kind of sad that so many of us want to kill each other and sums up (imo) why we are in this mess in the first place

:( :(


You got it wrong. The reason we are in the mess we are today is that you want to gain land and disproportionate amount of power on our loss, and you collaborate with Turkey and UK in order to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and self-determination.

We don't want to kill anybody. But I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore legality and order in the north occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus then you will start killing us again in order to impose your illegalities and steal our lands. Isn't it?


In very simplistic terms, the two options on this particualr poll had one member advocating a peaceful end via negotiations and another advocating the use of force (as & when necessary).

My interpretation is that half the voters agreed to the use of force and whatever way you look at it this option means that many people will die, and mostly innocent ones at that.

I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore 'legality and order in the north' as you put it, and uses forceful means as voted by half the voters to achieve this, then you are the ones who will start the killings.


War and conflict is not our choice, but defending our country and our sovereignty from foreign invadors is our obligation. War is the choice of Turkey and those TCs who illegally violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus.

I hope that the foreign aggressors will withdraw from our country without the need for a fight. But if they insist on continuing the war against us then of course they should know that we will not surrender our lands to them and that we will defend our country and its sovereignty in all ways possible.

Just answer this question: Do you know any country in the history of mankind that would have the military capability to defend its sovereignty from a foreign invader and would choose not to do so? (and here I am talking about countries, not empires gifting or selling parts of their empires to others)

It really goes without saying that if Cyprus at some point in the future will be capable of liberating its own lands by a military action against the foreign invadors then it will do it.


You have learned nothıng just lıek ın the past you agaın forget thıs island also belongs to us has well and we have the right to defend ourselves.


The island belongs to Republic of Cyprus and its citizens. Republic of Cyprus has every right to defend its sovereignty from foreign invadors.

You have all the rights as every other Cypriot citizen, but you have no right to steal the properties of others, neither any right to assist a foreign country to violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus.
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Postby 74LB » Mon May 19, 2008 10:10 am

Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:For the record, my vote would have gone to Miltiades which could have made this 'poll' 50/50.

Kind of sad that so many of us want to kill each other and sums up (imo) why we are in this mess in the first place

:( :(


You got it wrong. The reason we are in the mess we are today is that you want to gain land and disproportionate amount of power on our loss, and you collaborate with Turkey and UK in order to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and self-determination.

We don't want to kill anybody. But I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore legality and order in the north occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus then you will start killing us again in order to impose your illegalities and steal our lands. Isn't it?


In very simplistic terms, the two options on this particualr poll had one member advocating a peaceful end via negotiations and another advocating the use of force (as & when necessary).

My interpretation is that half the voters agreed to the use of force and whatever way you look at it this option means that many people will die, and mostly innocent ones at that.

I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore 'legality and order in the north' as you put it, and uses forceful means as voted by half the voters to achieve this, then you are the ones who will start the killings.


War and conflict is not our choice, but defending our country and our sovereignty from foreign invadors is our obligation. War is the choice of Turkey and those TCs who illegally violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus.

I hope that the foreign aggressors will withdraw from our country without the need for a fight. But if they insist on continuing the war against us then of course they should know that we will not surrender our lands to them and that we will defend our country and its sovereignty in all ways possible.

Just answer this question: Do you know any country in the history of mankind that would have the military capability to defend its sovereignty from a foreign invader and would choose not to do so? (and here I am talking about countries, not empires gifting or selling parts of their empires to others)

It really goes without saying that if Cyprus at some point in the future will be capable of liberating its own lands by a military action against the foreign invadors then it will do it.


War and conflict is no-ones choice (and please spare me the history lesson regarding the Ottomans) but as a TC community we had a right to defend ourselves once the events of Dec 1963 unfolded.

And to answer your question about defending ones country, no I do not, but its seems that many feel that military action is what will finally resolve this issue........and we all know that many innocents will die as a result.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 19, 2008 11:47 am

74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:
Piratis wrote:
74LB wrote:For the record, my vote would have gone to Miltiades which could have made this 'poll' 50/50.

Kind of sad that so many of us want to kill each other and sums up (imo) why we are in this mess in the first place

:( :(


You got it wrong. The reason we are in the mess we are today is that you want to gain land and disproportionate amount of power on our loss, and you collaborate with Turkey and UK in order to deny to the Cypriot people democracy and self-determination.

We don't want to kill anybody. But I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore legality and order in the north occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus then you will start killing us again in order to impose your illegalities and steal our lands. Isn't it?


In very simplistic terms, the two options on this particualr poll had one member advocating a peaceful end via negotiations and another advocating the use of force (as & when necessary).

My interpretation is that half the voters agreed to the use of force and whatever way you look at it this option means that many people will die, and mostly innocent ones at that.

