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[Paphitis]

It is not as if Greece was in a position to offer more assistance than this. Turkey is only 80 kms from Cyprus. How far is Greece?

Let me get this straight… are you saying that the contemporary Greek navy was unable to come to Cyprus’ aid in 1974AD yet you claim that Mycenaeans (Greek Spartans) were able to come to Cyprus in “droves” in 1600BC from 600 miles away in boats that looked like this???



Talk about the natural Greek regression…

The Greek Navy could not come to Cyprus because it was threatened by the US 6th fleet. Also, it would have broadened the war into the Aegean, and America was NEVER going to allow this.

And yes, the Greeks did make the hazardous journey to Cyprus in 1600BC and bought to Cyprus artefacts such as these...

http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/chariots.htm





I know it must be hard for you to lose an argument.

Oh right, so they came by chariots! Well that would explain a movie I once watched where the sea gets divided into two and the Mycenaean chariots race all the way to Cyprus before the sea closes in again…

So why didn’t the Greek navy use chariots in 1974… did they have a flat tire?

The Greek Merchant Marine during the Bronze Age:



The boat above was found near Cyprus!















http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/ships.htm

This is GR! with a chip(PATATA) on his shoulder:

[Get Real!]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Interesting... under which battalion did you serve?

[Nikitas]

Byron asks:

"You cannot blame the citizens of Greece for that."

How many citizens in Greece actively resisted the junta? Remember Pattakos, a junta general, commenting on a recent interview: "it they had blown on us we would have fallen" but no one resisted, not one single police officer upheld his oath to the constitution.

But in Cyprus Byron the people resisted the junta, there was fighting from Monday July 15 1974 till Friday night when the Turks came. Cypriots apparently were more faithful to the molon lave motto than the mainlanders.

After the fall of the junta Greece is full of "resistance fighters", many of whom rose to the level of minister and even prime minister. And you wonder why Cypriots are pissed off!

[Paphitis]

Those that deny our Hellenistic heritage or wish to deny us the right of expressing our views without being labelled everything under the sun, need to cease at once this Spiritual Terrorism committed against Cypriots.

If you MUST sell your soul and country to another country then at least have the intelligence to choose one that is willing & able to come to your aid in time of need because otherwise you will have accomplished nothing less than suicide...

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Unfortunately the fascist Greek government left no further arms for the military and the country was in complete turmoil. You cannot blame the citizens of Greece for that. Why do we continue to blame the Greek people for the mistakes made by a military junta. WHY ??? After the war the Greek government invited all cypriot students, and I was one, to study in Greece free !! Most educated Greeks are ashamed of the actions taken by the fascist coup but that does not mean they hate us or that they will never come to our aid. this is all pure nonsence made up by anti-hellenist greek cypriots to break a bond that has existed for over 3000 years which in my opinion will continue for ever.

One further point : Why is it that Turkish cypriots never use such abusive language when referring to Turkey ??

Perhaps you should start a new thread about your experiences fighting the Turks in Kyrenia and at Nicosia Airport.

My father in law was captured in Mia Milia. The Turkish Army was extremely brutal here. He got captured and sent to Adana. He was lucky to be alive as another 4 from his unit were marched down a ravine and moments later you could hear the machine gun fire.

I am still getting my father in law to open up about his incarceration in Adana. I can tell you it is pretty graphic.

[Get Real!]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Interesting... under which battalion did you serve?

Err... Lord Byron?

[Byron]

Byron asks:

"You cannot blame the citizens of Greece for that."

How many citizens in Greece actively resisted the junta? Remember Pattakos, a junta general, commenting on a recent interview: "it they had blown on us we would have fallen" but no one resisted, not one single police officer upheld his oath to the constitution.

But in Cyprus Byron the people resisted the junta, there was fighting from Monday July 15 1974 till Friday night when the Turks came. Cypriots apparently were more faithful to the molon lave motto than the mainlanders.

After the fall of the junta Greece is full of "resistance fighters", many of whom rose to the level of minister and even prime minister. And you wonder why Cypriots are pissed off!

Try explaining your point to the thousand of greek who were tortured or killed during the fascist regime. Maybe then you will change your mind !!

[Get Real!]

Greece did come to the aid of Cyprus in 1974, I fought with the special greek forces side by side, first in Kyrenia where 250 of us held off the Turks for 3 days -this is a fact, secondly at Nicosia airport to hold the airport, where we succeded. I can honestly tell you that no one fights light a Greek, we should be proud of our motto " molon lave " .

Ok Lord Byron I've waited for your response to name your battalion long enough which you're obviously unable to because it never happened...

Nobody held the Turks for three days and in fact by the end of the 2nd day (22nd of July) the Turks had already reached bloody Geunyeli! The only resistance worthy of mention was pretty much at the Nicosia airport and Mia Millia on the NE of Nicosia.

I'm not surprised you're so full of shit having studied and lived in Greece...

[sweetie pie]

All this talk of Greece puzzles me slightly. I have lived in Greece and experienced what the Greeks think of Cypriots. At best they are patronising towards them and at worst they regard Cypriots as country bumpkins.
Those I have spoken to have no real regard for Cyprus and just see it as an irritating little area in the Med whose people insist on hanging onto their coat tails.
Unpalatable for Cypriots I know but maybe I didn't talk to enough people over there. I became interested enough to ask as many as I could their thoughts on Cyprus and though I admit some were Cyprus friendly they were in the minority. The rest were indifferent or downright rude about Cyprus, its people and its problems and the supposed heritage between Greece and Cyprus meant absolutely nothing to them.
I am not saying this to be insulting to my Cypriot friends I suppose I am just saying that the emotions and feelings felt here in Cyprus towards the Greeks are not reciprocated generally in Greece. In my experience of course.

[repulsewarrior]

three sides to this story: Greek, Turkish and Cypriot.

i may be Greek by ethnic origin, but i am as i was a cypriot.

...but what do i know, i came from a "mixed" village.

[Get Real!]

All this talk of Greece puzzles me slightly. I have lived in Greece and experienced what the Greeks think of Cypriots. At best they are patronising towards them and at worst they regard Cypriots as country bumpkins.
Those I have spoken to have no real regard for Cyprus and just see it as an irritating little area in the Med whose people insist on hanging onto their coat tails.
Unpalatable for Cypriots I know but maybe I didn't talk to enough people over there. I became interested enough to ask as many as I could their thoughts on Cyprus and though I admit some were Cyprus friendly they were in the minority. The rest were indifferent or downright rude about Cyprus, its people and its problems and the supposed heritage between Greece and Cyprus meant absolutely nothing to them.
I am not saying this to be insulting to my Cypriot friends I suppose I am just saying that the emotions and feelings felt here in Cyprus towards the Greeks are not reciprocated generally in Greece. In my experience of course.

Thanks for telling it like it is...