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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Dec 15, 2010 12:52 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:I object to the heading of this thread...When the IRA wsa bombing and killling military and civilian targets alike,would you have said 'WELCOME TO VATICAN'...No,because you are a hypocrit,and an Islamophobic bigot...

Organised religion is not my cup of tea,but you have to respect a religion which has 1.5 billion followers worldwide...


why? i bet just as many people believe in horoscopes worldwide. i don't respect that superstition either.

BirKibrisli wrote:All but a few thousand of them decent,Godfearing,peaceful souls... :roll:


sure. but i don't have to respect their religion. and i don't.


That makes you an ignorant,intolerant,irrepressible bigot...happy to live with that tag??? :D


not at all. and ur an idiot for drawing that conclusion. irrational beliefs can be incredibly dangerous and should be treated with healthy cynicism if not contempt; not respected, simply because the number of those deluded is large.


As long as you have the same opinion on the Greek Orthodox Church and other Christian denominations,you would have that right...Why is one group's delusions more respectable than others'???


yes... and i got the same opinion on those who believe there's a china teapot revolving between the earth and mars in an elliptical orbit. wot is this? hypocracy is not something ur gonna catch me out on, birki.


Still,a lot of people's lives and values are based on their religious beliefs,so I believe we should respect that,and not try to impose our more "enlightened" opinions on them...


so what's to respect? people who only have values the priest spoon fed them? who only do the right thing because they fear god and don't want to go to hell?

BirKibrisli wrote:That doesn't mean we should tolerate any acts we consider barbaric in this day and age, which they use their religion to justify...Blanket condemnation of all religions would make us as small-minded and intolerant as those whose faith-based actions we condemn...


"blanket condemnation" is not the same as "not having respect". so don't be small minded and put words in my mouth - just because u know u've lost an argument.

i wouldn't condemn, for example, people who think there's an invisible pink giraffe called Gerry at the end of the garden, that sometimes makes things go all right, but often doesn't, 'cos Gerry works in mysterious ways. I'd pity them.


I am sorry,I forgot who I was talking to...Of course you are right,100%...

All around the world,billions of good,decent people's identity and self worth is wrapped up in their religious believes,but hey,What is there to respect??? I forgot you represent the mentality that respects nothing but what is in your own interest...ENOSIS with Greece was your legitimate right,why should you respect the TC feelings about it,right? The AKRITAS plan was a legitimate attempt to put those pesty TCs in their place,right?
Why should you respect the TC objections,right? Driving the TCs out of government was in the GC interest,why should you respect the TCs rights,right? Sorry I forgot who I was talking to for a second...Now I know better...Yep,I lost the argument,you are right,on everything,100%...I apologise for having the audacity to be born in Cyprus to TC parents...
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Postby CrookedRiverGuy » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:00 am

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False flag or not; R.I.P. young man! (Rest in pieces)
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:02 am

BirKibrisli wrote:All around the world,billions of good,decent people's identity and self worth is wrapped up in their religious believes,but hey,What is there to respect??? I forgot you represent the mentality that respects nothing but what is in your own interest...ENOSIS with Greece was your legitimate right,why should you respect the TC feelings about it,right? The AKRITAS plan was a legitimate attempt to put those pesty TCs in their place,right?
Why should you respect the TC objections,right? Driving the TCs out of government was in the GC interest,why should you respect the TCs rights,right? Sorry I forgot who I was talking to for a second...Now I know better...Yep,I lost the argument,you are right,on everything,100%...I apologise for having the audacity to be born in Cyprus to TC parents...


:lol: i thought muslims weren't supposed to drink...
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Postby Daniella » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:06 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:All around the world,billions of good,decent people's identity and self worth is wrapped up in their religious believes,but hey,What is there to respect??? I forgot you represent the mentality that respects nothing but what is in your own interest...ENOSIS with Greece was your legitimate right,why should you respect the TC feelings about it,right? The AKRITAS plan was a legitimate attempt to put those pesty TCs in their place,right?
Why should you respect the TC objections,right? Driving the TCs out of government was in the GC interest,why should you respect the TCs rights,right? Sorry I forgot who I was talking to for a second...Now I know better...Yep,I lost the argument,you are right,on everything,100%...I apologise for having the audacity to be born in Cyprus to TC parents...


:lol: i thought muslims weren't supposed to drink...


