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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:Here, Kikapu saw fit to EQUATE American atrocities around the world with a military operation to liberate occupied Cyprus against Turkey!

But we already know from your past statements, that if and when in the next "necessary war" in Cyprus against Turkey, the TCs will be "decimated" by the GCs, using your words. I'm sure you will be using full International laws while you achieve your objectives, right.?!!!

So why would the USA be different in the way they fought/ fight their wars no matter what kind it is. How do you differ from the US with your idea of the next hypothetical war in Cyprus and the TCs.??

Kikapu, obviously has never heard of a country’s right of self defense or has a very screwed up understanding of what it means…

The UN Charter (Article 51)

http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter7.shtml

…and numerous Chapter VII Resolutions.


Pay attention, GR. You were not talking about "decimating" the invading Turkish army in Cyprus, but the TCs, fellow Cypriot citizens, in the event of a war, by trying to get rid of the invading Turkish army, so the question still stands, which was, were you planning in using full International Laws and Human Rights while the GCs were "decimating" the TCs during a war to get rid of the invading Turkish Army.?

Last time I checked, the TCs were not the invading foreign army in Cyprus at the present time.! :wink:
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Re: Why America has a green light to invade, occupy and murd

Postby EPSILON » Thu Jul 08, 2010 6:55 pm

Get Real! wrote:Why America has a green light to invade, occupy and murder people according to Kikapu…

Ladies & Gentlemen, I present you with a FREE tour of the (sick) mind of a fool who justifies countless American atrocities in this way…

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1) if it wasn't for the Americans, all of Europe would be speaking German now

2) America winning the cold war

3) saving Asia from the Japanese Empire at great cost

4) all the foreign humanitarian Aid America gives to the world

5) 500,000+ people America takes in as immigrants from around the world

6) being first in line to assist victims of major natural disasters around the world

7) the American Peace Corps where thousands of Americans travel to most remote places in the world

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So according to Kikapu’s first three points we were “saved” by America so that America could kill us herself later at her leisure! :?

And according to Kikapu’s next three points (4..6), America sends humanitarian aid and/or accepts immigrants to retain a “right” to murder you later! :?

And finally, America “retains a right” to illegally invade, occupy and murder nations because they’ve got a “peace corps” traveling around the world! :?


If this individual isn’t sick in the head I don’t know who or what is! :lol:


Why Cessar, Alexander the Great,Ottomans, British empire, French in colonis, Germans , again back, Persians, Egyptians had the sam right?Are you still wondering?ok When Cyprus or your origin country replace all these Nations in history, then you will understand why!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:20 pm

Get Real! wrote:The FREE tour of the fool’s mind continues with this gem…

“American Empire is based on Military Power with bases around the world and economic power at home. America does not steal others property, land and it's natural minerals.”


You have to ask yourself, does the fool ever follow the news?

Iraq doles out $350 million to 3 'hot spots'

“The Times first disclosed that increased Iraqi oil revenues stemming from high prices and improved security are piling up in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York rather than being spent on needed reconstruction projects.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/200 ... hot-spots/


The Plan to Steal Iraq's Oil
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-c ... 11793.html

How Much Iraqi Crude Oil is Being Stolen? Mystery of the Missing Meters
http://www.alternet.org/story/51218


And hundreds of other articles confirming the theft of Iraqi resources by the US... :roll:


Any missing funds more than likely went into the pockets of the corrupted Iraqi officials as well as reconstruction and oil companies and not into the US government's pocket. $350 Million was about what the US was spending a DAY at the height of the war in Iraq, or about $8 Billion US Dollars per month for the next 2-3 years. £350 million is a joke in comparison what the US taxpayers were spending to fight the war and re-build Iraq. A lot of US governments money was embezzled by others also. Now, that was one expensive oil.

I'm surprised you would trust to read a Greek American Ariana Huffington's post from 5 years ago to get your information on "stolen" Iraqi oil.! :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:41 pm

Get Real! wrote:Kikapu, has spent the last 3-4 years here pretty much complaining about Turkey’s violations against Cyprus which I agree with, but why is he so adamantly ignoring and even defending America’s numerous, constant, and horrific violations against other countries?

Can there be two sets of rules in Kikapu's world?

Who can answer this question?


