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[CopperLine]

However history can not be used as an excuse to violate the human rights of innocent people.

Indeed Piratis, indeed. So stop using history to violate the human rights of innocent people today. ALL TCs of today are innocent of crimes committed in 1571, 1878 and 1915. And ALL ordinary TCs are innocent of crimes committed in 1958, 1963, 1974, etc.


What I've just said about TCs applies to GCs. And what applies to GCs applies to Turks and Greeks. You on the other hand constantly repeat the calumny that the crime of one individual member of a 'community' merits the collective punishment of all of that community and for all time. History, for you, is a a sword to be used amok. And 'human rights', for you, does not refer to all human beings, just the ones of which you approve.

Your calumny is without question a prima facie breach of :

Article 11 Universal Declaration of Human Rights
and
Articles 6 and 7 European Convention of Human Rights

What you are suggesting regarding the sins of the fathers (if they be sins) is biblically jealous in its stupidity. It's not even medieval in its cruelty, it is barbarically pre-modern.

[Piratis]

However history can not be used as an excuse to violate the human rights of innocent people.

Indeed Piratis, indeed. So stop using history to violate the human rights of innocent people today. ALL TCs of today are innocent of crimes committed in 1571, 1878 and 1915. And ALL ordinary TCs are innocent of crimes committed in 1958, 1963, 1974, etc.


What I've just said about TCs applies to GCs. And what applies to GCs applies to Turks and Greeks. You on the other hand constantly repeat the calumny that the crime of one individual member of a 'community' merits the collective punishment of all of that community and for all time. History, for you, is a a sword to be used amok. And 'human rights', for you, does not refer to all human beings, just the ones of which you approve.

Your calumny is without question a prima facie breach of :

Article 11 Universal Declaration of Human Rights
and
Articles 6 and 7 European Convention of Human Rights

What you are suggesting regarding the sins of the fathers (if they be sins) is biblically jealous in its stupidity. It's not even medieval in its cruelty, it is barbarically pre-modern.

And where did I suggest that the human rights of innocent people should be violated based on what happened in the past??? Are you having illusions again CopperLine? I am not the one who said that TCs today should "pay the price". This is what Bir wrote about GCs.

On the contrary what I support is that all Cypriots should be allowed to have the 100% of their human and democratic rights.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

[Viewpoint]

Would that involve surrending our future to GCs to do with as they wish just because they are the majority?

So when are you going to turn up at the UN Sponsored talks to discuss your future with the Leader of the majority population on the basis of UN Resolutions ???????

please answer the question

[Malapapa]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

Our guarantor.... Russia!

[Kikapu]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

I already gave you the BBF Power sharing plan, so that's who will administer rights of all Cypriots.!

[CopperLine]

However history can not be used as an excuse to violate the human rights of innocent people.

Indeed Piratis, indeed. So stop using history to violate the human rights of innocent people today. ALL TCs of today are innocent of crimes committed in 1571, 1878 and 1915. And ALL ordinary TCs are innocent of crimes committed in 1958, 1963, 1974, etc.


What I've just said about TCs applies to GCs. And what applies to GCs applies to Turks and Greeks. You on the other hand constantly repeat the calumny that the crime of one individual member of a 'community' merits the collective punishment of all of that community and for all time. History, for you, is a a sword to be used amok. And 'human rights', for you, does not refer to all human beings, just the ones of which you approve.

Your calumny is without question a prima facie breach of :

Article 11 Universal Declaration of Human Rights
and
Articles 6 and 7 European Convention of Human Rights

What you are suggesting regarding the sins of the fathers (if they be sins) is biblically jealous in its stupidity. It's not even medieval in its cruelty, it is barbarically pre-modern.

And where did I suggest that the human rights of innocent people should be violated based on what happened in the past??? Are you having illusions again CopperLine? I am not the one who said that TCs today should "pay the price". This is what Bir wrote about GCs.

On the contrary what I support is that all Cypriots should be allowed to have the 100% of their human and democratic rights.

This, Piratis, is one of the many occasions you issue your absurd abuses :

We forgave you after 300+ years of brutal oppression against us, and this is why we managed to live in peace for those 80 years after the Ottoman rule ended. We didn't made you "pay the price". Similarly, we are again willing to forgive you and forgive the massive crimes you are commiting today and for the last several decades, so we can again live together in peace.

The "we" refers to Piratis/GCs, and insodoing you make yourself and all GCs identical. You make yourself the voice of GCs. Then that "we" forgives "you", who are the TCs of today, for 300+ years of brutal oppression (which, by definition, the TCs of today could not have possibly committed) against "us" (the "us" being all GCs,not just Piratis, not just GCs of today, but all GCs for 300+ years. And so it goes on....... we Piratis/GCs accuse you TCs today and forever of crimes that we allege that you committed (though you were not even born) and it is only us GCs who can forgive you TCs for these (falsely-levelled) crimes.

Yours is, Piratis, a monstrous self-serving distortion from beginning to end.

[Viewpoint]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

I already gave you the BBF Power sharing plan, so that's who will administer rights of all Cypriots.!

So you are selling us out to the GCs.

[Kikapu]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

I already gave you the BBF Power sharing plan, so that's who will administer rights of all Cypriots.!

So you are selling us out to the GCs.

How so.??

[Viewpoint]

Piratis who will administer those rights?

I already gave you the BBF Power sharing plan, so that's who will administer rights of all Cypriots.!

So you are selling us out to the GCs.

How so.??

By peddling your camaflouged plan of TC capitulation.