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Cypriot Nationalism can it exist now?

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Postby Malapapa » Sat May 01, 2010 8:00 pm

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Postby Malapapa » Sat May 01, 2010 8:22 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Malapapa wrote:• The CNP will take steps to promote the traditional Cypriot concepts of family values and hospitality by ensuring that they are taught in school.

• The CNP will oppose the intrusion of non-Cypriot and alien cultural influences which undermine our traditional value systems.

• The CNP will encourage the teaching of Cypriot history, culture and traditions at schools.

• The CNP will set up a Cypriot National Lottery and ensure funding is spent on projects which enhance Cypriot culture, rather than degrade it.

• The CNP will introduce formal holidays for Saint Barnabas and Saint Andreas

• The CNP will take legislative steps to protect traditional Cypriot coffee shops, which will include tax concessions, smoking rooms under strict supervision, and a lowering of tax on traditional Cypriot coffee served in coffee shops.


And Cypriot will no doubt mean only Greek Cypriot... :wink:


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BirKibrisli wrote:Tell me MP...Which history,culture and traditions would be tought at schools...Is there a list of books you can give us?


There will be a teaching of a full curriculum of Cypriot history. This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Cyprus, and not the cherry-picked politically incorrect drivel being fed to children today.

BirKibrisli wrote:And will there be official holidays to mark,say,the Islamic religious ocassions???


The rich legacy of religious tradition, legend, myth and very real wealth of landscape and man-made structures is one of our island’s richest treasures and will be fully respected.
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Postby Acikgoz » Sat May 01, 2010 9:53 pm

MP lots of fluff but no details except those from GC perspective - have a stab at Bir's questions let's see how far short you will be of truly being inclusive of legacy Cypriots.

Personally this is another attempt of non-inclusion and ommission of the new reality. Ignore all the actors at your peril - why waste the effort when you know nothing will come out of it - look like a stuck in the past racist bigot.
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Postby Oracle » Sat May 01, 2010 10:02 pm

Malapapa wrote:There will be a teaching of a full curriculum of Cypriot history. This will instil in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Cyprus, and not the cherry-picked politically incorrect drivel being fed to children today..


I would like to know which bits of this "full curriculum" of our history would instill pride in our young people.

Certainly, most of the last few hundred years have been shamefully shit!
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Postby Malapapa » Sat May 01, 2010 10:36 pm

Acikgoz wrote:MP lots of fluff but no details except those from GC perspective - have a stab at Bir's questions let's see how far short you will be of truly being inclusive of legacy Cypriots.

Personally this is another attempt of non-inclusion and ommission of the new reality. Ignore all the actors at your peril - why waste the effort when you know nothing will come out of it - look like a stuck in the past racist bigot.


The Cypriot National Party is a party of Cypriot Nationalism committed to the principle of national sovereignty in all Cypriot affairs. It is pledged to the restoration of the unity and territorial integrity of Cyprus. It believes that the indigenous peoples of Cyprus, form a single brotherhood of peoples, and is pledged therefore to adapt or create political, cultural, economic and military institutions with the aim of fostering the closest possible partnership between these peoples.

Cypriot National Party stands for the preservation of the national character of the Cypriot people. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-Cypriot immigration and settlement and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly Cypriot make up of the Cypriot population that existed in Cyprus prior to 1974.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun May 02, 2010 5:47 am

Malapapa wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:MP lots of fluff but no details except those from GC perspective - have a stab at Bir's questions let's see how far short you will be of truly being inclusive of legacy Cypriots.

Personally this is another attempt of non-inclusion and ommission of the new reality. Ignore all the actors at your peril - why waste the effort when you know nothing will come out of it - look like a stuck in the past racist bigot.


The Cypriot National Party is a party of Cypriot Nationalism committed to the principle of national sovereignty in all Cypriot affairs. It is pledged to the restoration of the unity and territorial integrity of Cyprus. It believes that the indigenous peoples of Cyprus, form a single brotherhood of peoples, and is pledged therefore to adapt or create political, cultural, economic and military institutions with the aim of fostering the closest possible partnership between these peoples.

Cypriot National Party stands for the preservation of the national character of the Cypriot people. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-Cypriot immigration and settlement and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly Cypriot make up of the Cypriot population that existed in Cyprus prior to 1974.


You can hide behind noble sounding words,MP...But as people like to say on this Forum :"The devil is in the detail"...Even in your short time here you would've realised how differently the TC and the GC side look at our recent history...How are you going to reconcile these differences and come up with a version of history which will be objective and neutral...???
I will ask you another more to the point specific question... How will you represent and teach the role of the Greek Orthodox Church in Cyprus during the 50s and the 60s??? Tell me that and I will tell you what chance the CNP has of success...
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Re: Cypriot Nationalism can it exist now?

Postby vaughanwilliams » Sun May 02, 2010 7:36 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:
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Omer Seyhan wrote:Just curious as to what all your opinions are on the following topic:

Can Cypriot Nationalism exist before a Cyprus solution or reunification?


A Cypriot National Party would secure a future for the indigenous people of this island in the Eastern Mediterranean which has been their homeland for millennia.

They would use the term indigenous to describe the people whose ancestors were the earliest settlers here after the last great Ice Age and which have been complemented by the historic migrations from mainland Europe, Anatolia and the Levant.

The migrations of the Phoenicians, Myceneans, Achaeans, Macedonians, Venetians, Byzantines, Venetians, Anatolians, Lusignans, Maronites and closely related kindred peoples have been, over the past few thousands years, been instrumental in defining the character of their nation.


Did you deliberately leave out Ottoman Turks in your list of migrations?


What about the Brits?
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Postby Malapapa » Sun May 02, 2010 12:25 pm

Turkey and Britain are not included on the list as both currently occupy and seek to control all or part of Cyprus. Their contribution to the island is enslavement not enrichment, and their presence here is therefore unwelcome.

We want Cyprus to remain – or return to – the way it has traditionally been. We accept that Cyprus always will have ethnic minorities, including British and Muslims, and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of Cyprus.

The CNP’s policy on British, Turkish and other immigrants is to:

- Deport all the thousands who are here illegally; (the carpetbaggers/settlers)

- Deport all those who commit crimes; (the carpetbaggers/settlers)

- Offer grants to immigrant residents who wish to leave permanently;

- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Sun May 02, 2010 2:10 pm

Malapapa wrote:Turkey and Britain are not included on the list as both currently occupy and seek to control all or part of Cyprus. Their contribution to the island is enslavement not enrichment, and their presence here is therefore unwelcome.

We want Cyprus to remain – or return to – the way it has traditionally been. We accept that Cyprus always will have ethnic minorities, including British and Muslims, and have no problem with this as long as they remain minorities and do not change nor seek to change the fundamental culture and identity of the indigenous peoples of Cyprus.

The CNP’s policy on British, Turkish and other immigrants is to:

- Deport all the thousands who are here illegally; (the carpetbaggers/settlers)

- Deport all those who commit crimes; (the carpetbaggers/settlers)

- Offer grants to immigrant residents who wish to leave permanently;

- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases.


I thinkyou've finally lost it, you silly man. :shock:
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