I'm not defending any illegal actions by the US and you know it. The facts are, America does more good in the world than bad, that's all. As soon as you can get your head around that statement, you too will be able to tell facts from fiction.! :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:04 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Kikapu, has spent the last 3-4 years here pretty much complaining about Turkey’s violations against Cyprus which I agree with, but why is he so adamantly ignoring and even defending America’s numerous, constant, and horrific violations against other countries?

Can there be two sets of rules in Kikapu's world?

Who can answer this question?


I'm not defending any illegal actions by the US and you know it. The facts are, America does more good in the world than bad, that's all. As soon as you can get your head around that statement, you too will be able to tell facts from fiction.! :wink:

Kikapu you are wasting your time with this fool who detests the USA and the West passionately. The idiot wants to start a war against Turkey , sacrifice thousands of lives most innocent and yet he passionately cares for the suicide savages !! He is a moron of the highest order or to put it in a proper context a malakas plonker !!
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Re: Why America has a green light to invade, occupy and murd

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:56 am

Kikapu wrote:Even with your exaggerated false statements above in painting America and me in bad light, the facts are, America had/has done more good things for the world than bad, which you have not been able to repudiate

160 reasons why Kikapu is an idiot!


USA Invasions, Bombings, Military Aid, Political Interventions and Sanctions

(Year - Country - Action - Reason Given - Actual Reason)

