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[Nikephoros]

"Among classical [Islamic] jurists (Shaybani 1966 ;Tabari 1990. 15-6 ; Ibn Rushd 1995, 656), the peace between dar al-lslam [abode of peace] and Dar al-harb [abode of war] means the temporary suspension of military conflict. Despite their disagreement on the duration of a peace treaty, Muslim jurists are in accord on the provisional status of peace with non-believers. The term used is "hudna" meaning "truce" or "armistice". This view is totally consistent with the principle of total war against polytheism that we discussed above."

From the Canadian Thesis:
Islam and War : the disparity between the technological-normative evolution of modern war and the doctrine of Jihad
http://amicus.collectionscanada.ca/s4-b ... &rp=1&vo=1

pg. 115 but on my PDF reader it is pg. 134

Turkish National Defence Policy Document displaying the Islamic hudna concept along with traditional muslim "military josh" talk:

http://endoturkika.blogspot.com/2008/09/na...cument-and.html
The “ National Defence Policy’s Document ” (Milli Guvenlik Siyaset Belgesi) is actualised regularly (every 3-5 years) by the Secretariat of National Security Council (MGK), taking into consideration the internal and external threats for the Turkish Republic in the context of the international environment.

Mr Ali Kulebi, chairman of the Centre of Strategic Studies (TUSAM) ...

Mr Ali Kulebi ... writes: “In the current world, the loyalty of international agreements that contradict national interests constitutes a practice of weak nations!”. ...

Proud eternal leader of the Turks, showing his high regard for signing "peace" agreements, only to break them later:

"There is no doubt that England, France, Italy and Greece want to disintegrate us today. But if we make peace under the aegis of a foreign power, we shall be able in our own interest to revise its stipulations as soon as the conditions are favourable."

Ataturk, Mustafa Ghazi Kemal. The Great Speech. Ataturk Research Center, Ankara; 2005. p. 87.

How long will it take Greek leaders to understand that they are not dealing with some Western nation when they meet with Turkish leaders? There is more deception than good will at most of these meetings, from the Turkish side.

If you sign an agreement they will most often just violate it later and stonewall in the international community with lies and deception (muslim taqqiyaa or concealment).

[repulsewarrior]

...yes it is entirely possible that Turkey is still struggling with the Treaty of Lausanne. It would explain alot about their view of Cyprus, and the lack of integrity on any other issue involving the island since then.

[Nikitas]

why resort to research on this issue? There are daily violations of Greek air and sea space, the doubting of frontiers they had agreed to and signed decades ago.

The above is a rationalisation of the process, no explanations are needed. I think the Greeks who have to foot the bill for the daily interception flights and the constant sea patrols know the score. It costs about as much as a good school to keep a jet on standby for days on end.

[Nikephoros]

Are you kidding, why did I do research?

Have you read any Greek newspaper and heard the foreign policy objectives vis a vis Turkey? The Greece of "invest in Turkey", the Greece of "lets support AKP", the Greece of "lets support Turkish EU bid", the Greece of "let's democratize Turkey". Or how about the Republic of Cyprus of lets entertain to negotiate with a mythical Turkish Cypriot which has no power, and lets entertain the idea of dis-establishing the National Guard and "abolishing all military forces in Cyprus". Meanwhile the Turkish army which caused most the Cyprus problem will still exist and have an easy time violating such a hudna agreement of demilitarization of Cyprus and re-invading a ROC that this time has not even its National Guard.

Most Greeks have fallen for the greatest Turkish takiyye(lying or concealing one's true beliefs) of the last century: that Turkey is a modern, secular country. Thus they cannot evaluate Turkey correctly because they ignore it is a muslim country, coming from the fanatic warlike Islamic civilization.

Where it not for the Greek side falling for their constant deceptions, the Turkish side would have alot harder time in its exterior policy.