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[Paphitis]

OK a simple emergency question for all the would be pilots and pilots! I want to see who will come up with the answer first!

Although he completes the external checks and everything is fine, A student pilot is so excited that he takes off without carrying out his pre-flight checks. He is about to do some circuits that would involve touch and go's. As he turns downwind round a left circuit, he is having to fight the controls to keep the aircraft in straight flight. Aircraft keeps wanting to roll left. As he turns for the final approach, the aircraft's controls start getting stiffer and stiffer and he is physically having to exert excessive force on the controls to stop the aircraft from rolling left, and possibly stalling.

He just about manages to land the single angine aircraft safely using some the learned skills, only to find out what was the problem soon after.

a) what actions he took to land the aircraft safely and without stalling?
b) what could have caused the aircraft to behave in such a potentially fatal manner?

He/she did not remove the Pitot Tube cover and didn't have any airspeed indication. His Rudder Trim was possibly not set in the neutral position and his airspeed was low enough to make the aircraft want to stall and enter an incipient spin.

Recovery is power up and nose down to increase airspeed and airflow over the left wing and apply right rudder.

He she probably didn't dip the tanks and so the aircraft may have been left wing heavy. This is just a minor factor!

Pitot tube cover? I've never seen 1 before on a Piper or a Cessna. Not at the flight school I go to anyways.

The Pitot Tube should always be covered so that little insects and other obstructions don't enter the Pitot Tube thus altering the Static Pressure which will cause the Airspeed Indicator to give incorrect speed.

Another possibility is that the Pitot Tube was partially blocked and giving incorrect high airspeed readings, when in actual fact, the aircraft was close to stall.

i know what the pitot tube does. I'll better have a good chat with my flight instructor then. I do have to check the air inlets but never did I run into a pitot tube cover.

Ideally, you should have one.

I know that many PPL pilots don't bother, but you tell your instructor that ideally you should be covering the Pitot Tube. You will impress him with your due diligence at least.

[Paphitis]

Don't make me do it Mr-from-NG.

I actually respect your hard earned money and don't want to cause you any unnecessary hardship.

You should have betted a modest ammount, or offered to buy me some drinks should you lose.

You are full of shit. You posted a picture of yourself on the SHB, remember? So you don't mind us knowing who you are. How about you post some pictures with you in the cockpit of the planes you fly in? Do this first and then I'll tell what you'll need ti do next to prove your point.You have 5 minutes to do this. You are a very resourceful chap so get going.

I have a better solution.

MR-from-NG, why don't you get your friend, BigOz, who has claimed to being a pilot, flight instructor with all sorts of ratings under his belt, short of ATPL (he may have that also now) couple of years ago, which you had yourself personally vouched for him and have him and Paphitis quiz each other on anything that has to do with flying a plane, which they can get into all the technicalities that you and I cannot as novice pilots. Let the "Battle of the Titans" begin and lets see who will be standing in the end. Will it be BigOz, will it be Paphitis, both, or neither.??

I believe Paphitis would like to take on BigOz.!

What do you think.??

Kikapu, I am more than willing to talk technical with Big Oz, if he is capable.

I know you are capable of that, but somehow I doubt BigOz can offer me anything of any value in Aviation.

But we must remember, I don't need to prove a thing on Cyprus Forum. I will if need be, for 5000 Euros to a good cause, but I will do it with caution. I will reserve the right to protect my identity and privacy.

And so you should and must.!

OK, this is what we'll do. Paphitis tells us the type of plane he flies, he does this in the next 2 minutes. I will ask him 3 technical questions about the particular plane, if he answers within 1 minute of my post I will then tell him what he'll need to do next to convince me. So, the 5000 euros may still be on.

Somehow the plane he flies is not what you are used to flying, so I don't know how you can quiz him on anything on a aircraft you have no knowledge about, but, hey, you take it up with Paphitis.!

Why are you interfering, let them get on with it FFS.

Bafitis is a fraud and we are about to prove it.