1947 France Election Finance;Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA government and French recolonisation of Vietnam.
1947 Italy Election Finance;Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA and pro-business government.
1947 Greece Military Backing Communism Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1947 Philippines Election Finance None Military bases.
1948 Peru Military Backing None Control of government.
1948 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Support for French recolonisation. Fear of independent Vietnam.
1948 Nicaragua Military Backing None Pro-USA government and access to plantations.
1949 China Arms Sales;Bombing Communism Access to a pro-USA and pro-business government.
1950 Colombia Food Aid Humanitarian Destruction of an agricultural rival.
1950 Korea Killing Civilians None Unknown.
1950 Puerto Rico Military Action None To crush independence movement.
1953 Philippines Election Finance None Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1954 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Fear of united and powerful independent country.
1955 Europe Election Finance None Wanted united pro-USA, pro-NATO and anti-socialist Europe.
1956 Egypt Sanctions Communism Country took ownership of its Suez Canal and opposed USA Middle East policy.
1957 Jordan Military Training None Wanted strong pro-USA government.
1958 Lebanon Military Action None Removal of anti-West dissidents.
1958 Indonesia Election Finance None Government is against USA business interests.
1958 Japan Election Finance None To keep pro-USA governments in power.
1959 Haiti Military Action None To crush rebellion against pro-USA government.
1959 Nepal Covert Action None To help pro-USA government win power.
1960 Congo Assassination None Wanted to remove popular and nationalist leader; access to minerals.
1960 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1960 Iraq Destabilisation None Leader founds and supports OPEC.
1961 Cuba Secret Invasion None Country using its resources for its own people.
1961 Dominican Republic Assassination None Unknown.
1962 Vietnam Military Action Communism Country wanted unity and independence.
1962 Cuba Economic Sabotage None Country using its resources for its own people.
1962 Brazil Election Finance None Wanted pro-business government.
1962 Dominican Republic Political Coersion None Unknown.
1963 Iraq Assassination;Intelligence Communism Previous government against USA oil interests; removal of dissidents.
1963 El Salvador Advisors Communism Removal of anti-USA dissidents.
1964 North Vietnam Bombing None Removal of independent government.
1964 South Vietnam Torture Training Communism Suppression of independence movements.
1964 Panama Military Action Law and Order Suppression of movement demanding return of canal.
1965 Vietnam Military Action Communism To keep the country from uniting.
1965 Dominican Republic Intervention Communism To keep elected leader from returning to power.
1965 Indonesia Intelligence Communism Removal of dissidents. Helping a pro-business regime.
1965 Laos Destabilisation;Bombing Communism Denial of support for Vietnam.
1965 Thailand Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government; military bases.
1965 Peru Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1966 Vietnam Village Clearing;Bombing Communism Political control of the country.
1966 Laos Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1966 Central Africa Finance None Access to uranium.
1966 Bolivia Election Finance None Access to minerals and oil.
1967 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of the country.
1967 Cuba Assassination None Removal of popular leader.
1968 Vietnam Village Clearing;Bombing Communism Political control of country.
1969 Cambodia Secret Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1969 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of country.
1970 North Vietnam Bombing None Control of country.
1970 Uruguay Torture Training None To keep opposition from taking power.
1970 Oman Military Assistance None Unknown.
1971 Laos Invasion None Control of country.
1971 Vietnam Military Action None Control of country.
1972 North Vietnam Blockade;Bombing None Control of country.
1972 Nicaragua Troops Business interests Support for business and pro-USA government.
1972 Australia Election Finance None Did not like Labour Party foreign policy.
1972 Iraq Aid to Kurds Humanitarian To destabilise Iraq as it had a quarrel with USA ally, Iran.
1973 Cambodia Bombing None Control of country.
1974 Vietnam Trade Embargo Communism The Vietnamese were winning against the USA.
1974 Zaire Military Aid None Control of resources.
1974 Portugal Election Finance None Did not want socialist government to take power.
1975 Vietnam Economic Attack Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1975 East Timor Support of Invasion None Did not want a new independent state; oil.
1975 Iraq Change of Support None Kurdish rebels no longer of use.
1975 Morocco Support of Invasion None Morocco grants use of military bases in return.
1976 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1976 Philippines Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Pakistan Military Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1977 Egypt Economic Coersion None To remove Egypt from the anti-Israel camp.
1977 Zaire Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1978 Guatemala Military Aid;Economic Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1979 Iran Habouring Dictator None New government wants control of its resources, especially oil.
1979 Central Africa Economic Aid None Support for pro-business government.
1979 Afghanistan Military Aid Repel USSR To repel USSR and break their economy.
1979 Cambodia Aid to Khmer Rouge None To please new ally China; to antagonise Vietnam.
1979 Vietnam Economic Blockade Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1979 Yemen Military Aid None To please ally, Saudi Arabia.
1980 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1980 Honduras Troops Communism Protect resources and create anti-Nicaragua bases.
