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[Oracle]

No, B., it's about equality and treating others as you would expect them to treat you.

The Turks are NOT the most important people on the planet. All people are equal. If one group decides to subjugate another, that is not acceptable.

Because of Turkey, the GCs are suffering themselves and the priority from our angle is the GCs' plight. We have to help ourselves before we are in a better position to helps others. The Palestinians, Lebanese etc, even Israelis' rights; can gain further support from us if we weren't ourselves weakened, from qualitatively supporting justice for all.

Strengthening the GCs by restoring their homeland will strengthen long-term stability in the region. The stability which has been undermined for decades (centuries?) by Turkey, which even NOW is further threatening neighbouring nations.

[Oracle]

I had no doubt that the resident forum fascists would switch allegiance, forget about the Palestinians they were all for before, and now urge Israel to destroy Turkey. In the hate balance, Turkey is heavier. This is not because of 1974, but rather because hate is imprinted into their genes.

BTW Imprinting comes from environmental cues. If such a thing were possible, then there would have been justifiable reasons for developing a "hate gene". Natural selection would not allow the perpetuation of a useless gene (imprinted or not) unless it had some survival advantage.

Yes, the Turks have a great survival advantage; look at their numbers! Perhaps, if we abandoned free will, morality and a drive to civilisation and instead adopted the Turk's law of the jungle, we too might be thriving ...

Quantity or quality?

[BirKibrisli]

A bit late now to preach democracy and equality and all that...The time was in the 50s and the 60s and the GCs were very very silent on all those noble notions then...You have no credibility now,so beter to shut up and let people get on with finding a solution both sides can live with....

[Oracle]

A bit late now to preach democracy and equality and all that...The time was in the 50s and the 60s and the GCs were very very silent on all those noble notions then...You have no credibility now,so beter to shut up and let people get on with finding a solution both sides can live with....

It's never too late. There is no 'use-by-date' for democracy and equality. We have always striven for these rights. Our Makarios was thwarted by the enemies of democracy and equality.

The solution can only come from respecting democracy and equality. So it is you who lack credibility, amongst civilised people.

[BOF]

the Japanese are another race that have never ever apologised for any wrongdoing during WW2 or even for the rape and destruction and the downright murder of hundreds of thousands of citizens of Nankng as it was known then.
even when confronted by Manchurian women who were used as troop comforts, the still couldnt admit wrongdoing.
there is an account of a competition between two japanese officers to see how many they could behead before their swords were too blunt.

but they remember the dead of Hirosima and Nagasaki
collective amnesia is alive and kicking in the Med.

[BOF]

A bit late now to preach democracy and equality and all that...The time was in the 50s and the 60s and the GCs were very very silent on all those noble notions then...You have no credibility now,so beter to shut up and let people get on with finding a solution both sides can live with....

It's never too late. There is no 'use-by-date' for democracy and equality. We have always striven for these rights. Our Makarios was thwarted by the enemies of democracy and equality.

The solution can only come from respecting democracy and equality. So it is you who lack credibility, amongst civilised people.

and how was big Mak thwarted? do you mean the Greek Generals?

[Oracle]

A bit late now to preach democracy and equality and all that...The time was in the 50s and the 60s and the GCs were very very silent on all those noble notions then...You have no credibility now,so beter to shut up and let people get on with finding a solution both sides can live with....

It's never too late. There is no 'use-by-date' for democracy and equality. We have always striven for these rights. Our Makarios was thwarted by the enemies of democracy and equality.

The solution can only come from respecting democracy and equality. So it is you who lack credibility, amongst civilised people.

and how was big Mak thwarted? do you mean the Greek Generals?

By his own government ... and his own people, the TCs. This led the way for Turkey to attempt an invasion in 1964 which eventually led to the Junta becoming interested in bringing Cyprus under its (plus USA's) wings in 1974. Thus completing the anti-democratic path initiated from the time the Ottomans arrived, to the destruction of the vestigial democratic government in 1963 up to the present where racist apartheid is practiced by Turkey over us.

[Oracle]

the Japanese are another race that have never ever apologised for any wrongdoing during WW2 or even for the rape and destruction and the downright murder of hundreds of thousands of citizens of Nankng as it was known then.
even when confronted by Manchurian women who were used as troop comforts, the still couldnt admit wrongdoing.
there is an account of a competition between two japanese officers to see how many they could behead before their swords were too blunt.

but they remember the dead of Hirosima and Nagasaki
collective amnesia is alive and kicking in the Med.

That is exactly the same as the Turks. However, the Turks did not suffer anywhere near as bad as the Japanese. No one has come out and punished the Turks like they did the Japanese.

Why is Turkey getting away with it all the time?

[CopperLine]

The forum idiot wrote "it's about equality and treating others as you would expect them to treat you." after having spewed pages and pages of hate filled bile. So that is how she wants to be treated ?

[Oracle]

The forum idiot wrote "it's about equality and treating others as you would expect them to treat you." after having spewed pages and pages of hate filled bile. So that is how she wants to be treated ?

I don't dish "hatred" where it is not deserved. So do the same!

I hate the bringers of racist apartheid to my country. I hate their continuing discrimination. If you hate me for hating these things then go ahead and prove you are the same as these hateful practitioners.