Well said YFred. The mans a fraud, a ten year old can see this. As for Kikapu, if the roles were reversed, i.e Pahitis TC and I a GC then he would have shouted at the top of his voice that he was a fraud

I just saved you 5,000 Euros. The least you could do, is be grateful and also send over 10% as my commission.!

are you serious? I thought you were a smart guy. You honestly believe Paphidis? Come on Kikapu, stop being an arselicker

First of all you, have no evidence that Paphitis is not a pilot, and secondly, you have not given us any motives as to why Paphitis would pretend to be a pilot, if he wasn't. Now, you answer those question since it is you who is making the allegations that he is not a pilot. Personally, you should have walked away from your bet when you did, but you let Paphitis sucker you back into the bet. Now you are going to have to stick with it, if you want to save face, and lose 5,000 Euros.! Not a very smart move. You must be a lousy poker player.!

I had already predicted, that if Paphitis did not reveal his ID in the form of showing his pilot's licence and his flight log book, you would claim victory, a hollow one at that. That's why I suggested you put BigOz against Paphitis, but you seemed to have frowned at that idea for some reason.!!!!

Now, you tell me who is the smart one of us.??

You're smart guy, far smarter than me Btw, I measure people smartness with their bank balance, how much are you worth?

Right, back Paphitis, you look at all the posts from last to the present moment and you decide if he holds a licence or not And here you are telling me you did me a favour and saved me 5K, are you fucking serious?

In that case, when the time comes, I hope you will deposit the 5,000 Euros with Militiades or whom ever you two agree on, to go forward with your bet, rather than backing out as you did this time when you got cornered, before allowing Paphitis suckered you back in again.!

BigOz is around, so why don't you ask him to give Paphitis a "Flight test".!

Ok you idiot, since you're so certain he holds a commercial pilots licence how about you having a bet with me. I'm ready to hand over 5K Euros to Miltiades to hold onto. You contact Milti and tell him you're banking 5K into his account, once this is resolved Milti will hand over to you or me. Put your money where your fucking mouth is.

You have already made the bet sunshine. I have given you ample opportunity to back out with your dignity intact, but you have insisted to bet 5K on me not having a CPL.

You are very silly.

My only concern is how I can prove it to you whilst keeping my privacy intact.

WE HAVE AN ACCORD!

Now, any suggestions on how we can do this in a fashion where I can keep my ID private? Perhaps you are willing to accept either Miltiades or Get Real as an independent and unbiased referee, since I don't fear either as I know for a fact that I can trust them both with my particulars knowing full well that they would both respect my privacy.

The ball is in your caught Mr-from-NG.

And just remember, I don't need to prove anything, but 5K to Miltiades favourite charity is very hard to pass up.

Here is a little taster:

[YFred]

Don't make me do it Mr-from-NG.

I actually respect your hard earned money and don't want to cause you any unnecessary hardship.

You should have betted a modest ammount, or offered to buy me some drinks should you lose.

You are full of shit. You posted a picture of yourself on the SHB, remember? So you don't mind us knowing who you are. How about you post some pictures with you in the cockpit of the planes you fly in? Do this first and then I'll tell what you'll need ti do next to prove your point.You have 5 minutes to do this. You are a very resourceful chap so get going.

I have a better solution.

MR-from-NG, why don't you get your friend, BigOz, who has claimed to being a pilot, flight instructor with all sorts of ratings under his belt, short of ATPL (he may have that also now) couple of years ago, which you had yourself personally vouched for him and have him and Paphitis quiz each other on anything that has to do with flying a plane, which they can get into all the technicalities that you and I cannot as novice pilots. Let the "Battle of the Titans" begin and lets see who will be standing in the end. Will it be BigOz, will it be Paphitis, both, or neither.??

I believe Paphitis would like to take on BigOz.!

What do you think.??

Kikapu, I am more than willing to talk technical with Big Oz, if he is capable.

I know you are capable of that, but somehow I doubt BigOz can offer me anything of any value in Aviation.