1980 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Wanted to destabilise new anti-USA government of Iran.
1980 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please new ally, China.
1980 Italy Terrorism None To discredit socialist election candidates and to heighten fear of the USSR.
1980 South Korea Military Aid;Political Support None Suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Tanzania Economic Coersion Communism Wanted the country to change its economy to suit USA companies.
1981 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise an anti-West government.
1981 Indo-China Economic Coersion Communism To stop the independent development of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
1982 Lebanon Troops Humanitarian To help Israel remove Palestinians.
1982 Guatemala Military Aid None To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1982 South Africa Financial Aid Terrorism To help South Africa destabilise the region.
1982 Afghanistan Military Aid Communism To replace USSR backed government by the USA backed government.
1982 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran To support Iraq's war against the anti-USA government of Iran.
1983 Lebanon Troops;Bombing Peace Keeping To ensure pro-USA factions won the civil war.
1983 Nicaragua Blockade;Arming Rebels Communism To replace government with pro-USA regime.
1983 Zimbabwe Economic Coersion None Government had too independent foreign policy.
1984 Mozambique Economic Coersion Communism To stop support for democracy in South Africa.
1985 Lebanon Car Bomb Assassination To remove anti-Israel and anti-USA dissidents.
1985 New Zealand Economic Coersion None Country backed nuclear free Pacific.
1985 Chad Military Aid;Financial Aid None Support for non-elected pro-USA regime.
1985 Honduras Military Aid;Training Communism To destabilise elected government of Nicaragua.
1986 Nicaragua Military Aid Communism To destabilise elected government.
1986 Libya Bombing Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1987 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Support for Iraq in its war against Iran.
1988 Colombia Military Aid Drugs Support for pro-USA government.
1988 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1988 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1989 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1989 Panama Invasion;Diplomatic Violation Drugs To ensure control over the Panama Canal.
1989 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please China.
1989 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country because it is anti-USA and pro-Palestinian.
1990 Nicaragua Election Finance Communism To ensure that a pro-USA government was elected.
1990 El Salvador Military Training Communism Support of the pro-USA government.
1990 Guatemala Military Aid Communism Support for the pro-USA government.
1990 Bulgaria Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1990 Germany Document Theft None Unknown.
1991 Iraq Invasion;UN Violation;Sanctions Free Kuwait To ensure that Iraq became less powerful.
1991 Philippines Disinformation None Military bases.
1992 Somalia Invasion Humanitarian To ensure that a pro-West government took control.
1992 Colombia Military Aid Drugs To remove anti-USA elements.
1992 Albania Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1992 Angola Military Aid Communism Wanted access to oil and diamonds.
1993 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1993 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1994 Haiti Troops;Document Theft Democracy To ensure that a pro-west government is elected.
1994 Jordan Financial Aid Humanitarian To obtain agreement with Israel's view that Palestinian refugees do not have a right of return.
1994 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1995 Turkey Military Aid None To keep a pro-USA government happy while it attacks Kurds.
1995 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1995 Mexico Military Aid Drug Trafficking To crush opposition to USA business interests.
1995 Iran Sanctions Terrorism Country using its resources for its own people.
1996 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To keep the country weak and to destabilise the government.
1996 Mongolia Election Finance Communism To help elect a pro-USA government that would allow electronic monitoring of China.
1997 Rwanda Military Aid None Support for pro-West government.
1997 Iraq Sanctions UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Afghanistan Bombing Terrorism To destroy terror camps built by the USA to fight the USSR and now suspected of being used against the USA.
1998 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Sudan Bombing Terrorism Unknown.
1998 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA NATO country.
1998 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
1998 South Korea Food Aid Humanitarian To make the country dependent on USA produced food.
1999 Yugoslavia Bombing Humanitarian European business interests.
1999 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To destabilise independent Arab regime.
1999 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
2000 Israel Military Aid;Economic Aid;Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2000 Kyrgyzstan Financial Aid Humanitarian To gain influence in oil rich Central Asia.
2001 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To protect USA oil companies from dissidents.
2001 China Provocation Communism To obtain secrets and intimidate independent country.
2001 Israel Military Aid; Economic Aid; Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2001 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2001 Afghanistan Bombing;Invasion Terrorism To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2002 Afghanistan Bombing;Invasion Terrorism To gain influence and control over oil rich Central Asia.
2002 Angola Intelligence Terrorism To remove their no longer needed former client.
2003 Iraq Invasion Banned Weapons To gain control of oil rich country and impose a government friendly to the USA.
2007 Somalia Bombing;Support of Invasion Terrorism To install a pro-USA government.

