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[doesntmatter]

Greek citizens with Turkish ethnicity. We don't have a problem calling our minority Greek but Turkish minority in GRE can't call themselves Turk. It's forbidden. Turks in Macedonia, Kosova, Bulgaria can talk about their ethnicity without any problems but it's not the case in Greece.

Perhaps they are weary of your history of elevating minorities into breakaway republics.

Surely you don't mean like in Crete, do you?

[DT.]

Greek citizens with Turkish ethnicity. We don't have a problem calling our minority Greek but Turkish minority in GRE can't call themselves Turk. It's forbidden. Turks in Macedonia, Kosova, Bulgaria can talk about their ethnicity without any problems but it's not the case in Greece.

Perhaps they are weary of your history of elevating minorities into breakaway republics.

Surely you don't mean like in Crete, do you?

Was talking about Cyprus but while we're on the subject I must congratulate you on the liberal manner in which you've managed to make the Greek populations in Izmir and Istanbul flourish. There should be at least 2-3000 Greeks left?

[doesntmatter]

Greek citizens with Turkish ethnicity. We don't have a problem calling our minority Greek but Turkish minority in GRE can't call themselves Turk. It's forbidden. Turks in Macedonia, Kosova, Bulgaria can talk about their ethnicity without any problems but it's not the case in Greece.

Perhaps they are weary of your history of elevating minorities into breakaway republics.

Surely you don't mean like in Crete, do you?

Was talking about Cyprus

Yes, I know, anything else that you Greeks did does not fit in to your propaganda, not even what you did from 1963 to 1974.

but while we're on the subject I must congratulate you on the liberal manner in which you've managed to make the Greek populations in Izmir and Istanbul flourish. There should be at least 2-3000 Greeks left?

At least they are still Greeks by choice and not Orthodox Turks by force.

[runaway]

As I told you they are Turkish citizens with Greek background and minority in Western Thrace are TURK like it or not. But Greece has to accept it as a member of EU and stop forbidding such organizations taking up the name "Turkish teachers Union" etc.

[DT.]

As I told you they are Turkish citizens with Greek background and minority in Western Thrace are TURK like it or not. But Greece has to accept it as a member of EU and stop forbidding such organizations taking up the name "Turkish teachers Union" etc.

So while they were chasing them out of Istanbul they were calling them Greeks of Turkey and thats allright then

[saravakos]

After what happened in Smyrna you can say nothing.

[runaway]

First of all you have use international names of cities. The city you are talking about is called Izmir. I am not supposed to know what Smyrna means. What happened in Izmir??? Are you talking about our war of independence in 1922? Greece invaded Turkish land after the collapse of Ottoman Empire and we got our land back? So what's the deal?

We are in 2009 and a minority in a EU member country doesn't have an identity. It's incredible. They are called after their religion and not etnicity.

[kurupetos]

First of all you have use international names of cities. The city you are talking about is called Izmir. I am not supposed to know what Smyrna means. What happened in Izmir??? Are you talking about our war of independence in 1922? Greece invaded Turkish land after the collapse of Ottoman Empire and we got our land back? So what's the deal?

We are in 2009 and a minority in a EU member country doesn't have an identity. It's incredible. They are called after their religion and not etnicity.

What a load of bollocks. Let's take this crap step-by-step:

You talk about a war of independence in 1922 Independence from who?
If the Ottoman empire was something different than Turkey as you claim then all the land comprising the ottoman empire could be claimed by any other country. Therefore Greece did not invade turkish land but ottoman land which was primarily populated by Greeks (Smyrna, etc.). All those people were either murdered or expelled by force (ethnic cleansing). As long as the muslim minority of Greece is concerned they are greek nationals. If they want to become Turks they can immigrate to Turkey.

[kurupetos]

We are in 2009 and a minority in a EU member country doesn't have an identity. It's incredible. They are called after their religion and not etnicity.

We are in 2009 and a majority in an EU member country doesn't have the right to return to their homes. It's incredible.

[runaway]

You talk about a war of independence in 1922 Independence from who?
If the Ottoman empire was something different than Turkey as you claim then all the land comprising the ottoman empire could be claimed by any other country. Therefore Greece did not invade turkish land but ottoman land which was primarily populated by Greeks (Smyrna, etc.). All those people were either murdered or expelled by force (ethnic cleansing). As long as the muslim minority of Greece is concerned they are greek nationals. If they want to become Turks they can immigrate to Turkey. [/quote]

War of independence against imperial powers and their supporters UK,France,Italy,Greece. Modern Turkey is found after this war of independence.Learn some history first.

You wish Turks in Western Thrace and Cyprus leave their homelands. I don't want to disappoint you but that will never happen. You don't get the point at all do you? People can be Greek nationals but their ethnic origins may be different as in the case with Turks in Thrace.They are as Turk as the ones in Kosova,Macedonia,Bulgaria and they deserve the same rights. Greece has a lot of things to learn from those countries that they look down at.