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[X-ite]

You are saying that Cypriots are not Turkish or Greek.In words you can write this...But what about in real? What you feel deep inside?

As I said we are Cypriots who have Greek or Turkish descent. That's how I feel. Do you think that if Cyprus reunites the solution will work if we continue to see ourselves as Greeks and Turks?

Everytime you make differentation inside !

That's true that's because we have been living seperately all these years and most of us felt we had no reason to see ourselves as a common people. I think in time we will develop a Cypriot identity just like the Austrians formed an Austrian identity. Our Greekness or our Turkishness will only be a component of our identity, not the most important thing.

You are a supporter of seperation or what?

I was talking about the Greeks in Greece and the Turks in Turkey. Notice I call US Cypriot.

[Turker]

There is need to Unit. We are sons of the same culture. I think we can easily get along with each other unless inhumanity takes place.

We love you, you should love us too

[X-ite]

I disagree we are not "sons" ( I would prefer children )of the same culture, our heritage is different but there is no reason why we should not get along. To respect each other is what matters not to assimilate.

[Piratis]

We love you, you should love us too

Turker, if I kidnapped your mother and I didn't give her back to you and then I come and tell you "I love you, you should love me too", what would you tell me? Think about the your answer. Thats the same answer we give to you

[Turker]

Turker, if I kidnapped your mother and I didn't give her back to you and then I come and tell you "I love you, you should love me too", what would you tell me? Think about the your answer. Thats the same answer we give to you

I think you divert things. me, my father or anybody coming from my family didn't rape your mothers.

for now, I don't have an idea about what happened in the war because I still dont have certain info about that and I'm looking up, on neutral web sites.

I think you say this judging from the Greek Sources. I advise you to look up unbiased ones. Because You cant be sure to have read certain information about the truth. WE OR YOU ARE NOT ANGELS!

Here, if I say something judging from turkish sources you are inhuman.

For example, in a Film by "Sezercik" about Cyprus Action, a Greek soldier raped a woman with a children and Greek troops were joyfully going to Turkish villages and kill people with laughs. But the child representing Turkish children in the film was so kindhearted that he didn't take his revenge from soldiers that killed his mother.

And the other resources of us don't say different things.

But I didn't write them to accuse you before as We cant know for certain with only our national sources.

Anyway, if they did or not... But What's my guilt if they raped? What did majority of our people do against you?

You are stucked in the history. And do you know, Denktash says smilar things about you. I think you have so much common with him. You are a Greek version of Denktash.

We are your friend, we share a common cultural wealth and values. Except for our religion most of our values are the same.


You want hatred between nations. I won't permit that in this web site.

I still love all the Greek, ......... even You!

[PEACE]

think you divert things. me, my father or anybody coming from my family didn't rape your mothers.

for now, I don't have an idea about what happened in the war because I still dont have certain info about that and I'm looking up, on neutral web sites.

Dear Turker,i suppose Piratis's sentence is an imitation ! Piratis means with "kidnapping mother" occupaying Northern Cyprus.Is it Piratis?

[Turker]

Dear Turker,i suppose Piratis's sentence is an imitation ! Piratis means with "kidnapping mother" occupaying Northern Cyprus.

Hmm, but i dont know if it is like you said, i'm sorry. But some Greek resources claim that Turkish soldiers raped mothers of many. You can accept my answer to that claims if your response was an imitation.

[mehmet]

in Cyprus history many things like murder and rape occur, this is not special to Cyprus history but to most wars amd civil conflict. It is unacceptable for innocent people to be victimised in this way by soldiers who are bound by Geneva convention on treatment of prisoners. Many things happen to civilians that are unacceptable and I don't come writing on this post to say anything else. I hope everyone realise that there are casualties on all sides, we should accept that without having to name every member of their family that was caught up in conflicts between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots that became a big problem when EOKA and TMT were formed through to 1974.

What I also think is unacceptable is that we can't discuss issues without using words like 'rape' out of context. Look up rape in a dictionary, in an English one it makes no mention of soldiers occupying a territory, are there definitions in Greek and Turkish ones which are different? It is an example of how issues become personalised by using emotive language, and will not lead to unity.

[Piratis]

Dear Turker,i suppose Piratis's sentence is an imitation ! Piratis means with "kidnapping mother" occupaying Northern Cyprus.

Hmm, but i dont know if it is like you said, i'm sorry. But some Greek resources claim that Turkish soldiers raped mothers of many. You can accept my answer to that claims if your response was an imitation.

Yep, you missed the metaphor I should have made it more clear.

Also in your statement: "We love you, you should love us too", you used "we", not "I". I assume "we" refers to the majority of Turks who apparently support the occupation of Cyprus.

If by "we" you mean Turks that do not support the occupation of Cyprus (I hope this includes you), then of course I have no problem with your statement and I agree with it

[Turker]

We includes both not supporting and non supporting parties of aftermaths of Cyprus Actions.

We love you in spite of your masaccres in Cyprus in the history.

Because We are Turks, we love all the people, no matter what their nation, religion, political view.

Mevlana Celaleddin Rumi, the great Anatolian philosopher, poet and the father of the Mevlevi sect., says that:

Come, come again, whoever you are, come!
Heathen, fire worshipper or idolatrous, come!
Come even if you broke your penitence a hundred times,
Ours is the portal of hope, come as you are.

Source: http://www.mevlana.net/ (Go and have a look at it)

This is the way we live with. We love all the People, even the Greek, who invaded the West Anatolia...