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Re: Why America has a green light to invade, occupy and murd

Postby Free Spirit » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:47 am

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Even with your exaggerated false statements above in painting America and me in bad light, the facts are, America had/has done more good things for the world than bad, which you have not been able to repudiate

160 reasons why Kikapu is an idiot!


Get Real (Human Dustbin) please tell us what you'd like to be if and when you grow up?
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Postby miltiades » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:26 am

GR , you are a sicko mate , get some help before is too late. Your unhealthy revulsion of the USA is profoundly sick.
I also believe that you consider Dr Ali Sina an idiot is that right ? You also agree that apostates from Islam should be stoned to death , is that right . You are also religious !!!!!
What a Plonker !!!
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Re: Why America has a green light to invade, occupy and murd

Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:27 am

Get Real! wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Even with your exaggerated false statements above in painting America and me in bad light, the facts are, America had/has done more good things for the world than bad, which you have not been able to repudiate

160 reasons why Kikapu is an idiot!


USA Invasions, Bombings, Military Aid, Political Interventions and Sanctions

(Year - Country - Action - Reason Given - Actual Reason)

1947 France Election Finance;Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA government and French recolonisation of Vietnam.
1947 Italy Election Finance;Economic Coersion Communism Wanted pro-USA and pro-business government.
1947 Greece Military Backing Communism Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1947 Philippines Election Finance None Military bases.
1948 Peru Military Backing None Control of government.
1948 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Support for French recolonisation. Fear of independent Vietnam.
1948 Nicaragua Military Backing None Pro-USA government and access to plantations.
1949 China Arms Sales;Bombing Communism Access to a pro-USA and pro-business government.
1950 Colombia Food Aid Humanitarian Destruction of an agricultural rival.
1950 Korea Killing Civilians None Unknown.
1950 Puerto Rico Military Action None To crush independence movement.
1953 Philippines Election Finance None Wanted pro-USA government and military bases.
1954 Vietnam Military Backing Communism Fear of united and powerful independent country.
1955 Europe Election Finance None Wanted united pro-USA, pro-NATO and anti-socialist Europe.
1956 Egypt Sanctions Communism Country took ownership of its Suez Canal and opposed USA Middle East policy.
1957 Jordan Military Training None Wanted strong pro-USA government.
1958 Lebanon Military Action None Removal of anti-West dissidents.
1958 Indonesia Election Finance None Government is against USA business interests.
1958 Japan Election Finance None To keep pro-USA governments in power.
1959 Haiti Military Action None To crush rebellion against pro-USA government.
1959 Nepal Covert Action None To help pro-USA government win power.
1960 Congo Assassination None Wanted to remove popular and nationalist leader; access to minerals.
1960 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1960 Iraq Destabilisation None Leader founds and supports OPEC.
1961 Cuba Secret Invasion None Country using its resources for its own people.
1961 Dominican Republic Assassination None Unknown.
1962 Vietnam Military Action Communism Country wanted unity and independence.
1962 Cuba Economic Sabotage None Country using its resources for its own people.
1962 Brazil Election Finance None Wanted pro-business government.
1962 Dominican Republic Political Coersion None Unknown.
1963 Iraq Assassination;Intelligence Communism Previous government against USA oil interests; removal of dissidents.
1963 El Salvador Advisors Communism Removal of anti-USA dissidents.
1964 North Vietnam Bombing None Removal of independent government.
1964 South Vietnam Torture Training Communism Suppression of independence movements.
1964 Panama Military Action Law and Order Suppression of movement demanding return of canal.
1965 Vietnam Military Action Communism To keep the country from uniting.
1965 Dominican Republic Intervention Communism To keep elected leader from returning to power.
1965 Indonesia Intelligence Communism Removal of dissidents. Helping a pro-business regime.
1965 Laos Destabilisation;Bombing Communism Denial of support for Vietnam.
1965 Thailand Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government; military bases.
1965 Peru Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1966 Vietnam Village Clearing;Bombing Communism Political control of the country.
1966 Laos Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1966 Central Africa Finance None Access to uranium.
1966 Bolivia Election Finance None Access to minerals and oil.
1967 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of the country.
1967 Cuba Assassination None Removal of popular leader.
1968 Vietnam Village Clearing;Bombing Communism Political control of country.
1969 Cambodia Secret Bombing None Denial of support for Vietnam.
1969 Vietnam Military Action Communism Political control of country.
1970 North Vietnam Bombing None Control of country.
1970 Uruguay Torture Training None To keep opposition from taking power.
1970 Oman Military Assistance None Unknown.
1971 Laos Invasion None Control of country.
1971 Vietnam Military Action None Control of country.
1972 North Vietnam Blockade;Bombing None Control of country.
1972 Nicaragua Troops Business interests Support for business and pro-USA government.
1972 Australia Election Finance None Did not like Labour Party foreign policy.
1972 Iraq Aid to Kurds Humanitarian To destabilise Iraq as it had a quarrel with USA ally, Iran.
1973 Cambodia Bombing None Control of country.
1974 Vietnam Trade Embargo Communism The Vietnamese were winning against the USA.
1974 Zaire Military Aid None Control of resources.
1974 Portugal Election Finance None Did not want socialist government to take power.
1975 Vietnam Economic Attack Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1975 East Timor Support of Invasion None Did not want a new independent state; oil.
1975 Iraq Change of Support None Kurdish rebels no longer of use.
1975 Morocco Support of Invasion None Morocco grants use of military bases in return.
1976 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1976 Philippines Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Pakistan Military Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1977 Egypt Economic Coersion None To remove Egypt from the anti-Israel camp.
1977 Zaire Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1977 Indonesia Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1978 Guatemala Military Aid;Economic Aid None Support for unelected pro-USA government.