But we must remember, I don't need to prove a thing on Cyprus Forum. I will if need be, for 5000 Euros to a good cause, but I will do it with caution. I will reserve the right to protect my identity and privacy.

And so you should and must.!

OK, this is what we'll do. Paphitis tells us the type of plane he flies, he does this in the next 2 minutes. I will ask him 3 technical questions about the particular plane, if he answers within 1 minute of my post I will then tell him what he'll need to do next to convince me. So, the 5000 euros may still be on.

Somehow the plane he flies is not what you are used to flying, so I don't know how you can quiz him on anything on a aircraft you have no knowledge about, but, hey, you take it up with Paphitis.!

Why are you interfering, let them get on with it FFS.

Bafitis is a fraud and we are about to prove it.

Well said YFred. The mans a fraud, a ten year old can see this. As for Kikapu, if the roles were reversed, i.e Pahitis TC and I a GC then he would have shouted at the top of his voice that he was a fraud

I just saved you 5,000 Euros. The least you could do, is be grateful and also send over 10% as my commission.!

are you serious? I thought you were a smart guy. You honestly believe Paphidis? Come on Kikapu, stop being an arselicker

First of all you, have no evidence that Paphitis is not a pilot, and secondly, you have not given us any motives as to why Paphitis would pretend to be a pilot, if he wasn't. Now, you answer those question since it is you who is making the allegations that he is not a pilot. Personally, you should have walked away from your bet when you did, but you let Paphitis sucker you back into the bet. Now you are going to have to stick with it, if you want to save face, and lose 5,000 Euros.! Not a very smart move. You must be a lousy poker player.!

I had already predicted, that if Paphitis did not reveal his ID in the form of showing his pilot's licence and his flight log book, you would claim victory, a hollow one at that. That's why I suggested you put BigOz against Paphitis, but you seemed to have frowned at that idea for some reason.!!!!

Now, you tell me who is the smart one of us.??

You're smart guy, far smarter than me Btw, I measure people smartness with their bank balance, how much are you worth?

Right, back Paphitis, you look at all the posts from last to the present moment and you decide if he holds a licence or not And here you are telling me you did me a favour and saved me 5K, are you fucking serious?

In that case, when the time comes, I hope you will deposit the 5,000 Euros with Militiades or whom ever you two agree on, to go forward with your bet, rather than backing out as you did this time when you got cornered, before allowing Paphitis suckered you back in again.!

BigOz is around, so why don't you ask him to give Paphitis a "Flight test".!

Ok you idiot, since you're so certain he holds a commercial pilots licence how about you having a bet with me. I'm ready to hand over 5K Euros to Miltiades to hold onto. You contact Milti and tell him you're banking 5K into his account, once this is resolved Milti will hand over to you or me. Put your money where your fucking mouth is.

You have already made the bet sunshine. I have given you ample opportunity to back out with your dignity intact, but you have insisted to bet 5K on me not having a CPL.

You are very silly.

My only concern is how I can prove it to you whilst keeping my privacy intact.

WE HAVE AN ACCORD!

Now, any suggestions on how we can do this in a fashion where I can keep my ID private?

Bafidobulluimu what on earth are you afraid of? Have you done something wrong?
Or was it the fact that you advocated the shooting down of a civilian aircraft over the TRNC airspace?
Advocacy is a wonderful business to be in?

[Paphitis]

Don't make me do it Mr-from-NG.

I actually respect your hard earned money and don't want to cause you any unnecessary hardship.

You should have betted a modest ammount, or offered to buy me some drinks should you lose.

You are full of shit. You posted a picture of yourself on the SHB, remember? So you don't mind us knowing who you are. How about you post some pictures with you in the cockpit of the planes you fly in? Do this first and then I'll tell what you'll need ti do next to prove your point.You have 5 minutes to do this. You are a very resourceful chap so get going.

I have a better solution.

