am not going to get into the legality question. in any case i dont really believe in international laws.
You are still trying to redifine the de-fact situation as legal or illegal. De-facto means de-facto.
i tottaly agree with you on the realities though. u r right about the fear that sampson caused.
The fear that Sampson caused? Was he alone? Who were behind and beside him giving orders and helping to him from 55' and onwards untill 1974 and even until 1978? Who forced Makarios to sign the amnesty for all Eoka-B members who were active and still were threatining Makarios until 1978?
The facts is not that simple my friend?
i also agree that we have to face the realities (right or wrong) that turkeish army is here and will leave only with a solution.
Turkish army is in Cyprus and Greece army is not?
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Let's see what this looks like graphically.
Slide 3. Current Order of Battle
-- Turkish Army corps with approximately 30,000 soldiers
-- Turkish Cypriot Security Force with about 4,000 soldiers
-- UNFICYP controlling the buffer zone with approximately 1,250 military and civilian personnel from 20 different countries
-- Greek Army armored brigade of about 4,000
-- Greek Cypriot National Guard with about 15,000 soldiers, some of which are from Greece, plus a ready reserve force of 35,000 soldiers
The result is a total force of 54,000 soldiers actively engaged in the defense and protection of Cyprus and its two communities.
Securing the Peace
by Col. Stephen R. Norton, U.S. Army, Ret.
Delivered at a Western Policy Center conference
"A Cyprus Settlement in 2004? Policy Implications in Turkey, NATO, and the EU"
St. Regis Hotel, Washington, D.C.
February 26, 2004
http://www.westernpolicy.org/Conference ... tation.asp
Greece currently has 4000 plus soldiers in South of Cyprus. Why 4000 + and not more? Do you think if she has a huge army like Turk's she wouldn't have stationed more troops in the South of Cyprus? Do you thi
nk that if TCs have had 15000 soldiers and 35000 ready reserve force Turkey would have stationed 35000 soldiers in North of Cyprus?
One way or another both parties have been violating the international laws, treaties and constitution of RoC from 63 and onwards.
but please,
dont tell me that the operation had the only purpose the tcs.
turkey served also its geostrategic plans with the excuse we gave.
It wasn't an excuse for Turkey. It was cristal clear that both parties exerted all their efforts to get what they want on Cyprus. It was a 2 legged war game played on Cyprus.
1- The political leg: Played by the then politicians of Turks, Hellenes, Allies and Russia.
2- The underground leg: Played by the then politicians of Turks, Hellenes, Allies, Russia, underground organizations of Turks and Hellenes and secret services of world's super powers.
Moreover, do you think that geo-strategically Cyprus is less important for Greece than Turkey? Then you are missing the whole point in this age of globalization and new world order.
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[06] Greece is here, Stephanopoulos tells Archbishop
Nicosia, Jun 25 (CNA) -- Greek President Costis Stephanopoulos reassured the people of Cyprus in a most emphatic manner that Greece will stand by Cyprus in its struggle for freedom and justice and will assist the Republic in facing Turkish threats.
In a thinly veiled warning to Turkey, the Greek President told his neighbouring country that its shores are too close to the Greek islands in the Aegean and not the other way round.
"Greece is here because Cyprus is Greece," Stephanopoulos told the Primate of the Church of Cyprus, Archbishop Chrysostomos, when the latter welcomed him at the Archbishopric Palace.
The Greek President, who arrived here today for a four-day official visit, said "Greece is here not as an ally or even a supporter but because Cyprus is Greece."
He noted that Greece has not only legal but also moral, national and patriotic obligations to Cyprus, which it will not relinquish.
"Greece and Cyprus are not two separate entities, they are not two separate nations, they are one nation, two states," he stressed, noting that common goals makes them identify with each other in their objectives.
Greece, he said, aims to secure not only its territorial integrity and that of Cyprus but also its national dignity and pride.
"Under these circumstances, the joint defence pact will continue to exist from Thrace to Cyprus, where hellenism is under pressure and faces expansionist disposition," Stephanopoulos said.
He underlined that the struggle for justice will not be concluded unless Cyprus is vindicated, explaining that Greece and Cyprus have their love for their country and their just cause as weapons in this struggle.
"Distances have no value. Turkey believes that the large Aegean islands are too close to its shores. No, their shores are too close to the Greek islands," he said.
Describing the current situation in the Cyprus question as "difficult", Stephanopoulos said Turkey has violated a fundamental principle governing international relations, that differences between nations should be resolved on the basis of international law.
Addressing the international community, Stephanopoulos said it is expected to support the just cause of the people of Cyprus.
The Archbishop welcomed the Greek President, describing his visit as telling proof of Greece's support for Cyprus in its struggle for freedom from the continuing occupation by Turkey of the island's northern part.
Expressing his opposition to a federal Cyprus, the Archbishop said with a divisive solution under the guise of federation they are trying to create such conditions that would offer the possibility and pretext to Turkey to seize the entire island.
"We extend our arms and expect to see yours uniting with ours to enable us to achieve freedom for Cyprus," he told the Greek President, the first Greek head of state to visit Cyprus.
He also warned that if Turkish designs on Cyprus succeed, then Turkey will eye the Aegean islands.
the way i see it is that turkey always was in favor of partition. she was simply much more politically clever and waited for the stupid gc to give her the right excuse.
Again, she wasn't waiting for an excuse to get what she wants. Turks have always had Plan A, Plan B, Plan C etc... The Plan A of Turks has always been a united Cyprus that the TC community will be the politically equal state partner of GC community. However Hellenes have never wished such a thing; instead they have always wanted a Hellenic Cyprus that the TC community is a minority just like Turks in Greece.
