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Does the turks' hypocrisy know any bounds?

Postby Silenus » Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:19 am

http://www.todayszaman.com/columnistDetail_getNewsById.action?newsId=231563

Is Greece building Europe’s wall?

It is almost as if some EU member countries that don’t want Turkey’s accession have become stuck because they seem to be desperately searching for new exclusionist measures. These EU countries also act as if Turkey is not in the middle of a technical process, called the “accession negotiations,” which carries legal obligations and rights.

As everyone knows, the history of the relationship between Turkey and Greece is far from being a tale of good neighbors. Despite this, a new period appeared to be dawning, with small steps being taken and we were able to say, at least until recently, that Greece wasn’t one of the main obstacles to Turkey’s accession to the EU. Moreover, Greece had regularly announced that it was supportive of Turkey’s efforts to join the EU, and the two countries had decided not to make the EU process and the Cyprus issue variables of the Turkey-Greece relationship. Thanks to this atmosphere, new initiatives for cooperation became possible across the Aegean Sea, and the two neighbors had stopped considering each other as a military threat.

The enviroment was promising. However, recent news reports have the potential to put an end to this positive atmosphere once and for all. First, the European Union’s agency for external border security, Frontex, has been deployed at the Turkish-Greek border in the fight against illegal immigration. One mustn’t think that Greece is a very attractive country for immigrants or that this country’s social fabric is under risk because of massive immigration from the East. Naturally, the problem is not that these people stay in Greece but they pass through on their way to other Western European countries.

Despite the image generated by this measure, Turkey is actually not the main route for illegal immigrants headed toward the EU: The most important crossing points are often from Ukraine and Northern Africa. Nevertheless, there is one important detail: The EU insists on a readmission agreement with Turkey while the latter is taking its time because it doesn’t have this kind of agreement with third party countries which are often the source of the illegal immigrants. If there is a readmission agreement between Turkey and the EU, Turkey will have to take back all immigrants who have transited through Turkey without having a chance of deporting them to their countries of origin.

In this context, Greece has made a critical decision, which is nothing but shameful for the 21st century. A 206-kilometer wall will be erected along the Maritsa River, justifying its existence by the presence of a similar border fence between Mexico and the United States. If a wall is necessary on the land, we can guess that the security measures will also be strengthened in the sea, which is an omen for renewed tension in the Aegean.

It’s not known if the EU will be protected from immigration as a result of the Greek wall, but at a time when Albanians no longer need a visa to travel to Schengen countries, Greece may do better to build a longer wall to cover all its land borders. It would be reminiscent of Israel, which has, in doing so, become a country that has put itself in a prison while trying to protect its borders. Maybe this wall idea came from the Israelis with whom Greeks are now good friends.

This wall symbolizes one and only thing -- declaring physically that Turkey is outside of Europe. Maybe the partners who have helped Greece economically have asked for this favor. In other words, maybe those who have provided the money asked for this contribution to exclude Turkey from Europe. Greece shouldn’t forget that it’s always the third party countries that benefit from Turkish-Greek tensions. This wall will probably not stop the immigration, but it can definitely terminate the confidence between the two neighbors.


declaring physically that Turkey is outside of Europe

Do these people not have maps?
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Postby Klik » Wed Jan 05, 2011 8:31 am

Turkey is not one of the main routes of illegal immigrants, yet douzin of boats come each day carrying people to ship them into Greece...
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Postby insan » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:37 pm

Does the turks' hypocrisy know any bounds?


No it does not! Keep bashing the "Turks" that maybe includes u! :lol: What about Turks? :lol: Oh I forgot Turks created by the God as barbarians! :lol: So why do u go against the God by going against the barbars he created? Which God do u believe in? The Sky God? :lol: Why did the God discriminate and created the Turks as barbarians but it created Greeks as the most humane, civilised nation? :lol:

The ridiculous Greek mythology has no bounds! :lol: The art of exagerration! :lol:
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Postby Cap » Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:40 pm

Good on them. Build it as high and long as possible.
Probably the only good proposal to come out of that socialist failed state in the last 20 years.
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Postby lola-tulip » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:37 pm

Of course it is Greece which suffers as the nearest neighbour to Turkey. These problems will not disappear if Turkey is allowed into the EU; can only get worse.





The whole EU should be funding and supporting this initiative via Frontex, despite what Turkophiles mumble.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/42f5934c-1834 ... z1AGUXaoKn



Next should be more helicopter and boat patrols along the Mediterranean, despite Turkish harassment:

http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_g ... sId=187356



Cyprus has the right idea too. :)

Cyprus Police Get Two New Helicopters

Sat, 18/12/2010 - 13:00 — Adrienne Morley

The Ministry of Justice has taken delivery of two new AW139 medium twin engine helicopters, said manufacturer AgustaWestland.

The aircraft will be used to perform law enforcement, border patrol, search and rescue, and emergency medical services operations.

The purchase covers the Cyprus Flight Information Region (FIR) and EU's Frontex operational requirements, said AgustaWestland.
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Postby lola-tulip » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:32 pm

''Co-operation with other EU states is going well. Now we plan to construct a fence to deal with illegal migration,'' he [Christos Papoutsis] said on Monday. ''The Greek public has reached its limit in taking in illegal immigrants. We are absolutely determined on this issue. Greece can't take it any more.''


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Officers from the EU border agency, Frontex, assist Greek police near the Turkish border.



Arrests of illegal immigrants entering Greece from Turkey increased five-fold, to 31,219, in the first nine months of last year, the only EU land border to show a rise. Frontex, the EU's border agency, has estimated that the Greek-Turkey border is responsible for up to 90 per cent of illegal immigration, mainly from Iraq, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan.


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/world/g ... 19f2z.html
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Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:38 pm

good idea to stop illegal immigrants coming in.....finally some good news, should have been built years ago
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Postby lola-tulip » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:45 pm

Hallo AEKTZIS :)

Greece has the support of the EU; and Frontex has been building up to this for a long time.


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Postby AEKTZIS » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:48 pm

thanks for the welcome :) Greece needs all the help it can get.

Unfortunately the strong left wing is looking to destroy the country again....

However, human rights groups and labor unions have slammed the plan. The civil servants’ union ADEDY and a group called United Against Racism and the Fascist Threat have called a rally for Saturday, January 15 to protest against the fence’s construction.

“When we heard about the fence, it evoked memories of concentration camps,” said City of Athens councilor and protest organizer Petros Constantinou. “The government is talking about stopping illegal immigrants getting into the country when some of these people are refugees who warrant international protection.”

“They are trying to turn the Greek worker against migrants by claiming that they are stealing his bread,” said ADEDY board member Despina Spanou. “It is not true.”
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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 07, 2011 10:39 pm

I'm willing to contribute extra towards my ΔEH bill if they electrify this fence. :D
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