1979 Iran Habouring Dictator None New government wants control of its resources, especially oil.
1979 Central Africa Economic Aid None Support for pro-business government.
1979 Afghanistan Military Aid Repel USSR To repel USSR and break their economy.
1979 Cambodia Aid to Khmer Rouge None To please new ally China; to antagonise Vietnam.
1979 Vietnam Economic Blockade Communism To stop country developing as a model for the region.
1979 Yemen Military Aid None To please ally, Saudi Arabia.
1980 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1980 Honduras Troops Communism Protect resources and create anti-Nicaragua bases.
1980 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Wanted to destabilise new anti-USA government of Iran.
1980 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please new ally, China.
1980 Italy Terrorism None To discredit socialist election candidates and to heighten fear of the USSR.
1980 South Korea Military Aid;Political Support None Suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Tanzania Economic Coersion Communism Wanted the country to change its economy to suit USA companies.
1981 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Stop opposition to pro-USA government.
1981 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise an anti-West government.
1981 Indo-China Economic Coersion Communism To stop the independent development of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia.
1982 Lebanon Troops Humanitarian To help Israel remove Palestinians.
1982 Guatemala Military Aid None To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1982 South Africa Financial Aid Terrorism To help South Africa destabilise the region.
1982 Afghanistan Military Aid Communism To replace USSR backed government by the USA backed government.
1982 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran To support Iraq's war against the anti-USA government of Iran.
1983 Lebanon Troops;Bombing Peace Keeping To ensure pro-USA factions won the civil war.
1983 Nicaragua Blockade;Arming Rebels Communism To replace government with pro-USA regime.
1983 Zimbabwe Economic Coersion None Government had too independent foreign policy.
1984 Mozambique Economic Coersion Communism To stop support for democracy in South Africa.
1985 Lebanon Car Bomb Assassination To remove anti-Israel and anti-USA dissidents.
1985 New Zealand Economic Coersion None Country backed nuclear free Pacific.
1985 Chad Military Aid;Financial Aid None Support for non-elected pro-USA regime.
1985 Honduras Military Aid;Training Communism To destabilise elected government of Nicaragua.
1986 Nicaragua Military Aid Communism To destabilise elected government.
1986 Libya Bombing Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1987 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iran Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country.
1988 Iraq Military Aid Islamic Iran Support for Iraq in its war against Iran.
1988 Colombia Military Aid Drugs Support for pro-USA government.
1988 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1988 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA government.
1989 El Salvador Military Aid Communism Support for pro-USA government.
1989 Panama Invasion;Diplomatic Violation Drugs To ensure control over the Panama Canal.
1989 Cambodia Military Aid None To destabilise Vietnamese backed government and to please China.
1989 Libya Provocation Terrorism To destabilise the country because it is anti-USA and pro-Palestinian.
1990 Nicaragua Election Finance Communism To ensure that a pro-USA government was elected.
1990 El Salvador Military Training Communism Support of the pro-USA government.
1990 Guatemala Military Aid Communism Support for the pro-USA government.
1990 Bulgaria Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1990 Germany Document Theft None Unknown.
1991 Iraq Invasion;UN Violation;Sanctions Free Kuwait To ensure that Iraq became less powerful.
1991 Philippines Disinformation None Military bases.
1992 Somalia Invasion Humanitarian To ensure that a pro-West government took control.
1992 Colombia Military Aid Drugs To remove anti-USA elements.
1992 Albania Election Finance Communism Did not want a socialist government in power.
1992 Angola Military Aid Communism Wanted access to oil and diamonds.
1993 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1993 Cuba Trade Embargo Communism Country using its resources for its own people.
1994 Haiti Troops;Document Theft Democracy To ensure that a pro-west government is elected.
1994 Jordan Financial Aid Humanitarian To obtain agreement with Israel's view that Palestinian refugees do not have a right of return.
1994 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To suppress opposition to pro-USA government.
1995 Turkey Military Aid None To keep a pro-USA government happy while it attacks Kurds.
1995 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To ensure that Iraq does not flood the oil market, lowering the price.
1995 Mexico Military Aid Drug Trafficking To crush opposition to USA business interests.
1995 Iran Sanctions Terrorism Country using its resources for its own people.
1996 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To keep the country weak and to destabilise the government.
1996 Mongolia Election Finance Communism To help elect a pro-USA government that would allow electronic monitoring of China.
1997 Rwanda Military Aid None Support for pro-West government.
1997 Iraq Sanctions UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Afghanistan Bombing Terrorism To destroy terror camps built by the USA to fight the USSR and now suspected of being used against the USA.
1998 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
1998 Sudan Bombing Terrorism Unknown.
1998 Turkey Military Aid None Support for pro-USA NATO country.
1998 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
1998 South Korea Food Aid Humanitarian To make the country dependent on USA produced food.
1999 Yugoslavia Bombing Humanitarian European business interests.
1999 Iraq Bombing UN Violations To destabilise independent Arab regime.
1999 Guatemala Military Aid None Suppression of opposition to pro-USA government.
2000 Israel Military Aid;Economic Aid;Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2000 Kyrgyzstan Financial Aid Humanitarian To gain influence in oil rich Central Asia.
2001 Colombia Military Aid Drug Trafficking To protect USA oil companies from dissidents.
2001 China Provocation Communism To obtain secrets and intimidate independent country.
2001 Israel Military Aid; Economic Aid; Political Support Terrorism Support for a strongly pro-West country in the Middle East.
2001 Iraq Sanctions;Bombing UN Violations To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2001 Afghanistan Bombing;Invasion Terrorism To replace the government with one that is more pro-West.
2002 Afghanistan Bombing;Invasion Terrorism To gain influence and control over oil rich Central Asia.
2002 Angola Intelligence Terrorism To remove their no longer needed former client.
2003 Iraq Invasion Banned Weapons To gain control of oil rich country and impose a government friendly to the USA.
2007 Somalia Bombing;Support of Invasion Terrorism To install a pro-USA government.

