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[Piratis]

Mehmet,
Do you think Denctash wanted a solution? How can somebody that doesn't want a solution compromise on anything?

Also, unfortunately the Turkish side along with US and UK pressured Annan and managed to "win" almost everything they wanted. So we were the losers in the discussions because the balance of power didn't favor us. But if this solution is going to be approved by both sides then there shouldn't be any winners or losers. It should be something that will benefit if not everybody, at least a majority of people on each side. Otherwise the plan will always be rejected from one of the two sides.

[PEACE]

Mehmet,
Do you think Denctash wanted a solution? How can somebody that doesn't want a solution compromise on anything?

Also, unfortunately the Turkish side along with US and UK pressured Annan and managed to "win" almost everything they wanted. So we were the losers in the discussions because the balance of power didn't favor us. But if this solution is going to be approved by both sides then there shouldn't be any winners or losers. It should be something that will benefit if not everybody, at least a majority of people on each side. Otherwise the plan will always be rejected from one of the two sides.

Denktas only wanted annexation !That's it! He refused all thats why!

Hımm on Sweden there was no Denktas but there was Talat! What changed? The only thing is you sit to guilty side chair!

[mehmet]

Denktas was under a lot of pressure, the tide has turned against him, yet still he was the President. Do you think Papadopoulos tried any more than Denktas did? From where I'm standing he did nothing to reach agreement and then did everything to help it fail.

If the balance of power so much favours Turkey and Turkish Cypriots why is TRNC unrecognised? Greek Cypriots must have some friends too, do they not try so hard to support Greek Cypriot concerns? Just this week Russia veto a resolution which was addressing concerns that AKEL has raised.

Denktas stay in Cyprus rather than compromise, Talat take his place. Papadopoulos go to Switzerland, yet still no agreement. I don't believe we will get anywhere with him as President of RoC, but who represents you is your business not mine.

[PEACE]

Denktas was under a lot of pressure, the tide has turned against him, yet still he was the President. Do you think Papadopoulos tried any more than Denktas did? From where I'm standing he did nothing to reach agreement and then did everything to help it fail.

Papadopulos is the Greek version of Denktas! Why some gcs are becoming angry when hear this? I'll never forget that Papadopulos said that he'll work for Hellenism but NOT for Cypriots!

Denktas stay in Cyprus rather than compromise, Talat take his place. Papadopoulos go to Switzerland, yet still no agreement. I don't believe we will get anywhere with him as President of RoC, but who represents you is your business not mine.

Denktas represent only grey wolves' desires!Papadopulos? I'm not going to say he represent EOKA gang! But there is a point that i'm sure! He IS NOT representing Cypriots![/quote]

[MicAtCyp]

Mehmet,
The next referee will be EU, somewhere near December.Then you will have your own chance to vote for a "New Arbitrator". Then we talk again.

By the way do you remember how Anan was virtually pull up by his sleeve to go to the security council to issue a "war claim" Vs Iraq by the Americans? He is a puppet man, admit it.

[mehmet]

If the EU is the next referee, what difference do you think that will make? I gather the Verhuegen feels he was decieved by Greek Cypriot side because they didn't make solution an issue in return for RoC backing Plan.
You might not like Annan, I suspect you are not going to like anyone from EU either. Then you can blame them instead. Obstacles to a solution are nearer to you than you think. You don't need to leave the island to find them.

[MicAtCyp]

[quote="mehmet"]If the EU is the next referee, what difference do you think that will make?

Just wait and see.Nobody falls into the same trap twice that's for sure.

[insan]

Diko, Akel and all other no voters think that in the next 6 months time Turkey will be enforced to withdraw all of her troops. In addition, they expect a new security council resolution regarding the settlers withdrawal... No restrictions for refugees turn back plus political rights.


What else?

A strong federal government that will have the power to dominate on component states...


They strongly believe that Turkey will say yes to all of those above demands of GCs because of her EU accession...


It strongly seems to me impossible....

I can just say good luck to them... They will try their last chance to get what they believe is better for them... They even think that it's better for TCs as well...


Yeah... if we were in April 1975 and all the criminals of Cyprus tragedy had been judged, I definetly would give support to their rightful demands...

[Piratis]

Diko, Akel and all other no voters

Diko and Akel are parties, not voters. The voters that said "no" are the majority of all all parties except EDI where "only" 45% voted no.

We do not expect anything. We had a bad plan, that is worst that current situation and worst than "standard" partition and we had not other choice than to reject it. It is as simple as that!

We will work for a plan that can be acceptable for both sides. I am sure this plan can be better than partition for TC also.

[insan]

What we've got so far in 40 years:

- So many fake heroes.
- So many lies.
- Washed and poisoned brains.
- Wrong ambitions.
- One-sided and self-inerested dreams.


The weirdest conditions for a bi-communal country.... They never will be able to establish a real, honest, strong unified Cyprus as long as the issues mentioned above Can't be elliminated.