MR-from-NG, why don't you get your friend, BigOz, who has claimed to being a pilot, flight instructor with all sorts of ratings under his belt, short of ATPL (he may have that also now) couple of years ago, which you had yourself personally vouched for him and have him and Paphitis quiz each other on anything that has to do with flying a plane, which they can get into all the technicalities that you and I cannot as novice pilots. Let the "Battle of the Titans" begin and lets see who will be standing in the end. Will it be BigOz, will it be Paphitis, both, or neither.??

I believe Paphitis would like to take on BigOz.!

What do you think.??

Kikapu, I am more than willing to talk technical with Big Oz, if he is capable.

I know you are capable of that, but somehow I doubt BigOz can offer me anything of any value in Aviation.

But we must remember, I don't need to prove a thing on Cyprus Forum. I will if need be, for 5000 Euros to a good cause, but I will do it with caution. I will reserve the right to protect my identity and privacy.

And so you should and must.!

OK, this is what we'll do. Paphitis tells us the type of plane he flies, he does this in the next 2 minutes. I will ask him 3 technical questions about the particular plane, if he answers within 1 minute of my post I will then tell him what he'll need to do next to convince me. So, the 5000 euros may still be on.

Somehow the plane he flies is not what you are used to flying, so I don't know how you can quiz him on anything on a aircraft you have no knowledge about, but, hey, you take it up with Paphitis.!

Why are you interfering, let them get on with it FFS.

Bafitis is a fraud and we are about to prove it.

Well said YFred. The mans a fraud, a ten year old can see this. As for Kikapu, if the roles were reversed, i.e Pahitis TC and I a GC then he would have shouted at the top of his voice that he was a fraud

I just saved you 5,000 Euros. The least you could do, is be grateful and also send over 10% as my commission.!

are you serious? I thought you were a smart guy. You honestly believe Paphidis? Come on Kikapu, stop being an arselicker

First of all you, have no evidence that Paphitis is not a pilot, and secondly, you have not given us any motives as to why Paphitis would pretend to be a pilot, if he wasn't. Now, you answer those question since it is you who is making the allegations that he is not a pilot. Personally, you should have walked away from your bet when you did, but you let Paphitis sucker you back into the bet. Now you are going to have to stick with it, if you want to save face, and lose 5,000 Euros.! Not a very smart move. You must be a lousy poker player.!

I had already predicted, that if Paphitis did not reveal his ID in the form of showing his pilot's licence and his flight log book, you would claim victory, a hollow one at that. That's why I suggested you put BigOz against Paphitis, but you seemed to have frowned at that idea for some reason.!!!!

Now, you tell me who is the smart one of us.??

You're smart guy, far smarter than me Btw, I measure people smartness with their bank balance, how much are you worth?

Right, back Paphitis, you look at all the posts from last to the present moment and you decide if he holds a licence or not And here you are telling me you did me a favour and saved me 5K, are you fucking serious?

In that case, when the time comes, I hope you will deposit the 5,000 Euros with Militiades or whom ever you two agree on, to go forward with your bet, rather than backing out as you did this time when you got cornered, before allowing Paphitis suckered you back in again.!

BigOz is around, so why don't you ask him to give Paphitis a "Flight test".!

Ok you idiot, since you're so certain he holds a commercial pilots licence how about you having a bet with me. I'm ready to hand over 5K Euros to Miltiades to hold onto. You contact Milti and tell him you're banking 5K into his account, once this is resolved Milti will hand over to you or me. Put your money where your fucking mouth is.

You have already made the bet sunshine. I have given you ample opportunity to back out with your dignity intact, but you have insisted to bet 5K on me not having a CPL.

You are very silly.

My only concern is how I can prove it to you whilst keeping my privacy intact.

WE HAVE AN ACCORD!

Now, any suggestions on how we can do this in a fashion where I can keep my ID private?

Bafidobulluimu what on earth are you afraid of? Have you done something wrong?
Or was it the fact that you advocated the shooting down of a civilian aircraft over the TRNC airspace?
Advocacy is a wonderful business to be in?

Who me? You must be kidding!

Mr-from-NG owes Milti 5K!

[MR-from-NG]

How many of the same do you want me to post, do you think its that simple to prove this? I'm pretty crap with computers and even I could get such documents and doctor them to fool people.

