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[Paphitis]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Byron, let me refresh your memories. Unlike what the Turks claim that in 1974, when Turkey was invading, there were 20,000 Greek Soldiers in Cyprus (if such would have been the case, not only Turkish troops would have never been able to land even one soldier on Cyprus, but would instead might still be swimming their way back to Turkey,) the only Greek forces that fought in Cyprus was the 1960 treaty “Eldyk” contingent of 950 soldiers and an air-transferred company of 250 commandos that came on the night of the 21 July 74; thirty of which were lost on the accidental friendly shooting of 2 of their 15 North-Atlas small plains. That was all!

That is only half of it.

My father in law told me that the coupist extremists deliberately left the CNG poorly equiped even as the Turkish Army was landing. Those few that were willing to fight had to even grab the boots from dead Turkish soldiers. That is how desperate things were.

Also, even as some were heading to confront the Turkish Army around Mia Milia, some CNG were walking in the opposite direction. We had no chance.

[Paphitis]

I also saw a documentary about The Greek Navy submarines, Nireus and Proteus. They were on their way to Cyprus, had reached Akamas, and were then ordered back to Greece. I am sure most of you are aware of the documentary I am talking about.

These 2 submarines could possibly have changed the whole outcome of the war, if they were allowed to continue on their mission in cutting the Naval supply lines. Turkey would not have been able to land any more troops, and increase their numbers from 6,000 to 40,000 troops. The whole war was a CIA staged event.

[Get Real!]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Ok Lord Byron I've waited for your response to name your battalion long enough which you're obviously unable to because it never happened...

Nobody held the Turks for three days and in fact by the end of the 2nd day (22nd of July) the Turks had already reached bloody Geunyeli! The only resistance worthy of mention was pretty much at the Nicosia airport and Mia Millia on the NE of Nicosia.

I'm not surprised you're so full of shit having studied and lived in Greece...

So you agree that we put up heavy resistence at the airport ?

What heavy resistance… if the enemy had pretty much wrapped it up in 3 days you call that resistance? Cyprus was mostly defenseless and most of the damage done to Turks was friendly fire!

Do you mean a dual operation that started on the 20th of July and ended up on the 17th of August 74, was only 3 days in your calendar, or do you mean that it lasted 3 days (20-22 July) until the fall of Kyrenia?

Am I to believe that you haven't seen a map of the Turkish military advancement stages all these decades? Within three days an entire vertical strip from Kyrenia to the northern suburbs of Nicosia was captured. That equates to “game over” no matter what petty resistance existed on the flanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o ... _of_Cyprus

[EPSILON]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Byron, let me refresh your memories. Unlike what the Turks claim that in 1974, when Turkey was invading, there were 20,000 Greek Soldiers in Cyprus (if such would have been the case, not only Turkish troops would have never been able to land even one soldier on Cyprus, but would instead might still be swimming their way back to Turkey,) the only Greek forces that fought in Cyprus was the 1960 treaty “Eldyk” contingent of 950 soldiers and an air-transferred company of 250 commandos that came on the night of the 21 July 74; thirty of which were lost on the accidental friendly shooting of 2 of their 15 Nord-Atlas small plains. That was all!

Unfortunately for G/cs this is the real story.Nocosia int airport is under UN control- Turkish army knows very well why they were unable to put a feet in it.

[Kifeas]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Ok Lord Byron I've waited for your response to name your battalion long enough which you're obviously unable to because it never happened...

Nobody held the Turks for three days and in fact by the end of the 2nd day (22nd of July) the Turks had already reached bloody Geunyeli! The only resistance worthy of mention was pretty much at the Nicosia airport and Mia Millia on the NE of Nicosia.

I'm not surprised you're so full of shit having studied and lived in Greece...

So you agree that we put up heavy resistence at the airport ?

What heavy resistance… if the enemy had pretty much wrapped it up in 3 days you call that resistance? Cyprus was mostly defenseless and most of the damage done to Turks was friendly fire!

Do you mean a dual operation that started on the 20th of July and ended up on the 17th of August 74, was only 3 days in your calendar, or do you mean that it lasted 3 days (20-22 July) until the fall of Kyrenia?

Am I to believe that you haven't seen a map of the Turkish military advancement stages all these decades? Within three days an entire vertical strip from Kyrenia to the northern suburbs of Nicosia was captured. That equates to “game over” no matter what petty resistance existed on the flanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o ... _of_Cyprus

GR, are you into some kind of an ongoing competition with someone in this forum, to prove who is the most stupid one between the two of you?

Don't you know that the entire area between the southern Kyrenia outskirts, including the in-between part of the Pentadaktilos range, and up until the northern outskirts of Nicosia, was already -since 1963, a TC stronghold enclave defended by 10,000 TC fighters, the "Tourdik" contingent that reached more than a 1,000 troops before 74, and the more than 4,000 Turkish parachutists that were dropped in it during the first 2 days of the invasion; and that all it needed for the Turkish sea-landing forces to join with it, was to capture a mere 10-15 square kilometers of territory on the Kyrenia coast, a mission that took them almost 3 full days to achieve? It did not take them 3 days to reach Nicosia, because already, 80% of the area you talk about, they used to occupy it before 1974.

