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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:07 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:Palio my friend, having seen your response to the other post, I better warn you against taking with you any PORK containing food. The settlers in Karpasia are worse than the Afganis. Be warned. :lol: :lol:


seriously?? what is it of their business what i eat? maybe ill take nothing but big meat lol eat it right infront of them :D lol jk

so the restorants what do they serve?

ill probably take a few sandwiches maybe a burger or two


They serve Lahmacun and kebabs. The lahmacuns are delicious.

Your driver might stop (I think he will) at Rizokarpaso at a Greek Cypriot Kafenion for refreshments.

Isn't there a kahve there called Michaelin kahvesi?
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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:10 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:tourism in that small village? mosque or no mosque it wont help...

am going to apostolos antreas tomorrow it will be the first time i ever go that far into the north... of course we will take our own food and not buy anything over there :D


Deniz ,
Young generation of The GC's ......... Think again what the TC's thinks when they hear such a words . Such a words comes out from the young boy and they will live together at united Cyprus .

I wonder, If his TC friends does same thing when they passing to south .
I bet they don't .here is the our differences Palio .


yes but oits one to go into the north and accept a partitioned land by giving them money and another to say buy froma turkish cypriot shop when re united.. if the land was re united i would have no problem going into any turkish cypriot shop and buying anything from food to electronics to whatever took my fancy.. but not like this when we have turkish troops dividing our island by force

Look at it another way, if you don't buy from TC shops then more TCs will leave from Cyprus, so you are actually helping towards partition, where as if you buy, you are helping the TCs stay which can't be a bad thing.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:13 pm

i will have to try one then if he does stop
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:36 pm

paliometoxo wrote:i will have to try one then if he does stop



Well, if he is a GC driver, he will have stashed on board a five course meal for his passengers, including some late melons, halloumi, Cyprus coffee, microwave klwftiko with sheftalia and bakalava's and karydaki, all washed down with Hadjipavlou and Keo beverages. :lol:


Take two cameras with spare batteries. Tell him to stop at the Artemis Holiday resort too. :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:45 pm

I'm not pious but I do respect the tradition of the Greek Orthodox Church which has served to keep our historic records and guide us in resisting the Turkish barbarians over the centuries.

Its endurance is uncontested and for those who can get BBC iplayer, here is yesterday's fantastic documentary on the history of Orthodoxy and the nasty usurpations by the evil Turks ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0 ... to_Empire/
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:46 pm

im not much of a drinker but the rest sounds nice :D we will see i guess where they take us i rather take the car and drive but i would get lost.. going to my friends house he lives literally 2 seconds away fromt he green line at ledra palace so i just walk to his house but so far in the north i would be lost in trnc for days if i went on my own lol.

yes two cameras one my 5mp camera on my phone and another 12mp one digital camera hopefully my brother will let me take it. cell phone battery wont last long enough.. will paste some pics if i take anything intresting heh.

artemis holiday resort? i will tell him. we are leaving from 6am :O i dont know why we need to leave so early from nicosia
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:46 pm

YFred wrote:
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Tim Drayton wrote:I think the mosque is the two-story building whose walls have been painted a peach colour. This is clearly a separate and much newer construction.

Trust Oracle to get the wrong end of the stick and jump the gun in one post. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Unfortunately Oracle was not far off the mark Yfred.

I saw a program on TV (UK) which showed the gradual eradication of Armenian culture in the lake Van district.

The areas around the lake was once inhabited by Armenians and was littered with churches and monasteries. By a series of photographs you couls see how these religious buildings were slowly but surely eradicated. While watching the destruction of these buildings someone walked into the TV room and noticed it. I changed chanels immediately. We had just come from our last Turkish holiday. It was embarrassing to say the least.
These were carved stone buildings, so we cannot blame weathering. Just like the stone mosque in our village. It wasnt the weather but human hands. I am sure with your skill at search you might find clips on You Tube.


About six years ago I was in Digor sub-province in Kars, close to the border with present-day Armenia. I was looking for a place called Beş Kilise (Five Churches) where five ancient Armenian churches stood together in a remote valley. We found a local shepherd who took us cross country to the right place. When we got there, he said, "This was where the churches used to be, but people kept on taking the stones to build houses and now there is nothing left."



Thats it TIM Bes Kilise. That was what the program included. One wonders if there was any tacit approval by the gov. of the goings on.



Standard practice of any country, it's called recycling. The Egyptians did the same with the marble of the Pyramids. As much as we would to look for scapegoats, the explanation is probably because it was easier and cheaper to do that than pay for new materials. It’s only when the value to these structures are realised that people stop that sort of practice.