http://www.krysstal.com/democracy_whyusa02.html


The above list goes to support my claim, that America has done more good in the world than bad, so I want to thank GR for providing us the list.! :D

As I've already stated, America has been fighting Communism and Fascism since the end of WWII after saving Europe from speaking German and Cyprus from speaking ONLY Turkish, as well us keeping the oil supplies flowing to the world's markets. From the above list, they have also fought against Dictators, Drug Lords and pushers, illegal regimes, Anti democracy, anti capitalism, Gangsters, Pirates, Scum bags and Shit Stirrers to mention a few. Most other conflicts were multi national forces where the USA was not the "Lone Ranger". Then there were the few "conflicts of necessity" as well as few bad choices. Overall, from the above list that GR provided, the world has become better place to be at the cost of the US tax payers, despite getting a black eye for it from the likes of GR. Yes America has done bad things in the world, but she has done far more good things than bad.!

CASE CLOSED.! :D
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:The above list goes to support my claim, that America has done more good in the world than bad, so I want to thank GR for providing us the list.! :D

As I've already stated, America has been fighting Communism and Fascism since the end of WWII after saving Europe from speaking German and Cyprus from speaking ONLY Turkish, as well us keeping the oil supplies flowing to the world's markets. From the above list, they have also fought against Dictators, Drug Lords and pushers, illegal regimes, Anti democracy, anti capitalism, Gangsters, Pirates, Scum bags and Shit Stirrers to mention a few. Most other conflicts were multi national forces where the USA was not the "Lone Ranger". Then there were the few "conflicts of necessity" as well as few bad choices. Overall, from the above list that GR provided, the world has become better place to be at the cost of the US tax payers, despite getting a black eye for it from the likes of GR. Yes America has done bad things in the world, but she has done far more good things than bad.!

CASE CLOSED.! :D

I'm sure everyone agrees with you Kikapu, so to make your case EVEN STRONGER look what unkie GR has got for you!!! 8)

Errm, see how you can wrap it all up and get back to me with your best fantastical story so we can sell it to the rest of the forumers! :wink: :wink: :wink:


The US: Rogue Nation

1. In December 2001, the United States officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement-the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.

2. 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention ratified by 144 nations including the United States. In July 2001 the US walked out of a London conference to discuss a 1994 protocol designed to strengthen the Convention by providing for on-site inspections. At Geneva in November 2001, US Undersecretary of State John Bolton stated that "the protocol is dead," at the same time accusing Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria of violating the Convention but offering no specific allegations or supporting evidence.

3. UN Agreement to Curb the International Flow of Illicit Small Arms, July 2001: the US was the only nation to oppose it.

4. April 2001, the US was not re-elected to the UN Human Rights Commission, after years of withholding dues to the UN (including current dues of $244 million)-and after having forced the UN to lower its share of the UN budget from 25 to 22 percent. (In the Human Rights Commission, the US stood virtually alone in opposing resolutions supporting lower-cost access to HIV/AIDS drugs, acknowledging a basic human right to adequate food, and calling for a moratorium on the death penalty.)

