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[ZoC]

Morning the above comments mean absolutely nothing because they produce no resullts you have not regained one inch of the north since you whored yorselves out to the "superpower" you claim is the EU.

Please address the issues and not make excuses for not doing so.

As for the new Turkish ambassador to the TRNC he will only add to the problem of TC unrest if he is not careful, they may take an unprecedented move and physically throw this guy out of office. Then we will see some fireworks.

VP throwing him out of the office, it will seems that you throw Turkey out of the window do you accept that move

If you throw petrol on fire what happens? but in all honesty the push over TC attitude will prevail and all will just blow over.

tcs have always been a bunch of lightweights. and ur praying they will be lightweights now - and it'll all blow over. 'cos ur the biggest lightweight of them all.

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antifon

1. they cannot have a "state" because they do not have land

We already have our own state albeit unrecognized all you have to do is look north or show your passport when you try to cross into it.

2. gCypriots are all they have short of extincion

We do not have GCs nor do we want them in a shape where they take the whole island and reduce us into minority status.

3. they must drop the hypocrisy act and acknowledge 1960 was a farce

Its what you have to abide by but refuse to do so and the 13 points are testament to this.

4. their best option is to negotiate their way back to the Republic

Get your leaders to put this up for negotiation if they have the balls.

You appear to be avoiding my questions is it because you do not have the answers?

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As for the new Turkish ambassador to the TRNC he will only add to the problem of TC unrest if he is not careful, they may take an unprecedented move and physically throw this guy out of office. Then we will see some fireworks.

He is not an Ambassador. He's not even a politician. But he is just about the most appropriate person to send to the north to handle Turkey's affairs financially for an occupying power. Even Turkey is beginning not to recognise her own creation, the "trnc", hence not sending a full Ambassador to the north.

When I think about it, I always felt sorry for all those Ambassadors who were sent to the north before. I mean, what kind of a screw up does a politician in Turkey needs to do to be punished by sending them to a post to a unrecognised and legally invalid location to represent his/her country of Turkey. Surely, a 10 year jail sentence in Turkey would have looked much better on their CV when they applied for a new job upon their release from jail than have a "trnc's" ambassadorship on their record.!

His full title is Turkiye Buyuk Elci.....work it out the rest of your post is a load of hogwash and bears no relevance to anything.

[antifon]

November 30th 1963

It is an honorable and just basis. We want Turkey out too. We want to go to our homes and towns. We want to live with you. But with respect. 1960 was offensive to the gCypriots. I hope you all can see that. An updated, negotiated 1963 can be the new Cypriot beginning.

November 30th 1963
http://antifon.blogspot.com/2010/12/pre ... osals.html

Tell Talat [I feel he is a politician who embodies the hopes and aspirations of tCypriots & can negotiate well, not the puppet Eroglu] to negotiate a solid deal with Christofias based on 1963, and to agree to implement it gradually so that Cypriots' lives are disrupted as little as possible.

Then, cross over. All of you. March 2nd? (in 18 days?)

Otherwise Turkey will never leave. She may make promises. She will stall for time. She may even show her true, ugly, face. Ask the Kurds, they have been waiting for 87 years.

Am I the only one to see this simple truth?

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antifon

November 30th 1963

It is an honorable and just basis. We want Turkey out too. We want to go to our homes and towns. We want to live with you. But with respect. 1960 was offensive to the gCypriots. I hope you all can see that. An updated, negotiated 1963 can be the new Cypriot beginning.

It was rejected then and will be again you are flogging a dead horse. Thats why we are still negotiating to find middle ground where you will not be offended but anything short of giving you everything you demand you continue to reject.

Tell Talat [I feel he is a politician who embodies the hopes and aspirations of tCypriots & can negotiate well, not the puppet Eroglu] to negotiate a solid deal with Christofias based on 1963, and to agree to implement it gradually so that Cypriots' lives are disrupted as little as possible.

Talat is not longer our leader you lost that chance, we warned to move forward but your ignored us.

Then, cross over. All of you. March 2nd? (in 18 days?)

Why?

Otherwise Turkey will never leave. She may make promises. She will stall for time. She may even show her true, ugly, face. Ask the Kurds, they have been waiting for 87 years.

Why should they leave, we want them to stay until of if we should ever find a solution.

Am I the only one to see this simple truth?

According to you, your truth is not necessarily the truth.

[antifon]

antifon

November 30th 1963

It is an honorable and just basis. We want Turkey out too. We want to go to our homes and towns. We want to live with you. But with respect. 1960 was offensive to the gCypriots. I hope you all can see that. An updated, negotiated 1963 can be the new Cypriot beginning.

It was rejected then and will be again you are flogging a dead horse. Thats why we are still negotiating to find middle ground where you will not be offended but anything short of giving you everything you demand you continue to reject.

IT WAS REJECTED BY TURKEY. NOT THE tCYPRIOTS. SHALL IS SEND YOU THE LINK?

Tell Talat [I feel he is a politician who embodies the hopes and aspirations of tCypriots & can negotiate well, not the puppet Eroglu] to negotiate a solid deal with Christofias based on 1963, and to agree to implement it gradually so that Cypriots' lives are disrupted as little as possible.