I have the same problem with runaway in another topic ! :roll:
ALCOOL IS FORBIDDEN for muslims :lol:
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Postby Ethem » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:09 am

sorry to butt in to the conversation BirKibrisli and ZoC, but even though I'm not a religious man I still believe that every person has the right to believe in whatever they wish and follow any faith they have...the essence of all religions is basically the same...be a good person, respect others, etc. etc.

and I think there's a lesson in that for all of us...Religious or non-religious...We should respect one another...and respect that everyone will have different thoughts and beliefs and they have that right to do so...

ZoC, i dont think it's irrational belief that can be dangerous....I think its mis-education...or the lack of education which makes people very gullible and easily tricked in to believing what they are told...i.e. telling someone who is uneducated killing people will take them to the kingdom of god, they do not have the smarts to question how that can be when religion clearly prohibits taking the life of another person...I believe all religions clearly preach that is god's job, and god alone
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:10 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:All around the world,billions of good,decent people's identity and self worth is wrapped up in their religious believes,but hey,What is there to respect??? I forgot you represent the mentality that respects nothing but what is in your own interest...ENOSIS with Greece was your legitimate right,why should you respect the TC feelings about it,right? The AKRITAS plan was a legitimate attempt to put those pesty TCs in their place,right?
Why should you respect the TC objections,right? Driving the TCs out of government was in the GC interest,why should you respect the TCs rights,right? Sorry I forgot who I was talking to for a second...Now I know better...Yep,I lost the argument,you are right,on everything,100%...I apologise for having the audacity to be born in Cyprus to TC parents...


:lol: i thought muslims weren't supposed to drink...


If you think I am drunk at 10am you are a worse imbecile than I thought!
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:14 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:All around the world,billions of good,decent people's identity and self worth is wrapped up in their religious believes,but hey,What is there to respect??? I forgot you represent the mentality that respects nothing but what is in your own interest...ENOSIS with Greece was your legitimate right,why should you respect the TC feelings about it,right? The AKRITAS plan was a legitimate attempt to put those pesty TCs in their place,right?
Why should you respect the TC objections,right? Driving the TCs out of government was in the GC interest,why should you respect the TCs rights,right? Sorry I forgot who I was talking to for a second...Now I know better...Yep,I lost the argument,you are right,on everything,100%...I apologise for having the audacity to be born in Cyprus to TC parents...


:lol: i thought muslims weren't supposed to drink...


If you think I am drunk at 10am you are a worse imbecile than I thought!


u sure? i'm worried about u... where did all that shit come from if it wasn't the drink talking?
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Postby ZoC » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:17 am

Ethem wrote:sorry to butt in to the conversation BirKibrisli and ZoC, but even though I'm not a religious man I still believe that every person has the right to believe in whatever they wish and follow any faith they have...the essence of all religions is basically the same...be a good person, respect others, etc. etc.

and I think there's a lesson in that for all of us...Religious or non-religious...We should respect one another...and respect that everyone will have different thoughts and beliefs and they have that right to do so...

ZoC, i dont think it's irrational belief that can be dangerous....I think its mis-education...or the lack of education which makes people very gullible and easily tricked in to believing what they are told...i.e. telling someone who is uneducated killing people will take them to the kingdom of god, they do not have the smarts to question how that can be when religion clearly prohibits taking the life of another person...I believe all religions clearly preach that is god's job, and god alone


of course irrational belief can be dangerous. if u believe - irrationally - that you can fly and then throw urself off a tall building, that's dangerous. tony blair (an educated man) believed invading iraq was the right thing to do... that was not only dangerous, it was disastrous. (he's a catholic now - go figure).
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:48 am

The “suicide bomber” is clearly an Anglo-American invention and has no ties to Islam whatsoever!

So how do we know that?

Because prior to any Anglo-American invasion of an Arab/Muslim country, no such thing as a “suicide bomber” ever existed!

Surely if suicide bombing was part of the religious Islamic doctrine it would’ve always been happening for decades but no!

Why is it that wherever the criminal Anglo-Americans have invaded suicide bombers soon follow? Coincidence?

I DON’T THINK SO! :evil:
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:59 am

So how do you persuade someone to blow them selves up?

YOU DON’T! Because nobody is that stupid!

But here’s how it can happen…

You can easily convince a fool in return for a financial reward, to supposedly deliver a package (and pretend it is drugs or even an explosive device not yet “enabled”) and ask them to park at a specific location so that it can be given to an imaginary recipient who will supposedly meet them there… and then from a distance remotely detonate the package killing the fool who becomes the “suicide bomber”!
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