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Italian Minister: Islam is not a Civilization

Postby theg » Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:55 am

Italian Minister: Islam is not a Civilization
By Anadolu News Agency (aa)
Published: Thursday July 28, 2005
zaman.com


Italian Reform Minister Roberto Calderoli said that Islam is a religion far from being defined as a civilization.

The discussion on Islam which started among political parties in Italy following the recent terrorist attacks on the UK and Egypt escalated into a verbal duel. After Minister of Interior Affairs Giuseppe Pisanu defended moderate Islam and dialogue in his statement to an Italian newspaper while Calderoli made strange statements regarding Islam. Calderoli who said the thesis of the ''Clash of Civilizations'' is partially true also said, but Islam is not a civilization. It is true that there is a clash. But this is a clash between being civilized and uncivilized. Islam cannot be considered a civilization.

''Western civilization is higher than Islam. The West must defeat others, too, just as it defeated communism, even though this leads to a clash with Islam which became stuck in a time one thousand four hundred years ago," Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi had said in September 2001.


nonsense, radical, and provoked idea.
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Postby Main_Source » Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:13 pm

It's not a civilization...its a religion.
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Postby theg » Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:25 pm

Main_Source wrote:It's not a civilization...its a religion.


what is civilization arise?
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Postby KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH » Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:43 pm

The phrase 'Islamic Civilization' is an oxymoron, you can either be Islamic or you can be Civilized. You cannot be both.

All of the great 'Muslim' scientists were in fact Persians who detested the fact Muslims had coem into their land invaded them. People like Abu Ali Sina who was a polytheist. Islam just robbed Persia of it's science and claimed it as it's own. Just like when the Arabs try and claim they invented Numerals - When they got that knowledge off of the Chinese.
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Postby 2fan » Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:36 pm

[quote="KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH"]The phrase 'Islamic Civilization' is an oxymoron, you can either be Islamic or you can be Civilized. You cannot be both.

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Just what we need. Another hatemongering racist village idiot. Your above quote tells me volumes about your intellectual incapacity. After reading your posts it is crystal clear that you are a terrorist supporter on top of being a moron.

A civilised muslim.
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Postby KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH » Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:12 am

2fan wrote:
KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH wrote:The phrase 'Islamic Civilization' is an oxymoron, you can either be Islamic or you can be Civilized. You cannot be both.

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Just what we need. Another hatemongering racist village idiot. Your above quote tells me volumes about your intellectual incapacity. After reading your posts it is crystal clear that you are a terrorist supporter on top of being a moron.

A civilised muslim.


My friend, look, if you do not agree with Shariah law and a Caliphate then you are not a Muslim, it is as simple as that. In the Koran it says that these are prime duties and are part of the 5 themes (or pillars) of being a Muslim. If you don't agree with stoning women to death, you are not a Muslim.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:35 pm

Kypos, you are the saddest person I have ever seen in my life in the whole universe!! How many times did you come up with different names?? I just feel sorry for you!! Get a life for your own good!!
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Postby KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:07 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:Kypos, you are the saddest person I have ever seen in my life in the whole universe!! How many times did you come up with different names?? I just feel sorry for you!! Get a life for your own good!!


Turkey, you are quite clearly inable to debate with me. If you are able to provide verses from Koran that show how tolerant it is I will gladly enter into a structured debate with a moderator as Judge.
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Postby YeReVaN » Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:59 pm

Turkey you might as well give up right now. As a muslim, you don't seem to know much about your religion, not to mention your bloody history.
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Postby KYPROS-EINAI-ELLHNIKH » Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:06 pm

YeReVaN wrote:Turkey you might as well give up right now. As a muslim, you don't seem to know much about your religion, not to mention your bloody history.


Thank you Yerevan to learn about islam go here:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/Author/Sina.htm
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