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Postby Omer Seyhan » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:38 am

Some Turks and their supporters including some Cypriots are trying to paint the impression that Turkey has the moral ground in the Middle East / Cyprus with its foreign policy.....

Below are two different articles that seem to contradict one another I feel. Which are we supposed to take seriously? One is from a member of the House of Lords / Equality Commission, and the other is from Amnesty International...
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Image THURSDAY, 10 JUNE 2010

Turkey post Gaza
By Baroness Meral Ece

When I wrote this last month, I was aware that it would be controversial, but I can't believe anyone would've predicted it would result in the tragic death of nine Turkish people.
These events have now taken centre stage in Turkish domestic politics, and the fall-out between Turkey - Israeli relations will resonate for years.
Here in London, which has the largest Turkish community in the UK, there has been much anger at the Gaza flotilla incident, in particular, in the way most of the dead seem to have been shot in the head at close range. But what has caught my attention has been the confidence and feeling that Turkey is on the 'right side' on this issue, whereas in the past it has been pilloried and often attacked by those on the centre-left. Turkish people are traditionally proud and patriotic of their homeland, but also its biggest critic. Particularly those who came to the UK as political refugees in the '80's. For the first time, Turkey's strong stance and criticism of Israel's doomed raid on the aid flotilla, has brought universal support from Turkish people from across the political spectrum.
Turkey has changed and grown over the last decade, with economic growth expected to be 6.3% this year - a rate that we in the UK can only dream about. There is also a sense that Turkey has shown leadership in the Middle East. As someone put it to me: 'Turkey has stood up the the regional bully'
For generations, Turkey has been heavily reliant on the US and faced criticism from the left for being too pro-US in foreign policy. As a child in the '60's, I spent the Summer holidays in Turkey and can remember relatives talking of the aid and parcels they received from the US during the difficult years of shortages.
This came to an abrupt end during the Bush years with their refusal to join the Iraq war, and then its refusal to send combat troops to Afghanistan.
In hindsight, Turkey's foreign policy decisions have proved to be sounder than those of the UK.
Of course Turkey needs to progress with more reforms within its civil society, but countries in the Middle East and beyond, want to be partners and friends with the new Turkey, and it is now the most popular holiday desitination for the British.

Many countries in the Middle East are now looking to Turkey as a growing power and a natural leader in the region.
As a Turkish friend recently said to me: 'I no longer feel I have to apologise for Turkey, but am proud of the huge progress that has been made'
Posted by Meral Hussein Ece at 21:44 0 comments

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Amnesty International says no much progress on human rights in Turkey 27.5.2010

May 27, 2010

LONDON, — Little progress was made on enhancing human rights protections. Reports of torture and other ill-treatment persisted, as did criminal prosecutions limiting the right to freedom of expression." This is how the Amnesty International Report 2010 began its chapter about Turkey. The report was published today. It goes on stating that "the legitimate work of human rights defenders was hampered by excessive administrative scrutiny and judicial harassment.
In many cases alleged human rights violations by state officials were not investigated effectively, and the chances of bringing law enforcement officials to justice remained remote. Unfair trials continued, especially under anti-terrorism legislation which was used to prosecute children under the same procedures as adults. Prison regimes showed little improvement, and access to appropriate medical treatment was commonly denied. No progress was made in recognizing the right to conscientious objection to military service, and the rights of refugees and asylum seekers continued to be violated. Lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people faced discrimination in law and practice, and protections for women and girls subjected to violence remained inadequate".

Here are some points made by Amnesty International in relation to human rights defenders:

"Human rights defenders were prosecuted for their legitimate work monitoring and reporting human rights violations. Certain prominent individuals were subjected to regular criminal investigations. There was excessive administrative scrutiny by officials, and in some cases judicial proceedings were used to bring closure cases against human rights organizations.

Ethem Acıkalın, head of the Adana branch of the Human Rights Association (İHD), faced seven ongoing prosecutions as a result of his work as a human rights defender. In October he was convicted of “inciting enmity or hatred among the population” and sentenced to three years’ imprisonment for criticizing the state government’s imprisonment in 2008 of children involved in protests, including against withdrawal of family health care benefits. An appeal was pending at the end of the year.