[Get Real!]

Am I to believe that you haven't seen a map of the Turkish military advancement stages all these decades? Within three days an entire vertical strip from Kyrenia to the northern suburbs of Nicosia was captured. That equates to “game over” no matter what petty resistance existed on the flanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o ... _of_Cyprus

GR, are you into some kind of an ongoing competition with someone in this forum, to prove who is the most stupid one between the two of you?

Don't you know that the entire area between the southern Kyrenia outskirts, including the in-between part of the Pentadaktilos range, and up until the northern outskirts of Nicosia, was already -since 1963, a TC stronghold enclave defended by 10,000 TC fighters, the "Tourdik" contingent that reached more than a 1,000 troops before 74, and the more than 4,000 Turkish parachutists that were dropped in it during the first 2 days of the invasion; and that all it needed for the Turkish sea-landing forces to join with it, was to capture a mere 10-15 square kilometers of territory on the Kyrenia coast, a mission that took them almost 3 full days to achieve? It did not take them 3 days to reach Nicosia, because already, 80% of the area you talk about, they used to occupy it before 1974.

We're talking the Turkish army point Dexter! What difference does it make if the TC enclave sandwiched between Nicosia and Kyrenia, made it easier for them? The fact still remains that by the end of the third day the Turks reached Nicosia… end of story.

[EPSILON]

Am I to believe that you haven't seen a map of the Turkish military advancement stages all these decades? Within three days an entire vertical strip from Kyrenia to the northern suburbs of Nicosia was captured. That equates to “game over” no matter what petty resistance existed on the flanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_o ... _of_Cyprus

GR, are you into some kind of an ongoing competition with someone in this forum, to prove who is the most stupid one between the two of you?

Don't you know that the entire area between the southern Kyrenia outskirts, including the in-between part of the Pentadaktilos range, and up until the northern outskirts of Nicosia, was already -since 1963, a TC stronghold enclave defended by 10,000 TC fighters, the "Tourdik" contingent that reached more than a 1,000 troops before 74, and the more than 4,000 Turkish parachutists that were dropped in it during the first 2 days of the invasion; and that all it needed for the Turkish sea-landing forces to join with it, was to capture a mere 10-15 square kilometers of territory on the Kyrenia coast, a mission that took them almost 3 full days to achieve? It did not take them 3 days to reach Nicosia, because already, 80% of the area you talk about, they used to occupy it before 1974.

We're talking the Turkish army point Dexter! What difference does it make if the TC enclave sandwiched between Nicosia and Kyrenia, made it easier for them? The fact still remains that by the end of the third day the Turks reached Nicosia… end of story.

CORRECT. I wonder what was the reason they delayed so long - 3 days from Kyrinia to Nicosia? Maybe was the quality of the streets because i can not thing any other reason.
The other reason was only in Nicosia int airport.

[Byron]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Ok Lord Byron I've waited for your response to name your battalion long enough which you're obviously unable to because it never happened...

Nobody held the Turks for three days and in fact by the end of the 2nd day (22nd of July) the Turks had already reached bloody Geunyeli! The only resistance worthy of mention was pretty much at the Nicosia airport and Mia Millia on the NE of Nicosia.

I'm not surprised you're so full of shit having studied and lived in Greece...

So you agree that we put up heavy resistence at the airport ?

What heavy resistance… if the enemy had pretty much wrapped it up in 3 days you call that resistance? Cyprus was mostly defenseless and most of the damage done to Turks was friendly fire!

From the way you write you seem to be very young. and perhaps born after 1974. Am I right ?

[DT.]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Ok Lord Byron I've waited for your response to name your battalion long enough which you're obviously unable to because it never happened...

Nobody held the Turks for three days and in fact by the end of the 2nd day (22nd of July) the Turks had already reached bloody Geunyeli! The only resistance worthy of mention was pretty much at the Nicosia airport and Mia Millia on the NE of Nicosia.

I'm not surprised you're so full of shit having studied and lived in Greece...

So you agree that we put up heavy resistence at the airport ?

What heavy resistance… if the enemy had pretty much wrapped it up in 3 days you call that resistance? Cyprus was mostly defenseless and most of the damage done to Turks was friendly fire!

From the way you write you seem to be very young. and perhaps born after 1974. Am I right ?

thats what he told his wife before she married him

[Byron]

Byron asks:

"You cannot blame the citizens of Greece for that."

How many citizens in Greece actively resisted the junta? Remember Pattakos, a junta general, commenting on a recent interview: "it they had blown on us we would have fallen" but no one resisted, not one single police officer upheld his oath to the constitution.

But in Cyprus Byron the people resisted the junta, there was fighting from Monday July 15 1974 till Friday night when the Turks came. Cypriots apparently were more faithful to the molon lave motto than the mainlanders.

After the fall of the junta Greece is full of "resistance fighters", many of whom rose to the level of minister and even prime minister. And you wonder why Cypriots are pissed off!

Why did the GCs not help the Greeks in their hour of need? After all Cyprus had its greatest stability between those years...

Very well said !!