I guess if Cyprus attempts to restore 'legality and order in the north' as you put it, and uses forceful means as voted by half the voters to achieve this, then you are the ones who will start the killings.


War and conflict is not our choice, but defending our country and our sovereignty from foreign invadors is our obligation. War is the choice of Turkey and those TCs who illegally violate the sovereignty of Republic of Cyprus.

I hope that the foreign aggressors will withdraw from our country without the need for a fight. But if they insist on continuing the war against us then of course they should know that we will not surrender our lands to them and that we will defend our country and its sovereignty in all ways possible.

Just answer this question: Do you know any country in the history of mankind that would have the military capability to defend its sovereignty from a foreign invader and would choose not to do so? (and here I am talking about countries, not empires gifting or selling parts of their empires to others)

It really goes without saying that if Cyprus at some point in the future will be capable of liberating its own lands by a military action against the foreign invadors then it will do it.


War and conflict is no-ones choice (and please spare me the history lesson regarding the Ottomans) but as a TC community we had a right to defend ourselves once the events of Dec 1963 unfolded.

And to answer your question about defending ones country, no I do not, but its seems that many feel that military action is what will finally resolve this issue........and we all know that many innocents will die as a result.


Any war started by the GCs will achieve a big Koullouri. War begets war and we know all about it.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon May 19, 2008 12:39 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Any war started by the GCs will achieve a big Koullouri. War begets war and we know all about it.

The TC community was praying for the Turks to invade from the 1930s and right up to 1974 when it actually happened and their dream was realized, but it seems that now that they have illegally “acquired” the properties of the Greek Cypriots they suddenly want “peace”!

I don’t see any TCs returning the stolen land and properties and/or protesting to the Turkish military so it’s apparent that your community is as much a part of this theft and ethnic cleansing as the invaders themselves.

The TC community has certainly profited enormously from a one-sided INVASION & OCCUPATION so now that the RoC has armed herself to the teeth and can fight back you have all of a sudden become Mahatma Gandhi preachers with anti-war slogans!

Be it known to you that this time round it’ll be a REAL WAR and not the one-sided gimmick of 1974… and this time the biggest losers will be those that PARLAY WITH THE ENEMY TODAY at the expense of the Greek Cypriots make no mistake...
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 19, 2008 12:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Any war started by the GCs will achieve a big Koullouri. War begets war and we know all about it.

The TC community was praying for the Turks to invade from the 1930s and right up to 1974 when it actually happened and their dream was realized, but it seems that now that they have illegally “acquired” the properties of the Greek Cypriots they suddenly want “peace”!

I don’t see any TCs returning the stolen land and properties and/or protesting to the Turkish military so it’s apparent that your community is as much a part of this theft and ethnic cleansing as the invaders themselves.

The TC community has certainly profited enormously from a one-sided INVASION & OCCUPATION so now that the RoC has armed herself to the teeth and can fight back you have all of a sudden become Mahatma Gandhi preachers with anti-war slogans!

Be it known to you that this time round it’ll be a REAL WAR and not the one-sided gimmick of 1974… and this time the biggest losers will be those that PARLAY WITH THE ENEMY TODAY at the expense of the Greek Cypriots make no mistake...



Those that wanted Turkey only did so as a counterwight for Enosis. It worked. Until ofcourse your Greek Junta and the anti Bishop mob decided on bloodshed.

Are you saying we asked for it? Wake up GR. You are not as ignorant as you want us to believe.

Stop sabre rattling and stop the empty threats. The next time - God forbid - will be disastrous. We will all suffer.


Remember the 'good old days' when they used to say, "better DEAD than RED". With todays mentality its "Better RED than DEAD".

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.
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Postby halil » Mon May 19, 2008 3:48 pm

YES DENİZ YES

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 19, 2008 3:54 pm

halil wrote:YES DENİZ YES

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.


Merhaba Halil,

What is cooking? Any Inginar dolmasi?/stuffed artichokes?
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Postby boomerang » Mon May 19, 2008 4:03 pm

halil wrote:YES DENİZ YES

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.


huh?...I got kicked out of Cyprus and the only thing I got was a silly hat
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 19, 2008 4:05 pm

boomerang wrote:
halil wrote:YES DENİZ YES

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.


huh?...I got kicked out of Cyprus and the only thing I got was a
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Worry ye not. Stretch the tassle it will become Greek. :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Mon May 19, 2008 4:06 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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halil wrote:YES DENİZ YES

There has been enough bloodshed on Cyprus. Negotiate a peace settlement and lets sort the 'illegalities' issue as well.


huh?...I got kicked out of Cyprus and the only thing I got was a
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Worry ye not. Stretch the tassle it will become Greek. :lol:


its the colour I tell yeah... :lol:
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