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Postby Paphitis » Tue Oct 26, 2010 3:20 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
fig head wrote:hmm wish i had read this thread before i kill those snakes in the back garden !


snakes are evil kil them all.


Snakes are no more evil than humans.

Look mate, I live in a country with the most venomous snakes in the world, and have had a couple of close encounters in my time, but generally speaking, snakes are very shy and timid. They are more scared of you than you are of them, and will only attack when provoked. The Inland Taipan is an aggressive snake, but if you respect their space, they can not harm you.

Live and let live Palio! :roll:
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:25 pm

really? like the king cobra? the rattlesnake is very dangerous also we have them in cyprus. i doubt the snakes are more scared of something that with a bite could kill an elephant.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:31 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


I wish it was easy Oracle. Once bitten .......................One day it will become a reality.....I think.

What we call the 'Sağır' yılan/deaf snake, is the viper. Bless them, they dont know any better. :? :?
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


aahhh Kufi... i was confused when he used the G instead. i always use G for Gala en K for Kufi ... but any way thanks
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:06 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


aahhh Kufi... i was confused when he used the G instead. i always use G for Gala en K for Kufi ... but any way thanks


Hey I don't speak Greek. Thats what it sounds like.

I heard they are deaf during certain periods and makes it easier to encounter them by mistake, which is why they are very dangerous because they don't get a chance to escape like most snakes, plus the venom :lol:
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:34 am

I actually held a baby python today for the first time in my life. They are not so bad after all, enjoyed facing my fear even though it was a baby one a meter long :P
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:31 am

paliometoxo wrote:really? like the king cobra? the rattlesnake is very dangerous also we have them in cyprus. i doubt the snakes are more scared of something that with a bite could kill an elephant.


Palio, I know you have some dangerous snakes in Cyprus.

In Australia, we have the most venomous and aggressive snakes in the world. The Inland Taipan is the most dangerous snake in the world. One drop of its venom can kill 300,000 mice.

I have seen many in the outback, and on my mate's Station. The are aggressive, but it is very unlikely you would get bitten unless the snake felt threatened or you accidentally stepped on it.

Palio, I am being very serious when I tell you that you should learn to respect these reptiles. They are beautiful, and the RoC should introduce laws to protect ALL Cypriot snake species. It would not be very good if any species became extinct on the island.

If you respect them, then it is extremely unlikely that you will get bitten.

Snake bites are very rare in Australia, and we have the 7 most deadly snakes in the world. They are even in suburbia, but the authorities also have specially trained Snake catchers which will safely relocate any Snake if it posed a risk to the public.
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:35 pm

shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


aahhh Kufi... i was confused when he used the G instead. i always use G for Gala en K for Kufi ... but any way thanks


Hey I don't speak Greek. Thats what it sounds like.

I heard they are deaf during certain periods and makes it easier to encounter them by mistake, which is why they are very dangerous because they don't get a chance to escape like most snakes, plus the venom :lol:


yes you speak turkish and english :) but what i heard was they use their vibrations to tell where they are going?

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paliometoxo wrote:really? like the king cobra? the rattlesnake is very dangerous also we have them in cyprus. i doubt the snakes are more scared of something that with a bite could kill an elephant.


Palio, I know you have some dangerous snakes in Cyprus.

In Australia, we have the most venomous and aggressive snakes in the world. The Inland Taipan is the most dangerous snake in the world. One drop of its venom can kill 300,000 mice.

I have seen many in the outback, and on my mate's Station. The are aggressive, but it is very unlikely you would get bitten unless the snake felt threatened or you accidentally stepped on it.

Palio, I am being very serious when I tell you that you should learn to respect these reptiles. They are beautiful, and the RoC should introduce laws to protect ALL Cypriot snake species. It would not be very good if any species became extinct on the island.

If you respect them, then it is extremely unlikely that you will get bitten.

Snake bites are very rare in Australia, and we have the 7 most deadly snakes in the world. They are even in suburbia, but the authorities also have specially trained Snake catchers which will safely relocate any Snake if it posed a risk to the public.


imagine walking on one of those things by accident, your not trying to hurt it but it does not know that, 5 seconds later your dead. not even that i bet. i thought king cobra was the most venomous? but i dont know much about snakes, some do look good i agree but if it where up to me we would kill them all the venomous ones any way lol and even the ones that have no venoum can be dangerous the huge 10 feet ones that wrap around you and can swallow a human that would be a nasty way to die. there is pics online of this worker who fell asleep and you see the snake swallowing the guy whole :S

i dont know why you would want to protect something so dangerous. but they are usually in the deaserts and in places you never usually go.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:40 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


aahhh Kufi... i was confused when he used the G instead. i always use G for Gala en K for Kufi ... but any way thanks


Hey I don't speak Greek. Thats what it sounds like.

I heard they are deaf during certain periods and makes it easier to encounter them by mistake, which is why they are very dangerous because they don't get a chance to escape like most snakes, plus the venom :lol:


yes you speak turkish and english :) but what i heard was they use their vibrations to tell where they are going?

Paphitis wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:really? like the king cobra? the rattlesnake is very dangerous also we have them in cyprus. i doubt the snakes are more scared of something that with a bite could kill an elephant.


