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Postby supporttheunderdog » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:32 pm

Keep it up Gasman.

The trouble is that some people consider that when someone cricistices some aspects of Cyprus, it is seen as an attack on the country as a whole.

Well they should open their eyes: NOT everything in this generally wonderful country is wonderful. There are many things which are excellent: the general amiability of most of the people, the general climate, the food, the scenery, etc., but there are a number of things where, if one is objective, there is scope for improvement, such as the standards of driving, the dubious buisiness practices of some property developers, which are now proven in one case to extend to beating up disgruntled customers, the occasional uncivil civil service, the Rusfeti, etc.

Now if anyone cannot accepti that there are genuine reasons for concern, in many cases for both Cypriots and immigrants/expats, and that some changes are needed, that person has a really big big problem, and needs to undergo mental rearrangement.

Lets' however see what we can do to address these problems, constructively: in the process God forbid we should turn Cyprus into a a little Britain in the sun , but coming friom the outside some us may well have a different perspective which might make Cyprus a better place for everyone.
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Postby Schnauzer » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:12 pm

How sad to note that each of those who have risen in support of the opinion that my post is 'Anti American', seem quite prepared to overlook the comment made by President Obama that " Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".

Surely, among those who are so ready to condemn the mention of anything that might cast a shadow on the 'Greatness' of America (more specifically American foreign policy) there MUST be one who is prepared to present an argument in support of the practice of slaughtering innocent civilians ?.

Failure to present such, is a clear indication of just how empty headed those who cannot IS, for it is only when one can present justification for an action, that THAT action (whatever it may be) becomes acceptable.

It would appear that the majority of those who respond to any post in criticism of American foreign policy OR culture, immediately assume that an attack is being launched upon the general population of America, such an assumption, once again is a clear indication of just how minute the comprehension of those who spring to the defence of America (under the conditions described) IS, for the general population of that nation is as gullible to the insincerity of it's leaders as is any other nation on earth, the development of their 'Culture' and moral standards are moulded by the tenets of the society in which they live, those tenets which are passed to them by their leaders.

If the basic instruction is wrong, the finished product can never be right.

Better one should recognize such insincerity and condemn it, than to recognize it and ignore (or worse support) it, for by so doing, one merely reveals the 'Sheep-like' qualities of one's own character. (IMHO) :wink:
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Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:35 pm

"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.
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Postby Schnauzer » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:48 pm

miltiades wrote:"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.


Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' miltiades, NOW, one small step forward.

How then (having accepted that Obama's words are correct) do you justify the savagery that was witnessed when the mighty forces of the U.S. rained down death and destruction upon the innocents of Iraq when they unlawfully attacked that nation?. :wink:

What evidence do you have that I 'Support' suicide bombers?.

Are you able to distinguish the difference between having the ability to 'Understand' the reasons for retaliation and the blind fury required to dismiss the reasons for it?.

Perfectly reasonable questions, worthy of an answer without resorting to insult and abuse. (IMHO). :wink:
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Postby Lit » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:20 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.


Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' miltiades, NOW, one small step forward.

How then (having accepted that Obama's words are correct) do you justify the savagery that was witnessed when the mighty forces of the U.S. rained down death and destruction upon the innocents of Iraq when they unlawfully attacked that nation?. :wink:



Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' Shnoz, NOW, one small step forward. Obama didn't attack or invade Iraq...lol, he inherited that war from his predecessor. He was always against it from the very beginning and always stated so while campaigning for the Presidency in 2008 saying that if elected he would implement a withdrawal timetable in Iraq. Get your facts right.

Times are changing and i love the changes:

U.S. threatens Turkey with stronger support for Genocide Resolution
http://news.am/eng/news/37654.html

God bless the United States of America :wink:
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Postby Schnauzer » Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:45 pm

Lit wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.


Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' miltiades, NOW, one small step forward.

How then (having accepted that Obama's words are correct) do you justify the savagery that was witnessed when the mighty forces of the U.S. rained down death and destruction upon the innocents of Iraq when they unlawfully attacked that nation?. :wink:



Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' Shnoz, NOW, one small step forward. Obama didn't attack or invade Iraq...lol, he inherited that war from his predecessor. He was always against it from the very beginning and always stated so while campaigning for the Presidency in 2008 saying that if elected he would implement a withdrawal timetable in Iraq. Get your facts right.

Times are changing and i love the changes:

U.S. threatens Turkey with stronger support for Genocide Resolution
http://news.am/eng/news/37654.html

God bless the United States of America :wink:


"Lit", In your eagerness to 'Score Points' and establish your credentials as a supporter of 'American foreign policies', I fear you have overlooked the fact that I DID indicate that President Obama was under pressure to repair the damage caused by his 'PREDECESSOR' (naturally assuming that one would not need to be reminded of the unlawful attack on the innocent civilians of that nation), it is precisely because of THAT point, that I was astonished to note that Obama (or more likely his speech writer) chose to include the statement that " Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".

I do believe that there is no question about the accuracy of my 'Facts', since they are but a few days old. (Obama's very recent address to the Indian Parliament).

As to the U.S. threats to Turkey, the Yanks are forever threatening some other nation, it's called 'Intimidation' I believe. :lol: :lol: :wink:

Incidentally, do not allow the negativity of miltiades to infiltrate YOUR posts, my avatar is 'Schnauzer' not 'Schnoz (I believe a gentleman in showbusiness, Jimmy Durante, was keeper of such title). :wink:
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Postby Lit » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:13 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Lit wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.


Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' miltiades, NOW, one small step forward.

