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Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:51 am

Kifeas wrote:Zan, forget it my dear! I will never waste my time arguing with an imbecile that just talks for the sake of talking, without knowing what he says in most cases!


Of course you will not...Because you have no leg to stand on.....You are happy to tell one side of your twisted story but refuse to answer to the other.....Never mind though......If it is going to be as easy as this to shoot you down then you are hardly worth worrying about anyway....The Megali idea was there long before anything and so was ENOSIS......They have gone hand in hand for hundreds of years. You just don't like seeing that reality.....TOUGH!!!
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Postby humanist » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:17 am

hang on my ID card says nationality Cypriot ........ no distinction
anyway what was she doin maryying a turk in the first place :):):):):):):) just a joke
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:19 am

humanist wrote:hang on my ID card says nationality Cypriot ........ no distinction
anyway what was she doin maryying a turk in the first place :):):):):):):) just a joke


It seems that this is an internal affair!!! 8)
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 01, 2008 11:15 am

Kifeas is absolutely right on this point and only those who have no direct memory of the situation would say otherwise.

Our identity cards under the British specified ethnicity. It was a British idea and it has been adopted and promoted by the TC Turkish side.

ALso remember that this practice is inconsistent with EU aquis. Identity cards cannot note a persons ethnicity or religion, not even voluntarily. Greece lost this point in the EU, much to the church's disappointment.

So to get to the case in question, the child's birth must be duly registered, his parent's nationality gives him status as a Cypriot and nothing more needs to be added. It is a non problem. It is clear by now that when the national laws of a member state are in conflict with EU laws , the latter prevail.

Now tell this to Mr Talat who insists on deviations from EU rules.
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Postby zan » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:01 pm

Nikitas wrote:Kifeas is absolutely right on this point and only those who have no direct memory of the situation would say otherwise.

Our identity cards under the British specified ethnicity. It was a British idea and it has been adopted and promoted by the TC Turkish side.

ALso remember that this practice is inconsistent with EU aquis. Identity cards cannot note a persons ethnicity or religion, not even voluntarily. Greece lost this point in the EU, much to the church's disappointment.

So to get to the case in question, the child's birth must be duly registered, his parent's nationality gives him status as a Cypriot and nothing more needs to be added. It is a non problem. It is clear by now that when the national laws of a member state are in conflict with EU laws , the latter prevail.

Now tell this to Mr Talat who insists on deviations from EU rules.


What has this got to do with Talat...The problem is on your side.....Provide the necessary box to tick...We have not had a say in your politics since 1963...How can you blame us?
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Postby DT. » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:03 pm

zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Kifeas is absolutely right on this point and only those who have no direct memory of the situation would say otherwise.

Our identity cards under the British specified ethnicity. It was a British idea and it has been adopted and promoted by the TC Turkish side.

ALso remember that this practice is inconsistent with EU aquis. Identity cards cannot note a persons ethnicity or religion, not even voluntarily. Greece lost this point in the EU, much to the church's disappointment.

So to get to the case in question, the child's birth must be duly registered, his parent's nationality gives him status as a Cypriot and nothing more needs to be added. It is a non problem. It is clear by now that when the national laws of a member state are in conflict with EU laws , the latter prevail.

Now tell this to Mr Talat who insists on deviations from EU rules.


What has this got to do with Talat...The problem is on your side.....Provide the necessary box to tick...We have not had a say in your politics since 1963...How can you blame us?


You've not been in govt since 63 and yet we still leave the laws that affect the TC's untouched. :roll:

Have you even managed to leave a village with its original name?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:23 pm

The child is obviously a True Cypriot.... :wink:
Not a GC or a TC but the real McCoy..
What is stopping the ROC simply adding Cypriot to the available options???....
This would solve Kafenes' problem as well.... :(

I am asking this in all ignorance of the legalities of the situation...So please respond only if you know the legal impediment to adding Cypriot to the form..... 8)
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Postby DT. » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:25 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:The child is obviously a True Cypriot.... :wink:
Not a GC or a TC but the real McCoy..
What is stopping the ROC simply adding Cypriot to the available options???....
This would solve Kafenes' problem as well.... :(

I am asking this in all ignorance of the legalities of the situation...So please respond only if you know the legal impediment to adding Cypriot to the form..... 8)


If the govt goes ahead and does that then they would be hounded by people like the Zan's and VP's of this place of trying to assimilate the TC's by osmosis. Yet more paranoia.
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Postby Nikitas » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:33 pm

The EU puts an end to it. It is against EU rules to include any distinguishing characteristics on the IDs like religion, ethnic grouping etc. It has not dealt with Cyprus yet, but it will be interesting when the question comes up as it will when the draft solution is put through the EU filter.

In Greece they wanted to have an option for citizens to voluntarily declare on the IDs their religion. It was struck down as contrary to EU rules on personal data protection.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:38 pm

Nikitas wrote:The EU puts an end to it. It is against EU rules to include any distinguishing characteristics on the IDs like religion, ethnic grouping etc. It has not dealt with Cyprus yet, but it will be interesting when the question comes up as it will when the draft solution is put through the EU filter.

In Greece they wanted to have an option for citizens to voluntarily declare on the IDs their religion. It was struck down as contrary to EU rules on personal data protection.


Cyprus is EU compliant, Nikitas.

My RoC Identity card issued earlier this year, just has CYPRIOT as the Nationality!
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