In December Muharrem Erbey, Vice-President of İHD and head of its Diyarbakır branch, was arrested on suspicion of membership of the Kurdish Communities Union (KCK) which is alleged to be part of the PKK. The police interrogated him about his work for İHD, and reportedly seized data on human rights abuses from İHD’s Diyarbakır office. He remained in pre-trial detention at the end of the year."

As for torture and other ill-treatment this is what Amnesty has to say:

"torture and other ill-treatment continued to be reported, with many abuses taking place away from official places of detention. Those accused of ordinary crimes, as well as people accused of politically motivated offences, were vulnerable to ill-treatment."

And on impunity:

Investigations into alleged human rights abuses by state officials remained largely ineffective and the chances of bringing officials to justice were remote. During the year no independent human rights mechanism or independent monitoring of places of detention was adopted.

In 35 criminal cases against 431 officers, not one conviction had followed. In June the Criminal Procedure Code was amended to allow the prosecution of military officials in civilian courts.

The prosecution of Ergenekon, an alleged ultranationalist network with links to state institutions, continued. Those accused included both serving and retired senior members of the armed forces. The court accepted a second indictment in March and a third in September. However, the prosecution was not broadened to include an investigation of alleged human rights violations."

Prison conditions

Allegations of ill-treatment on transfer to prison persisted and, in a number of cases, prisoners’ access to appropriate medical treatment was denied. In November five prisoners were sent to the high security prison on the island of İmralı where PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan had been imprisoned in isolation for 10 years. It was announced that the six prisoners would be able to associate with each other for up to 10 hours a week, in keeping with regulations applicable to all prisoners in Turkey’s high security prisons.

On occasion, children were held in prison alongside adults, and generally prison regimes for children did not differ from those of adult prisoners. Notably, there was no provision for child prisoners to continue their education."

Unfair trials

Protracted and unfair trials persisted, especially of suspects prosecuted under anti-terrorism legislation. Children were prosecuted under the same procedures as adults and convicted under unfair laws on the basis of unsubstantiated and unreliable evidence for their alleged participation in sometimes violent demonstrations.

Prisoners of conscience – conscientious objectors

Conscientious objection to military service was not allowed and no civilian alternative was available. Laws allowing the repeated prosecution and conviction of conscientious objectors remained in force.

Rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people

Discrimination in law and practice continued against people based on their sexual orientation and gender identity. Five transgender women were murdered, and in only one case was a conviction secured.

Refugees and asylum-seekers

Recognized refugees, registered asylum-seekers and others in need of protection were arbitrarily denied access to the asylum procedure and sometimes detained. Some were returned to countries where they risked persecution.

Violence against women and girls

The number of shelters available for women survivors of domestic violence remained woefully inadequate and far below the one for every settlement of 50,000 people required by domestic law. In September a government protocol was signed to facilitate greater cooperation between state institutions in protecting survivors of domestic violence.

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Re: Which Turkey?

Postby Get Real! » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:44 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:Some Turks and their supporters including some Cypriots are trying to paint the impression that Turkey has the moral ground in the Middle East / Cyprus with its foreign policy.....

You gotta remember that Turks are mostly uninformed about what the rest of the world and especially recognized HR bodies, think of Turkey because the plethora are uneducated and/or have no access to the Internet.

Whatever successive Turkish governments say/print goes...
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:54 am

My money's on the AI version.
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Re: Which Turkey?

Postby Malapapa » Wed Jun 16, 2010 12:59 am

Omer Seyhan wrote:As a Turkish friend recently said to me: 'I no longer feel I have to apologise for Turkey,
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Yes. The Armenians, Kurds, Pontians, Cypriots etc. have been pleading with Turkey for ages now to stop apologising as it's getting embarrassing.
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Postby Omer Seyhan » Wed Jun 16, 2010 1:21 am

The only positive thing about Meral is that she has a blog and is opinionated, however stupid some of her ideas are at times. There are other UK Cypriot politicians who are as we say in Cypriot-Turkish "Teneke" or "tin," - that is they are empty on the inside and intellectually useless at the best of times.
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