You are even a bigger fraud than I thought. What happened t your internet being down and blah blah blah. You quickly came up with this rubbish and you want to be taken seriously? Kido, this man is not convinced, and sorry but I cant take your offer of showing your credentials to Milti or GR, no disrespect to my friends but this is my battle, I let others get involved.

[Paphitis]

How many of the same do you want me to post, do you think its that simple to prove this? I'm pretty crap with computers and even I could get such documents and doctor them to fool people.

You are even a bigger fraud than I thought. What happened t your internet being down and blah blah blah. You quickly came up with this rubbish and you want to be taken seriously? Kido, this man is not convinced, and sorry but I cant take your offer of showing your credentials to Milti or GR, no disrespect to my friends but this is my battle, I let others get involved.

Just as I thought Mr-from-NG!

If you look carefully, the documents are authentic and even have the Civil Aviation Safety Authority stamp and official paper with Civil Aviation Safety Authority plastered all over the background. This is impossible to counterfeit.

Mate, be a man and pay up because you lost this bet fair and square!

Take responsibility for your actions!

[Paphitis]

How many of the same do you want me to post, do you think its that simple to prove this? I'm pretty crap with computers and even I could get such documents and doctor them to fool people.

You are even a bigger fraud than I thought. What happened t your internet being down and blah blah blah. You quickly came up with this rubbish and you want to be taken seriously? Kido, this man is not convinced, and sorry but I cant take your offer of showing your credentials to Milti or GR, no disrespect to my friends but this is my battle, I let others get involved.

My internet is not down. It has been disconnected because I am moving house. I also have an IPhone and a portable Optus USB Modem with 5Gigs of data. I am using the USB right now.

C'mon! I am waiting to see how many authentic Flight Crew Licences you can post!

[Paphitis]

[MR-from-NG]

How many of the same do you want me to post, do you think its that simple to prove this? I'm pretty crap with computers and even I could get such documents and doctor them to fool people.

You are even a bigger fraud than I thought. What happened t your internet being down and blah blah blah. You quickly came up with this rubbish and you want to be taken seriously? Kido, this man is not convinced, and sorry but I cant take your offer of showing your credentials to Milti or GR, no disrespect to my friends but this is my battle, I let others get involved.

My internet is not down. It has been disconnected because I am moving house. I also have an IPhone and a portable Optus USB Modem with 5Gigs of data. I am using the USB right now.

C'mon! I am waiting to see how many authentic Flight Crew Licences you can post!

Do you seriously expect me or anybody with any sense to take these seriously? Are you stupid or something?

[Paphitis]

How many of the same do you want me to post, do you think its that simple to prove this? I'm pretty crap with computers and even I could get such documents and doctor them to fool people.

You are even a bigger fraud than I thought. What happened t your internet being down and blah blah blah. You quickly came up with this rubbish and you want to be taken seriously? Kido, this man is not convinced, and sorry but I cant take your offer of showing your credentials to Milti or GR, no disrespect to my friends but this is my battle, I let others get involved.

My internet is not down. It has been disconnected because I am moving house. I also have an IPhone and a portable Optus USB Modem with 5Gigs of data. I am using the USB right now.

C'mon! I am waiting to see how many authentic Flight Crew Licences you can post!

Do you seriously expect me or anybody with any sense to take these seriously? Are you stupid or something?

Yeh mate! I worked very hard for to get my tickets and I posted the real McCoy earlier. Your mate BigOz will verify their authenticity because he would have seen many CASA Flight Crew Licences if he is indeed a pilot in Australia.

Also, there are many forumers here who know my real identity, and they can see for themselves that my partially erased name, address, totally match exactly what they would expect, including the signature! Get Real for example knows my identity, as well as Kikapu, Boomerang, Umit, and many more.

Mr-from-NG, don't expect anyone to take you seriously from know on. You made a very daring and silly bet, and now you have proven that you are not a man of your word!

What a stupid lying bastard you've proven to be!