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Unification of Turkey and Greece...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Do you want the reunification of Turkey and Greece?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 11

Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:09 pm

Turker,

You (Turks in general) love with words, and hate with actions. Words mean nothing. This is just hypocrisy.
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Postby Turker » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:15 pm

That may be half of us but the other half of us is not as you said. We are coming from a rich, peace-wanting culture
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:25 pm

I have no doubt that many Turks are peace loving. But your governments actions do not reflect that, and therefore we have to assume that the peace loving ones are the minority.

We are coming from a rich, peace-wanting culture

Oh, you are from Switzerland! Sorry, i thought you were from Turkey :wink:
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Postby Turker » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:52 pm

:!: So, could you tell me how you see Turks? What are they likke in your oppinion?

Are we inhuman, animal or something smilar to human but not persons? :evil:

What do you want to tell? I accept that some Turkish politics in Cyprus are wrong but these have already been critisized by Turkish people and intellectuals. They were only government policies.

Do you think Turkish People want go in war with you and invade Salonique coming by Entering your land From Edirne like you did after 1st world war in Izmir?

No, i think you should know us closer as i'm trying the same thing for you.

But I'm now certainly convinced with your last messages that You are really a Greek version of Denktash. Denktash talks just like you.

You have no right to critisize us as long as you go on thinking like him.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 7:28 pm

Turkey occupies Cyprus. You can not occupy another country and at the same time say that you are peace loving. (by "you" I mean the majority of Turks, not you personally). Except if you say that in Turkey there is no democracy, and therefore the actions of your government do not represent the wish of the majority of the Turkish people. Is this the case?

I didn't say you are inhuman or animals, but saying that Turkey has a "peace-wanting culture" is a huge exaggeration. I wouldn't even dare to say this about Greeks, even if Greece has been one of the most peaceful nations for several decades already.
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Postby mehmet » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:19 pm

Piratis wrote:Greece has been one of the most peaceful nations for several decades already.


which decades was this?

at the beginning of the century when they invade Bulgaria along with Serbia? or were you thinking about the 1920s when they invade Turkey?
or were you thinking about the 1960s and 1070s when they interfere in the politics of Cyprus? don't you know that the colonels order the army to attack Turkey in 1974? why do you think democracy return to Greece? maybe the Greek support for PKK counts as peaceful action.
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Postby Turker » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:40 pm

yeah; mehmed is so right
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 8:47 pm

which decades was this?

The last 3 decades. Thats much longer than never isn't it?

Also you come and post this, when I had already said that: "I wouldn't even dare to say this about Greeks", do you read only what you want to read?
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Postby mehmet » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:37 pm

Piratis wrote:, even if Greece has been one of the most peaceful nations for several decades already.


Wrong, three decades means from 1974. You forget about support for PKK.

Belguim, Switzerland, Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Holland, Luxumbourg, Spain, Portugal, France, there are more ,
and all these countries can claim to have been more peaceful than Greece in all of 20th Century. And I haven't even mentioned the countries outside Europe.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:50 pm

You forget about support for PKK.

Thats in response of the occupation of Cyprus and Aegean. If Turkey acts like assholes, they shouldn't expect the best treatment.

If you are asking me Greece is way too friendly toward Turkey lately.
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