How then (having accepted that Obama's words are correct) do you justify the savagery that was witnessed when the mighty forces of the U.S. rained down death and destruction upon the innocents of Iraq when they unlawfully attacked that nation?. :wink:



Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' Shnoz, NOW, one small step forward. Obama didn't attack or invade Iraq...lol, he inherited that war from his predecessor. He was always against it from the very beginning and always stated so while campaigning for the Presidency in 2008 saying that if elected he would implement a withdrawal timetable in Iraq. Get your facts right.

Times are changing and i love the changes:

U.S. threatens Turkey with stronger support for Genocide Resolution
http://news.am/eng/news/37654.html

God bless the United States of America :wink:


"Lit", In your eagerness to 'Score Points' and establish your credentials as a supporter of 'American foreign policies', I fear you have overlooked the fact that I DID indicate that President Obama was under pressure to repair the damage caused by his 'PREDECESSOR' (naturally assuming that one would not need to be reminded of the unlawful attack on the innocent civilians of that nation), it is precisely because of THAT point, that I was astonished to note that Obama (or more likely his speech writer) chose to include the statement that " Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".

I do believe that there is no question about the accuracy of my 'Facts', since they are but a few days old. (Obama's very recent address to the Indian Parliament).

As to the U.S. threats to Turkey, the Yanks are forever threatening some other nation, it's called 'Intimidation' I believe. :lol: :lol: :wink:

Incidentally, do not allow the negativity of miltiades to infiltrate YOUR posts, my avatar is 'Schnauzer' not 'Schnoz (I believe a gentleman in showbusiness, Jimmy Durante, was keeper of such title). :wink:


Ridiculous.

I haven't overlooked anything and you are wrong on ALL counts. The name Shnoz was given to you long before you butted heads with Milti. lol

Because i want you to keep crying:



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Postby Get Real! » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:31 pm

Gasman wrote:Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

:? Are you by any chance implying that the US is NOT committing War Crimes and/or that Cyprus is or has done?

If not then what on earth are you mumbling about anyway?
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Postby miltiades » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:35 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Gasman wrote:Shouldn't this be in one of the 'EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD EXCEPT CYPRUS is Committing War Crimes' GR Rant threads?

Some of the GC views expressed here regarding the US and all things US are obviously not shared by many otherwise ... why would all those Greek Cypriots choose to live there?

:? Are you by any chance implying that the US is NOT committing War Crimes and/or that Cyprus is or has done?

If not then what on earth are you mumbling about anyway?

Stupid put a sock in it .ate assixtir trava na pas na gamithis me tous Taliban kolopedo !!
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Postby Schnauzer » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:29 pm

Lit wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
Lit wrote:
Schnauzer wrote:
miltiades wrote:"Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".
You are damn right mate so why on earth are you supporting the suicide bombers justifying such barbaric acts with the usual " what else can they do " you make me sick plonker with your blatant stupidity.


Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' miltiades, NOW, one small step forward.

How then (having accepted that Obama's words are correct) do you justify the savagery that was witnessed when the mighty forces of the U.S. rained down death and destruction upon the innocents of Iraq when they unlawfully attacked that nation?. :wink:





Thank you for your 'Anticipated Response' Shnoz, NOW, one small step forward. Obama didn't attack or invade Iraq...lol, he inherited that war from his predecessor. He was always against it from the very beginning and always stated so while campaigning for the Presidency in 2008 saying that if elected he would implement a withdrawal timetable in Iraq. Get your facts right.

Times are changing and i love the changes:

U.S. threatens Turkey with stronger support for Genocide Resolution
http://news.am/eng/news/37654.html

God bless the United States of America :wink:


"Lit", In your eagerness to 'Score Points' and establish your credentials as a supporter of 'American foreign policies', I fear you have overlooked the fact that I DID indicate that President Obama was under pressure to repair the damage caused by his 'PREDECESSOR' (naturally assuming that one would not need to be reminded of the unlawful attack on the innocent civilians of that nation), it is precisely because of THAT point, that I was astonished to note that Obama (or more likely his speech writer) chose to include the statement that " Nothing EVER justifies the slaughter of innocent men, women and children".

I do believe that there is no question about the accuracy of my 'Facts', since they are but a few days old. (Obama's very recent address to the Indian Parliament).

As to the U.S. threats to Turkey, the Yanks are forever threatening some other nation, it's called 'Intimidation' I believe. :lol: :lol: :wink:

Incidentally, do not allow the negativity of miltiades to infiltrate YOUR posts, my avatar is 'Schnauzer' not 'Schnoz (I believe a gentleman in showbusiness, Jimmy Durante, was keeper of such title). :wink:


Ridiculous.

I haven't overlooked anything and you are wrong on ALL counts. The name Shnoz was given to you long before you butted heads with Milti. lol

Because i want you to keep crying:



:lol:


If I may be so bold, I DID state in my original post that the comments I referred to were taken from President Obama's 'Address to India's Parliament', the possibility exists (actually it is a fact but I would not wish to press the matter) that the video YOU present is of an entirely different meeting and the aforesaid comments are therefore , not included.

If you are prepared to allow yourself to be influenced by the euphoria that invariably attends 'Stage Managed' presentations, you have my sympathy, 'I' prefer to use my own senses to determine the difference between right and wrong, together with actual living experiences before making decisions on where to place the responsibility for evil actions.

I am ever cautious about forming opinions before I have ALL the evidence before me, naturally there are times when I may be wrong, acceptance of that fact is THE firmest basis for a civilized debate, quite rare on this particular forum unfortunately. :lol: :lol: :wink:

I suggest that you should reconsider that which you state you have NOT overlooked since you obviously HAVE. :wink:

If you find humour in addressing me as 'Schnoz', be my guest, "Little things please little minds" would appear to be an appropriate counter to your veiled insult. :lol: :wink:
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