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[zan]

What is all the fuss....I didn't answer because the article doesn't say very much as proved by it's conclusion "By searching in Cyprus’ past, we will find neither a ‘Cyprus people’ nor ‘two people’. We thus need to turn our faces towards the future".

We are looking into the future.........As a people not represented in any way by the "RoC" we want our autonomy.

With respect, I would say that you are one of those who look into the past and conclude that there are two peoples.

You mean REALITY......Those that ONLY look into the future are liable to get a stiff neck......Constantly sticking your hand into the fire to see if you were right the first time, that it bloody hurt, is a fools paradise.

[halil]

Just hoping TİM DRAYTON will translate below article from Niyazi Kızılyürek .

http://www.yeniduzengazetesi.com/templa ... &zoneid=17

[Bananiot]

Tim, Niazi will speak on Kemalism tonight in Nicosia. Will you be there?

[DT.]

Tim, Niazi will speak on Kemalism tonight in Nicosia. Will you be there?

you going Bananiot?

[Bananiot]

Probably, will you be interested? 7:30 pm at the Journalists Home, Aglantzia.

[DT.]

might do

[Bananiot]

Okay, may be I´ll see you there.

[Kifeas]

might do

To those going to the meeting tonight, I would kindly ask to place the following question(s,) and then let us know what answers you will get.

Kemalism is a totalitarian ideology, in the sense that it places the state in the center of everything, and the citizens (people) in the role of serving its interests (etatism=statism,) instead of the other way around, i.e. the state being in the service of its citizens, their wellbeing and development; allowing in this way the development and maintenance of a corporatist and a militaristic state of affairs and practices, besides the 3rd world “cult of personality” practice around Ataturk’s name and image.

Furthermore, kemalism is also a Turkish nationalistic ideology, evolving around the doctrine “one state, one language, one nation, one flag,” allowing in this way the suppression and violation of fundamental cultural rights of the country’s various ethnic and religious groups such as Kurds, Alevies, etc.

In view of the above, to what extent such an ideology is compatible with modern EU democratic and multicultural practices?

And furthermore, to what extent such an ideology is compatible with a BBF reunified Cyprus, at a constituent state level, in view of the fact that the two states will have to accommodate citizens from both Cypriot communities?

PS: Kemalism was an ideology the TCs tried and succeeded to import in the Annan plan, at the level of the TC constituent state.

[Oracle]

Furthermore, kemalism is also a Turkish nationalistic ideology, evolving around the doctrine “one state, one language, one nation, one flag,” allowing in this way the suppression and violation of fundamental cultural rights of the country’s various ethnic and religious groups such as Kurds, Alevies, etc.

How did they get around this violation, since the TCs (and Settlers) have their own "TRNC" flag?

Do the Kemalists not view the TCs as Turkish?

[Nikitas]

Interesting juxtaposition to a Kemalist constituent state would have been the assertion by the GC side in the Annan plan to for the GC state to adopt the "Kypros Kyprion Christianon" motto. For non Greek speakers, it reflects the rallying cry of the Junta, Greece of Christian Greeks, instead it would be Cyprus of Christian Cypriots with all the attendan nationalist stuff.

Naturally it would have been a humorous attempt, just to see Lord Hannay's face when a counter kemalist position was proposed. That is where we went wrong with Hannay, we did no pull his leg enough. Instead we allowed him to pull ours.