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[Piratis]

You are the first one who puts the words "strong" and "Annan plan" in the same phrase.
It has been characterized as loose federation, loose confederation, and a more precise term: loose association.
I would call it disguised partition.

If you do not accept that while in your own federal state you will be the majority in the whole Cyprus you are in fact a minority, then no solution can be found.

A federation is a compromise between a unitary state and partition. We accepted that you can have your own federal state within which you can always be the majority. This is a huge compromise from our part and you should give up your demands for a disguised partition and accept it. We will not make any further compromises. This should be clear.

Stop thinking what you want and start thinking what you can accept. If we all start saying what we want we will never agree. This is why I don't even say anything about what I think would be ideal.

[PEACE]

If you do not accept that while in your own federal state you will be the majority in the whole Cyprus

I'm not talking about being a majority in the whole Cyprus.I'm talking being approximately equal ! I'm talking about politic equality of two communities in common state.

[Piratis]

What you are asking is beyond democracy and will never be accepted.
It is like telling me that a party that got 18% in elections should get 50% of the seats in the parliament.

We have some Greek Cypriots that are still living in the north. How about giving them 50% of your parliament seats and rotating presidency?

With such demands that you have we will never agree.

[PEACE]

As i said before you are confusing this two:
Minority in number
Minority in polical rights!

We are minority in number but we are NOT a minority in political rights!

We said YES to Annan Plan which is UN's plan that world supports it !
We won't accept anything because you wanted !

We said 65% to Annan Plan which contains what i'm saying...
Any solution that accepts that we have minority rights will be rejected! Its clear !

[Piratis]

We are minority in number but we are NOT a minority in political rights!

Here I am 1 person now. I am just 1/800.000 minority, but I don't want to be minority in political rights. So lets share Cyprus. 33.33% for other GC, 33.33% for TC and 33.33% for me. ok?

Hey, my neighbor just called. He doesn't want to be minority either. So, lets calculate it again: 25% for me, 25% for him, 25% for GC, and 25% for TC. ok?

oh wait ... my grandfather enter the room just now ... and my aunt also. They don't want to be a minority either...

In democracy all citizens have equal political rights. If your 18% gets 50% of power in power sharing this means I get much less than the 1/800.000 I deserve. This is out of the question. NO WAY. NEVER. Get it?

[PEACE]

Hey Piratis you are so fast in replying !

NO i didn't get it cos your example is not the subject !

Your minority example and definiton is so different with our situation!

Here there is two different community from different nation ! I prefer to not to say this but it seems that you can't realize the difference if i don't say these!

Anyway...
and Turkish Cypriot community wants to live as a Turkish Cypriot ! So we want some regulations to protect our identity and to not to be earased from this island !

We don't want to get lost in Greek Cypriot community!

Now question!
You got it?

I'm sure NOT.Cos its not to your benefit!

[Piratis]

I got it very well. You want two separate states, to keep the land you stole, and if possible take some of our money and the entry to the EU you didn't had to work for.

[PEACE]

I got it very well. You want two separate states, to keep the land you stole, and if possible take some of our money and the entry to the EU you didn't had to work for.

If what i said means these for you yes you are right! Everything is like what you think!

[CYtr]

Diplomatic sources speak of a second referendum
Would a new referendum be wellcome?

yes

[X-ite]

We don't want to get lost in Greek Cypriot community!

Why are you so scared of being swamped by us? Piratis was right, one individual is as good as another. Can you please explain to me what your special political needs are?