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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:30 am

That is exactly what it is saying GR, read the quote again, it is saying the Greeks adapted it, not the Cypriots.

GR, Cyprus never had an alphabet. The Greek alphabet was the first in Europe, and was based on the Phoenicians. It had nothing to do with the Cypriot script. Are you saying the Greek language didn't exist until the Mycenaeans arrived in Cyprus? Come on GR, even you (by your standards) are stretching your imagination now. :lol: There is clear evidence of Mycenaean Greek before they even settled on Cyprus, through Linear B. They just adapted the Cypro-Minoan script for them to use. I have never heard any expert in this field argue that the Greek language originated in Cyprus, have you?
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:38 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:The list is endless no matter if its modern or ancient Greek discoveries. What can our Turkish amigos bring to the table? What contributions have ottomans or modern turks done for the world? I want to hear their voices in this discussion too


There's no doubt Turks throughout their history contributed a lot to humanity. However, usually Turks have no such arrogant habit as modern Greeks have; amusing themselves with what their ancestors or so-called ancestors contributed to humanity.

It is too funny to compete, discuss or calculate which son of Adam and Eve contributed how much to civilization of human beings.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:41 am

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I was going to respond to you in Cypriot Simon but it hasn't worked... :(

But anyway, I just LOVE my new Cypriot font! :D

Just click on cypriot.zip from here…

http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub//tex-archi ... s/archaic/
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Postby Hatter » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:42 am

insan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:The list is endless no matter if its modern or ancient Greek discoveries. What can our Turkish amigos bring to the table? What contributions have ottomans or modern turks done for the world? I want to hear their voices in this discussion too


There's no doubt Turks throughout their history contributed a lot to humanity ...


Can you give us some examples, of these contributions?
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:55 am

GR,

I can't seem to open all of it, but from the parts that I have, I can't really see where I'm contradicted. It doesn't tell us anything that we don't already know. I understand that the Cypriot script was used to write Greek well before the Greek alphabet was invented, but so was Linear B, which is older, but related to the Cypriot script, as they both derived from Linear A (Minoan). And Linear B was Greek. What you sent me also states that the Cypriot script is not related to the later Greek alphabet. The Mycenaeans obviously took their Greek language with them to Cyprus, or else why was there a need to adapt the Cypriot script to suit them, and what language were they speaking before they came to Cyprus? There is clear recorded evidence that Mycenaeans spoke Greek before they went to Cyprus, and like I said, there is no evidence for this suggestion that the Greek language originated in Cyprus. It is just not credible.
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Postby Hatter » Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:14 am

Hatter wrote:
insan wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:The list is endless no matter if its modern or ancient Greek discoveries. What can our Turkish amigos bring to the table? What contributions have ottomans or modern turks done for the world? I want to hear their voices in this discussion too


There's no doubt Turks throughout their history contributed a lot to humanity ...


Can you give us some examples, of these contributions?



In your own time, Insan. You might want to start another topic thread on this, so that we avoid a splice to this thread, out of courtesy to the participants. Up to you.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:49 pm

Moments in the History of Theatre

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1. The Rites of Dionysus, 1200–600 BC

Annual rites to the god of wine and revelry were held each spring, and involved orgies, feasts and the ingestion of herbs that led to wild ecstasies. A dithyramb (ode to Dionysus) was sung by a chorus of men dressed as satyrs. It eventually evolved into narratives, which in turn developed into the first plays.

2. Thespis, 6th century BC

During one of these group chorales, an intrepid performer named Thespis broke away from the group and added a solo narrative. The innovation took hold, and the new individual role was known as the protagonist, the individual hero of the drama, now backed by the chorus.

3. Drama Competitions, 534 BC

In 534 BC, the ruler of Athens, Pisistratus, formalized the Dionysan festivals into fully fledged drama competitions, held annually. Thespis won the first competition.

4. Aeschylus, the First Playwright, 472 BC

To the protagonist, Aeschylus introduced a second character, the antagonist, creating new possibilities. Then in 472 BC came Persians , the earliest known play.

5. Sophocles Beats Aeschylus in the Drama Competition, 468 BC

Sophocles brought another innovation to the blossoming form of drama – a third character. He also wrote what is still considered the greatest masterpiece of tragedy, Oedipus Rex .

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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:32 pm

How about western philosophy?

[quote]Western Philosophy is generally said to begin in the Greek cities of western Asia Minor (Ionia) with Thales of Miletus, who was active around 585 B.C. and left us the opaque dictum, "all is water." His most noted students were Anaximenes of Miletus ("all is air") and Anaximander (all is apeiron).

Other thinkers and schools appeared throughout Greece over the next couple of centuries. Among the most important were Heraclitus ("all is fire", all is chaotic and transitory), Anaxagoras (reality is so ordered that it must be in all respects governed by mind), the Pluralists and Atomists (the world is composite of innumerable interacting parts), the Eleatics Parmenides and Zeno (all is One and change is impossible), the Sophists (became known, perhaps unjustly, for claiming that truth was no more than opinion and for teaching people to argue fallaciously to prove whatever conclusions they wished). This whole movement gradually became more concentrated in Athens, which had become the dominant city-state in Greece.[/quote]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of ... philosophy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_philosophy
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Postby Simon » Wed Apr 01, 2009 7:35 pm

Or the cradle of Western Civilisation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Athens
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