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[Oracle]

Quality of Posts Warning ....





Insan is seriously stretching the good nature of the forum which allows many a TC half-wit to participate!

Good mannerly trying to avoid a linkus-interruptus, I must now say, as cigarettes are no doubt been puffed, that christos1 had the necessary rhythm necessary for pleasing the audience ... whilst fantasy flower fairy insan merely resorted to links from such dubious sources as TOPIX
... and the little barista insan had the benefit of 20 Googling computers to (failingly) - counter (?) a phenomenal performance of worthy posts by christos1.

I hereby declare christos1 "Chief Turkey-Baster"!

[growuptcs]

Democracy and Conflict Management

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By
Timothy D. Sisk

August 2003


http://peacestudies.conflictresearch.or ... /?nid=1353

This one is especially dedicated for embryonic apes to read.

Majority rule can mean majority tyranny.

The Kurds would whole heartedly agree with that statement above.

The fact is that in Turkey, almost majority of the ruling elite consists of Kurds of Turkey.(MPs, Wealthy Kurdish businessman and huge horde owners in Anatolia.)

Are you implying its ok to give some rights to a few Kurds(minority), and violate the rest of the majority of Kurds with your statement?

[christos1]

Democracy and Conflict Management

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By
Timothy D. Sisk

August 2003


http://peacestudies.conflictresearch.or ... /?nid=1353

This one is especially dedicated for embryonic apes to read.

Majority rule can mean majority tyranny.

The Kurds would whole heartedly agree with that statement above.

The fact is that in Turkey,

They bread 4 to 1 Turk that is the only fact you need to know. If Turkey was smart, it would have given a small portion of land for Kurdish self rule. Turkey will suffer the same fate of Israel. Israel press state that in 10 years, Israel will have a majority of arab people. Too much greed isnt good. And you, Zan should know by now that what goes around, come around. I have clearly shown you that in this thread.

[insan]

Unlike the noble Lord, Lord Caradon, I believe that we must look into the past in order to understand what is likely to be acceptable for any final settlement. I do not intend to delay your Lordships very long with this matter, but I want to mention very briefly five points. First, as stated by the noble Lord, there is the feeling of total insecurity by Turkish Cypriots as the result of the attacks on them in 1963, 1967 and 1974. Secondly, there is the failure of the Government of Cyprus to deal with the refugee problems of the Turkish Cypriots. There have been 25,000 refugees since 1963, and the fact is that that Government refused to supply the building materials required to rehouse those refugees but instead declared the materials to be of strategic importance and therefore prohibited. Thirdly, there is the ruling by the Government of Cyprus in 1964 which stopped the registration of any transfers of land to Turkish Cypriots. 881 Fourthly, there is the breakdown of the Constitution from 1964 onwards and the failure of the Guarantor Powers to prevent that happening. Fifthly, there is the fact that in July 1974 there were five days of brutal massacres of both Turkish and Greek Cypriots by Greek extremists under Sampson before the Turkish Army arrived to stop the fighting.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lord ... 08_HOL_148

[Oracle]

Unlike the noble Lord, Lord Caradon, I believe that we must look into the past in order to understand what is likely to be acceptable for any final settlement. I do not intend to delay your Lordships very long with this matter, but I want to mention very briefly five points. First, as stated by the noble Lord, there is the feeling of total insecurity by Turkish Cypriots as the result of the attacks on them in 1963, 1967 and 1974. Secondly, there is the failure of the Government of Cyprus to deal with the refugee problems of the Turkish Cypriots. There have been 25,000 refugees since 1963, and the fact is that that Government refused to supply the building materials required to rehouse those refugees but instead declared the materials to be of strategic importance and therefore prohibited. Thirdly, there is the ruling by the Government of Cyprus in 1964 which stopped the registration of any transfers of land to Turkish Cypriots. 881 Fourthly, there is the breakdown of the Constitution from 1964 onwards and the failure of the Guarantor Powers to prevent that happening. Fifthly, there is the fact that in July 1974 there were five days of brutal massacres of both Turkish and Greek Cypriots by Greek extremists under Sampson before the Turkish Army arrived to stop the fighting.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lord ... 08_HOL_148

You have to excuse this drunk ... this is what he said further down:

Fourthly—and I think that this is the most important of the five points that I have mentioned—there is the failure of the three Guarantor Powers to carry out their guarantee to preserve the 1960 Constitution.