Damn!!! :evil: . I never thought of that. From now on we cant accuse the GC's of pulling down our mosques - they are simply recycling. We will get it right one day. :? :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:54 pm

paliometoxo wrote:im not much of a drinker but the rest sounds nice :D we will see i guess where they take us i rather take the car and drive but i would get lost.. going to my friends house he lives literally 2 seconds away fromt he green line at ledra palace so i just walk to his house but so far in the north i would be lost in trnc for days if i went on my own lol.

yes two cameras one my 5mp camera on my phone and another 12mp one digital camera hopefully my brother will let me take it. cell phone battery wont last long enough.. will paste some pics if i take anything intresting heh.

artemis holiday resort? i will tell him. we are leaving from 6am :O i dont know why we need to leave so early from nicosia


The road to Karpasia is a bit slow where it passes through some villages. Slow driving is better, so that you can enjoy the beauty of the area. Take a note book too. You can jot down the original names of the villages you pass through.

Anyway, the earlier you leave the more you can enjoy.

Have a great time.
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Postby YFred » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:14 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:I think the mosque is the two-story building whose walls have been painted a peach colour. This is clearly a separate and much newer construction.

Trust Oracle to get the wrong end of the stick and jump the gun in one post. :lol: :lol: :lol:



Unfortunately Oracle was not far off the mark Yfred.

I saw a program on TV (UK) which showed the gradual eradication of Armenian culture in the lake Van district.

The areas around the lake was once inhabited by Armenians and was littered with churches and monasteries. By a series of photographs you couls see how these religious buildings were slowly but surely eradicated. While watching the destruction of these buildings someone walked into the TV room and noticed it. I changed chanels immediately. We had just come from our last Turkish holiday. It was embarrassing to say the least.
These were carved stone buildings, so we cannot blame weathering. Just like the stone mosque in our village. It wasnt the weather but human hands. I am sure with your skill at search you might find clips on You Tube.


About six years ago I was in Digor sub-province in Kars, close to the border with present-day Armenia. I was looking for a place called Beş Kilise (Five Churches) where five ancient Armenian churches stood together in a remote valley. We found a local shepherd who took us cross country to the right place. When we got there, he said, "This was where the churches used to be, but people kept on taking the stones to build houses and now there is nothing left."



Thats it TIM Bes Kilise. That was what the program included. One wonders if there was any tacit approval by the gov. of the goings on.



Standard practice of any country, it's called recycling. The Egyptians did the same with the marble of the Pyramids. As much as we would to look for scapegoats, the explanation is probably because it was easier and cheaper to do that than pay for new materials. It’s only when the value to these structures are realised that people stop that sort of practice.



Damn!!! :evil: . I never thought of that. From now on we cant accuse the GC's of pulling down our mosques - they are simply recycling. We will get it right one day. :? :roll:

There is a difference between gradual demilotion of a building for building material purposes and left to ruin by nature and complete demolition by a JCB and then building a car park on it the next day. The two are not the same. Are they?
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Postby halil » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:17 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:tourism in that small village? mosque or no mosque it wont help...

am going to apostolos antreas tomorrow it will be the first time i ever go that far into the north... of course we will take our own food and not buy anything over there :D


Deniz ,
Young generation of The GC's ......... Think again what the TC's thinks when they hear such a words . Such a words comes out from the young boy and they will live together at united Cyprus .

I wonder, If his TC friends does same thing when they passing to south .
I bet they don't .here is the our differences Palio .


yes but oits one to go into the north and accept a partitioned land by giving them money and another to say buy froma turkish cypriot shop when re united.. if the land was re united i would have no problem going into any turkish cypriot shop and buying anything from food to electronics to whatever took my fancy.. but not like this when we have turkish troops dividing our island by force


Palio , I don't accept your excuse .
Partition is not the fault of the ordinary people of Turks or Greeks .
If our kids behaves the way u are thinking they will never , ever come together .Same things applies for TC's if they thinks the way u are thinking they shouldn't buy anything from GC's shops .They should choose such a way to get your money and not spend .single penny from their wages . But we the TC's (majority of U-us) does not thinking like u Palio .We do trade we our GC's shop holders in Nicosia . These are builds up the trust between 2 sides.

@ Deniz ,
There is alots of restaurants on thw way to Karpasia . (Lots of fish and continantal restaurants)
I don't think peoples of karpasia shares same culture as Afgans .

I advise to Palio to just pop in one of the coffee shops in Rizokarpasia and he will get good chance to obser those people also there is a Greek Cypriot family shop in the village if he doesn't want to give his money to Turkish people at least he can support his own people and he will have chance to obser those people living from one coıffe shop balcony to other.
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