5. International Criminal Court (ICC) Treaty, to be set up in The Hague to try political leaders and military personnel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Signed in Rome in July 1998, the Treaty was approved by 120 countries, with 7 opposed (including the US). In October 2001 Great Britain became the 42nd nation to sign. In December 2001 the US Senate again added an amendment to a military appropriations bill that would keep US military personnel from obeying the jurisdiction of the proposed ICC.

6. Land Mine Treaty, banning land mines; signed in Ottawa in December 1997 by 122 nations. The United States refused to sign, along with Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, and Turkey. President Clinton rejected the Treaty, claiming that mines were needed to protect South Korea against North Korea's "overwhelming military advantage." He stated that the US would "eventually" comply, in 2006; this was disavowed by President Bush in August 2001.

7. Kyoto Protocol of 1997, for controlling global warming: declared "dead" by President Bush in March 2001. In November 2001, the Bush administration shunned negotiations in Marrakech (Morocco) to revise the accord, mainly by watering it down in a vain attempt to gain US approval.

8. In May 2001, refused to meet with European Union nations to discuss, even at lower levels of government, economic espionage and electronic surveillance of phone calls, e-mail, and faxes (the US "Echelon" program),

9. Refused to participate in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)-sponsored talks in Paris, May 2001, on ways to crack down on off-shore and other tax and money-laundering havens.

10. Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001

11. September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa

12. International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it.

13. Enforcing an illegal boycott of Cuba, now being made tighter. In the UN in October 2001, the General Assembly passed a resolution, for the tenth consecutive year, calling for an end to the US embargo, by a vote of 167 to 3 (the US, Israel, and the Marshall Islands in opposition).

14. Comprehensive [Nuclear] Test Ban Treaty. Signed by 164 nations and ratified by 89 including France, Great Britain, and Russia; signed by President Clinton in 1996 but rejected by the Senate in 1999. The US is one of 13 nonratifiers among countries that have nuclear weapons or nuclear power programs. In November 2001, the US forced a vote in the UN Committee on Disarmament and Security to demonstrate its opposition to the Test Ban Treaty.

15. In 1986 the International Court of Justice (The Hague) ruled that the US was in violation of international law for "unlawful use of force" in Nicaragua, through its actions and those of its Contra proxy army. The US refused to recognize the Court's jurisdiction. A UN resolution calling for compliance with the Court's decision was approved 94-2 (US and Israel voting no).

16. In 1984 the US quit UNESCO (UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) and ceased its payments for UNESCO's budget, over the New World Information and Communication Order (NWICO) project designed to lessen world media dependence on the "big four" wire agencies (AP, UPI, Agence France-Presse, Reuters). The US charged UNESCO with "curtailment of press freedom," as well as mismanagement and other faults, despite a 148-1 in vote in favor of NWICO in the UN. UNESCO terminated NWICO in 1989; the US nonetheless refused to rejoin. In 1995 the Clinton administration proposed rejoining; the move was blocked in Congress and Clinton did not press the issue. In February 2000 the US finally paid some of its arrears to the UN but excluded UNESCO, which the US has not rejoined.

17. Optional Protocol, 1989, to the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, aimed at abolition of the death penalty and containing a provision banning the execution of those under 18. The US has neither signed nor ratified and specifically exempts itself from the latter provision, making it one of five countries that still execute juveniles (with Saudi Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Nigeria). China abolished the practice in 1997, Pakistan in 2000.

18. 1979 UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. The only countries that have signed but not ratified are the US, Afghanistan, Sao Tome and Principe.

19. The US has signed but not ratified the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which protects the economic and social rights of children. The only other country not to ratify is Somalia, which has no functioning government.

20. UN International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, 1966, covering a wide range of rights and monitored by the Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The US signed in 1977 but has not ratified.

21. UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 1948. The US finally ratified in 1988, adding several "reservations" to the effect that the US Constitution and the "advice and consent" of the Senate are required to judge whether any "acts in the course of armed conflict" constitute genocide. The reservations are rejected by Britain, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Greece, Mexico, Estonia, and others.

22. Is the status of "we're number one!" Rogue overcome by generous foreign aid to given less fortunate countries? The three best aid providers, measured by the foreign aid percentage of their gross domestic products, are Denmark (1.01%), Norway (0.91%), and the Netherlands (0.79), The three worst: USA (0.10%), UK (0.23%), Australia, Portugal, and Austria (all 0.26).


http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DUB112B.html


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