Palio, I know you have some dangerous snakes in Cyprus.

In Australia, we have the most venomous and aggressive snakes in the world. The Inland Taipan is the most dangerous snake in the world. One drop of its venom can kill 300,000 mice.

I have seen many in the outback, and on my mate's Station. The are aggressive, but it is very unlikely you would get bitten unless the snake felt threatened or you accidentally stepped on it.

Palio, I am being very serious when I tell you that you should learn to respect these reptiles. They are beautiful, and the RoC should introduce laws to protect ALL Cypriot snake species. It would not be very good if any species became extinct on the island.

If you respect them, then it is extremely unlikely that you will get bitten.

Snake bites are very rare in Australia, and we have the 7 most deadly snakes in the world. They are even in suburbia, but the authorities also have specially trained Snake catchers which will safely relocate any Snake if it posed a risk to the public.


imagine walking on one of those things by accident, your not trying to hurt it but it does not know that, 5 seconds later your dead. not even that i bet. i thought king cobra was the most venomous? but i dont know much about snakes, some do look good i agree but if it where up to me we would kill them all the venomous ones any way lol and even the ones that have no venoum can be dangerous the huge 10 feet ones that wrap around you and can swallow a human that would be a nasty way to die. there is pics online of this worker who fell asleep and you see the snake swallowing the guy whole :S

i dont know why you would want to protect something so dangerous. but they are usually in the deaserts and in places you never usually go.



I know this guy; he is from Cyprus. I know that he wants to kill. Lets go and kill all who assocoate with him and problem solved. Lets say, for arguments sake he is a GC, are we going to kill ALL GC's?
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:12 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
Oracle wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:what is a gufi re deniz? the baby snake?



I think its a viper (Turkish=Engerek). Very poisonous.


"Gufi" is the general Cypriot term for any snake, meaning "deaf".

(I thought you said you were leaving :? )


aahhh Kufi... i was confused when he used the G instead. i always use G for Gala en K for Kufi ... but any way thanks


Hey I don't speak Greek. Thats what it sounds like.

I heard they are deaf during certain periods and makes it easier to encounter them by mistake, which is why they are very dangerous because they don't get a chance to escape like most snakes, plus the venom :lol:


yes you speak turkish and english :) but what i heard was they use their vibrations to tell where they are going?

Paphitis wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:really? like the king cobra? the rattlesnake is very dangerous also we have them in cyprus. i doubt the snakes are more scared of something that with a bite could kill an elephant.


Palio, I know you have some dangerous snakes in Cyprus.

In Australia, we have the most venomous and aggressive snakes in the world. The Inland Taipan is the most dangerous snake in the world. One drop of its venom can kill 300,000 mice.

I have seen many in the outback, and on my mate's Station. The are aggressive, but it is very unlikely you would get bitten unless the snake felt threatened or you accidentally stepped on it.

Palio, I am being very serious when I tell you that you should learn to respect these reptiles. They are beautiful, and the RoC should introduce laws to protect ALL Cypriot snake species. It would not be very good if any species became extinct on the island.

If you respect them, then it is extremely unlikely that you will get bitten.

Snake bites are very rare in Australia, and we have the 7 most deadly snakes in the world. They are even in suburbia, but the authorities also have specially trained Snake catchers which will safely relocate any Snake if it posed a risk to the public.


imagine walking on one of those things by accident, your not trying to hurt it but it does not know that, 5 seconds later your dead. not even that i bet. i thought king cobra was the most venomous? but i dont know much about snakes, some do look good i agree but if it where up to me we would kill them all the venomous ones any way lol and even the ones that have no venoum can be dangerous the huge 10 feet ones that wrap around you and can swallow a human that would be a nasty way to die. there is pics online of this worker who fell asleep and you see the snake swallowing the guy whole :S

i dont know why you would want to protect something so dangerous. but they are usually in the deaserts and in places you never usually go.


Palio, if you stepped on a Taipan for instance, you would be in a lot of trouble. You will get bitten. This is the deadliest snake in the world. Its venom is something like 300 times more venomous than a Rattle Snake and about 50 times more venomous than a King Cobra. It's venom will kill a healthy adult in about 45 minutes.

Here in Australia, we harvest their venom to produce anti-venom. If you are injected with this anti-venom after being bitten, then you will survive.

Now, lets be very clear about one thing. A Snake will never go out of its way to bite you. It will only bite in self defence.

Snakes are very misunderstood Palio. And in Cyprus this is a very bad thing, because people generally fear any Snake and will kill them if they could. It all comes down to education, and I firmly believe that Cypriot schools should be educating students about the various Snakes that are prevalent in Cyprus, and what to do when you encounter or are bitten by a Snake. With a bit of education, there is no reason why all Cypriots can't have a healthy respect for Cypriot Snake species and help conserve these remarkable little reptiles.

Study them Palio, and you will learn to respect them. They have a right to exist. In time, you will appreciate them, and learn to live with them and help conserve their populations because they are a treasure and serve a purpose on the island's fragile ecosystem. Cyprus will be a poorer place without them.
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