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Postby michalis5354 » Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:48 pm

I came accross recently a Turk from Turkey married to a GreekCypriot girl and are both living in the ROC. his name is volkan .
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Postby Oracle » Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:25 pm

zan wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Does he have the father's surname?


Try to keep up dear.....They can chose what ever name they want..Mother or father....It then means choosing wether you are TC or GC regardless..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Whooossshhh! Right over your head! :roll:

Let's see if Bananiot the "liberal" will delve deeper ... or just tell me to "shut up" because he does not want to have to think ......


Lets go with it then Oracle...I am willing to answer it because I have a higher threshold for stupid questions than Bananiot.....


Come on Orks...Why have you run away......


It's your Baseline for Stupidity (not threshold) that is unchallengeable ... :lol:

If the couple had a child knowing their "differences" and the child went by the commonly accepted mode of adopting the father's name ... then why would the mother deem any more importance to the "ethnicity " label?

If she has relinquished the child's surname to that of the father's ... then it is no extra loss to call her child a TC ... END OF! ... no problem! ... only Bananabrains would find discourse with ethnicity and not preferential treatment to a father giving his name to the children ... hence a pseudo-liberal conundrum of the Banana-Kings making! ... and you the dick head that thought he understood! :roll:
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:28 am

What a fool! I give up.
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Re: WHAT A MESS

Postby Kifeas » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:20 am

Bananiot wrote:She is Greek Cypriot and she married a Turkish Cypriot. They live in the RoC. A thousand problems needed to be overcome, some real, most imaginary. Now they have a huge problem.

The lady gave birth to a lovely son. Red tape has it that the boy needs top be "enrolled" as a citizen but Cypriot alone will not do. He needs to be written as a Greek Cypriot or a Turkish Cypriot. These are the only two options.


Bananiot, don't tell that to the GCs! Go and tell that to your Turkish /TC /British friends, for it is them that have insisted in the adoption of this "idea" in Cyprus, since 1960, and it is them that keep insisting that we should retain it in perpetuity, as an integral part of any solution, so that their (Turkish) claim that they constitute a "separate people," is safeguarded!
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:42 am

Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:
zan wrote:
Oracle wrote:Does he have the father's surname?


Try to keep up dear.....They can chose what ever name they want..Mother or father....It then means choosing wether you are TC or GC regardless..... :roll: :roll: :roll:


Whooossshhh! Right over your head! :roll:

Let's see if Bananiot the "liberal" will delve deeper ... or just tell me to "shut up" because he does not want to have to think ......


Lets go with it then Oracle...I am willing to answer it because I have a higher threshold for stupid questions than Bananiot.....


Come on Orks...Why have you run away......


It's your Baseline for Stupidity (not threshold) that is unchallengeable ... :lol:

If the couple had a child knowing their "differences" and the child went by the commonly accepted mode of adopting the father's name ... then why would the mother deem any more importance to the "ethnicity " label?

If she has relinquished the child's surname to that of the father's ... then it is no extra loss to call her child a TC ... END OF! ... no problem! ... only Bananabrains would find discourse with ethnicity and not preferential treatment to a father giving his name to the children ... hence a pseudo-liberal conundrum of the Banana-Kings making! ... and you the dick head that thought he understood! :roll:


Thats it!!! Thats what you are so proud of yourself for understanding :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: My my you must set some low levels for yourself :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a funny lass at time.

There is no CYPRIOT option for a mixed marriage dear...That is the point not the simple solution of whose name.....Talk about making a meal of it......Please Bananiot....Next time tell this woman in simple terms so we don't get little pointless lectures of the obvious :lol: :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:12 am

Kifeas, I wrote that for everyone to see, but your response demonstrates utter ignorance of how this problem evolved historically. You only make a fool of yourself by constantly blaming the "others" for all our misforunes.
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Re: WHAT A MESS

Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:28 am

Kifeas wrote:
Bananiot wrote:She is Greek Cypriot and she married a Turkish Cypriot. They live in the RoC. A thousand problems needed to be overcome, some real, most imaginary. Now they have a huge problem.

The lady gave birth to a lovely son. Red tape has it that the boy needs top be "enrolled" as a citizen but Cypriot alone will not do. He needs to be written as a Greek Cypriot or a Turkish Cypriot. These are the only two options.


Bananiot, don't tell that to the GCs! Go and tell that to your Turkish /TC /British friends, for it is them that have insisted in the adoption of this "idea" in Cyprus, since 1960, and it is them that keep insisting that we should retain it in perpetuity, as an integral part of any solution, so that their (Turkish) claim that they constitute a "separate people," is safeguarded!



You have had the "RoC" for how many years now.........How many resolutions did you get passed on the basis that there is only one people on the island..CYPRIOTS....How many?????You can fool some of the people some of the time Kifeas but to think that it will go on for ever is just naivety....You will learn soon I hope that it cannot go on.... :roll:
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:38 am

Bananiot wrote:Kifeas, I wrote that for everyone to see, but your response demonstrates utter ignorance of how this problem evolved historically. You only make a fool of yourself by constantly blaming the "others" for all our misforunes.


And how did this problem evolved historically, Bananiot? Do tell us, and see if you know history! Let's see if you will be able to trace it back to were it truly evolved and belongs, which is the "millet sistemi" of the Ottomans that the British retained and "helped" continue in Cyprus, even after independence, i.e. the separation and institutionalised banding of a country's people into "castes," based on their religious and/or cultural orientation; or you will blame it only on the GCs for wanting enosis in the 50’s, in order to score a cheap pro-Turkish goal!
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:41 am

Kifeas wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Kifeas, I wrote that for everyone to see, but your response demonstrates utter ignorance of how this problem evolved historically. You only make a fool of yourself by constantly blaming the "others" for all our misforunes.


And how did this problem evolved historically, Bananiot? Do tell us, and see if you know history! Let's see if you will be able to trace it back to were it truly evolved and belongs, which is the "millet sistemi" of the Ottomans that the British retained and "helped" continue in Cyprus, even after independence, i.e. the separation and institutionalised banding of a country's people into "castes," based on their religious and/or cultural orientation; or you will blame it only on the GCs for wanting enosis in the 50’s, in order to strike a cheap pro-Turkish shot!


And what is the Megali idea of a hundred years before???? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Kifeas » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:47 am

Zan, forget it my dear! I will never waste my time arguing with an imbecile that just talks for the sake of talking, without knowing what he says in most cases!
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