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[DT.]

I am an old boy and definitely born in 1974. But how does that affect what I told you about Arapakis and Georgitsis.

Where did Georgitsis retire? Do you ask yourself why he was not accused of anything? He set up a business in Thessaloniki and lived happily ever after. Never gave any interviews about his role in 1974.

It is simple- if he was accused he would raise his orders as a defence and the whole thing would be blown open.

Use your brain. If you do not it will go rusty.

Just like EURO NEWS - NO COMMENT, NO COMMENT NO COMMENT !!!!

cut the crap Byron, you won't get away with it on this forum.

I dont understand your comment please explain ?

Give yourself up and Paphitis and GR will be kind to your family.

[Byron]

I am an old boy and definitely born in 1974. But how does that affect what I told you about Arapakis and Georgitsis.

Where did Georgitsis retire? Do you ask yourself why he was not accused of anything? He set up a business in Thessaloniki and lived happily ever after. Never gave any interviews about his role in 1974.

It is simple- if he was accused he would raise his orders as a defence and the whole thing would be blown open.

Use your brain. If you do not it will go rusty.

Just like EURO NEWS - NO COMMENT, NO COMMENT NO COMMENT !!!!

cut the crap Byron, you won't get away with it on this forum.

I dont understand your comment please explain ?

Give yourself up and Paphitis and GR will be kind to your family.

Give myself up to whom ? Kind to my family ? What the hell are you talking about ? I am sorry but I just do not understand what you are trying to say. Try writing English instead of Globish.

[Nikitas]

Paphitis said:

"But I think it is unnecessary and unproductive to hold a grudge against Greece in this day and age."

Paphiti, I do not hold a grudge, I am half Greek in any case, and I have been living and working here for 35 years.

But, when some people try to blame everything on the junta as if it was constituted by some other race, and shrug off all responsibility then that pisses me off big time. Look at it another way, if the attempt had succeded, assuming it was a plan to take over the whole island, would these deniers take the same stance? Would they assert that Cyprus does not belong to Greece because it was taken over by the junta?

I sat and listened to people who were supposed to have "fought" in Athens Polytechnic, and who cashed in their credentials and became ministers and high ranking officials, urge Cypriots to accept the Annan plan because Greece (not the junta!!!!) suffered a defeat in 1974 and the plan was the best they could hope for. For months after the rejection of the Annan plan there were articles in certain papers here denigrating Papadopoulos, written by people who otherwise assert the "sovereignty" of the people and who are supposedly left wing and anti imperialists.

But like another Cypriot, much wiser than I, Micahlis Kakoyannis, (who also has lived in Greece for a long time) said: "some of the worst detractors of this place were born here".

[Paphitis]

Paphitis said:

"But I think it is unnecessary and unproductive to hold a grudge against Greece in this day and age."

Paphiti, I do not hold a grudge, I am half Greek in any case, and I have been living and working here for 35 years.

But, when some people try to blame everything on the junta as if it was constituted by some other race, and shrug off all responsibility then that pisses me off big time. Look at it another way, if the attempt had succeded, assuming it was a plan to take over the whole island, would these deniers take the same stance? Would they assert that Cyprus does not belong to Greece because it was taken over by the junta?

I sat and listened to people who were supposed to have "fought" in Athens Polytechnic, and who cashed in their credentials and became ministers and high ranking officials, urge Cypriots to accept the Annan plan because Greece (not the junta!!!!) suffered a defeat in 1974 and the plan was the best they could hope for. For months after the rejection of the Annan plan there were articles in certain papers here denigrating Papadopoulos, written by people who otherwise assert the "sovereignty" of the people and who are supposedly left wing and anti imperialists.

But like another Cypriot, much wiser than I, Micahlis Kakoyannis, (who also has lived in Greece for a long time) said: "some of the worst detractors of this place were born here".

Excellent post Nikita.

The following statement is particularly pertinent:

But, when some people try to blame everything on the junta as if it was constituted by some other race, and shrug off all responsibility then that pisses me off big time.

But alas, "Spiritual Terrorism" against Cypriots continues.

[kimon07]

Those that deny our Hellenistic heritage or wish to deny us the right of expressing our views without being labelled everything under the sun, need to cease at once this Spiritual Terrorism committed against Cypriots.

If you MUST sell your soul and country to another country then at least have the intelligence to choose one that is willing & able to come to your aid in time of need because otherwise you will have accomplished nothing less than suicide...

So, defending the country of my historical and ethnic decend with which I share the same cultural, historical and religious identity is like "selling my soul to another country"?
What a perfect sample of a "Franco-Levantine" attitude.

Now, as for the suicide issue: The history of Hellenism is full of glorious suicide attemts and cases such as: Marathon, Thermopylai, Salamis, 1821, 1940, 1955, the NO to the Annan Plan, just to mention very few of them.

So, I suppose you are right. Suicide of this sort IS part of the Hellenic DNA. Evidently you do not have it.

PS. After Greece gained its independence, the Cretans staged 10ths of revolutions against the Ottoman Empire demanding Union with Greece, knowing that Greece was not in a position to aid them at the time as well as that the consequences of their "folly" would be severe.
Stupid of them not to sell themselves, to, lets say, the French or the Italians or Grate Britain who could aid them. Wasn’t it?

[kimon07]

Paphitis said:

I sat and listened to people who were supposed to have "fought" in Athens Polytechnic, and who cashed in their credentials and became ministers and high ranking officials,

...and multimillionaires, having devastated the economy of their country and having ruined the lives and the future of the Greek People...
And who will be the first to support a new Annan Plan if promissed further political, partial and financial gains.