[insan]

My Lords, it is true that in the 15-odd years during which Cyprus has been independent, the President of the island, Archbishop Makarios, has had one problem after the other in which he has been 958 in extreme difficulty in trying to control certain wild men in Ms midst. To start with there was the leader of EOKA, General Grivas, then certain of his followers who were taking unilateral action against the Turks and who were planning a different solution from that agreed between the three guarantor powers— Britain, Turkey and Greece— in the Zurich agreement. There was a genuine fear in the minds of many Turks that a Cyprus would emerge from the conflict: in which they would have no place. Those fears were fostered by a number of incidents, particularly those of 1963-1964, during which many Turks were killed by extremists on the Greek side, and by a succession of incidents in which it is difficult to say in a few words which side was guilty. One has heard a mass of evidence on both sides, but one can simply conclude that there was communal strife and a large degree of violence which was only with great difficulty scotched by the introduction of United Nations Forces and by the uneasy peace which those Forces imposed on the island for a number of years. I wish, therefore, to preface my remarks by saying that I understand the feelings of the Turkish Cypriots and the grievances which they feel they have nursed for the last decade or so, and the feeling that they have been treated to some extent like second-class citizens. One could argue this for many hours, but this is the way many of them have felt and this is a small part of the background to the present tragedy and one that must be borne in mind.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lord ... 26_HOL_202

[christos1]

Turkey runs, Turkey hides, Turkey guilty of Genocide

http://www.atour.com/~aahgn/news/20010510e.html

[christos1]

International panel finds Turkey guilty of linguistic genocide

http://www.wfn.org/1999/05/msg00039.html

[insan]

Unlike the noble Lord, Lord Caradon, I believe that we must look into the past in order to understand what is likely to be acceptable for any final settlement. I do not intend to delay your Lordships very long with this matter, but I want to mention very briefly five points. First, as stated by the noble Lord, there is the feeling of total insecurity by Turkish Cypriots as the result of the attacks on them in 1963, 1967 and 1974. Secondly, there is the failure of the Government of Cyprus to deal with the refugee problems of the Turkish Cypriots. There have been 25,000 refugees since 1963, and the fact is that that Government refused to supply the building materials required to rehouse those refugees but instead declared the materials to be of strategic importance and therefore prohibited. Thirdly, there is the ruling by the Government of Cyprus in 1964 which stopped the registration of any transfers of land to Turkish Cypriots. 881 Fourthly, there is the breakdown of the Constitution from 1964 onwards and the failure of the Guarantor Powers to prevent that happening. Fifthly, there is the fact that in July 1974 there were five days of brutal massacres of both Turkish and Greek Cypriots by Greek extremists under Sampson before the Turkish Army arrived to stop the fighting.

http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/lord ... 08_HOL_148

You have to excuse this drunk ... this is what he said further down:

Fourthly—and I think that this is the most important of the five points that I have mentioned—there is the failure of the three Guarantor Powers to carry out their guarantee to preserve the 1960 Constitution.

Facts r facts. What's wrong with it, ma retarded, senile old lady? Greece and her paramilitary forces have a great share on that failure.

[christos1]

Pair guilty of 'insulting Turkey'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7040171.stm
Hrant Dink's funeral became a day of great emotion
The son of murdered Turkish-Armenian writer Hrant Dink has been found guilty of insulting "Turkishness", along with another newspaper editor.

Arat Dink and Serkis Seropyan were convicted after printing Dink's claims that the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks from 1915 was genocide