Talat is not longer our leader you lost that chance, we warned to move forward but your ignored us.
DEAR FRIEND, YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE. EROGLU WAS VOTED IN WITH SETTLER'S VOTES. YOU NEED A LEADER AND TALAT HAS THE EXPERIENCE TO DO IT. ANY OTHER CHOICE OF LEADER AND THE SOLUTION TO BE FOUND WILL MAKE 1963 LOOK TO tCYPRIOTS "IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PARADISE"

Then, cross over. All of you. March 2nd? (in 18 days?)

Why?
SALVATION. BECAUSE THE TSK/ERHENEKON/MIT HAVE HAD JUST ABOUT ENOUGH OF YOU. THEY ARE FASCISTS, REMEMBER?

Otherwise Turkey will never leave. She may make promises. She will stall for time. She may even show her true, ugly, face. Ask the Kurds, they have been waiting for 87 years.

Why should they leave, we want them to stay until of if we should ever find a solution.
YOU DON'T. YOU ARE A PATHETIC MINORITY, IF A tCYPRIOT AT ALL.

Am I the only one to see this simple truth?

According to you, your truth is not necessarily the truth.

AS I SAID BEFORE, THESE WORDS ARE NOT FOR YOU, BUT FOR tCYPRIOTS WITH THAT RARE COMBINATION OF BRAINS AND HEART.

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Anti you cannot pick and choose who has brains and a heart as we all do just because they reject the symbol which is known as our death warrant that was rejected back then and would be rejected again today. You need to move forwards not backwards our leaders are discussing the possibility of a BBF with political equality.

[Kikapu]

As for the new Turkish ambassador to the TRNC he will only add to the problem of TC unrest if he is not careful, they may take an unprecedented move and physically throw this guy out of office. Then we will see some fireworks.

He is not an Ambassador. He's not even a politician. But he is just about the most appropriate person to send to the north to handle Turkey's affairs financially for an occupying power. Even Turkey is beginning not to recognise her own creation, the "trnc", hence not sending a full Ambassador to the north.

When I think about it, I always felt sorry for all those Ambassadors who were sent to the north before. I mean, what kind of a screw up does a politician in Turkey needs to do to be punished by sending them to a post to a unrecognised and legally invalid location to represent his/her country of Turkey. Surely, a 10 year jail sentence in Turkey would have looked much better on their CV when they applied for a new job upon their release from jail than have a "trnc's" ambassadorship on their record.!

His full title is Turkiye Buyuk Elci.....work it out the rest of your post is a load of hogwash and bears no relevance to anything.

If I may use your famous slogan, "By putting a racing saddle on a donkey, it doesn't make the donkey a racing horse". Just by adding "Turkiye Buyuk Elci" to his name, it doesn't make him an Ambassador. Even your hero Denktash, senior and junior are against this guy not being a diplomat, let alone being an Ambassador. But of course, the word ambassador can apply to anyone you want to really, such as Pele being an Ambassador to Brazil's national football team and so on, and he is also not a politician or a diplomat. Even you were upset about this guys appointment to the "trnc" and threatened that the "TCs would throw him out". Even Turkish reporters do not see him as a "Ambassador".

It is important to know that Turkey is approaching the end of the road in northern Cyprus. The removal of Turkish Ambassador Kaya Türkmen last Thursday and his replacement by a non-diplomat in charge of the austerity plan marks a turning point and a milestone on the road to de jure annexation. It shows the Turkish intent to not even pretend to consider northern Cyprus as an independent country and calls a spade a spade, or a protectorate a protectorate.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-02-11

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As for the new Turkish ambassador to the TRNC he will only add to the problem of TC unrest if he is not careful, they may take an unprecedented move and physically throw this guy out of office. Then we will see some fireworks.

He is not an Ambassador. He's not even a politician. But he is just about the most appropriate person to send to the north to handle Turkey's affairs financially for an occupying power. Even Turkey is beginning not to recognise her own creation, the "trnc", hence not sending a full Ambassador to the north.

When I think about it, I always felt sorry for all those Ambassadors who were sent to the north before. I mean, what kind of a screw up does a politician in Turkey needs to do to be punished by sending them to a post to a unrecognised and legally invalid location to represent his/her country of Turkey. Surely, a 10 year jail sentence in Turkey would have looked much better on their CV when they applied for a new job upon their release from jail than have a "trnc's" ambassadorship on their record.!

His full title is Turkiye Buyuk Elci.....work it out the rest of your post is a load of hogwash and bears no relevance to anything.

If I may use your famous slogan, "By putting a racing saddle on a donkey, it doesn't make the donkey a racing horse". Just by adding "Turkiye Buyuk Elci" to his name, it doesn't make him an Ambassador. Even your hero Denktash, senior and junior are against this guy not being a diplomat, let alone being an Ambassador. But of course, the word ambassador can apply to anyone you want to really, such as Pele being an Ambassador to Brazil's national football team and so on, and he is also not a politician or a diplomat. Even you were upset about this guys appointment to the "trnc" and threatened that the "TCs would throw him out". Even Turkish reporters do not see him as a "Ambassador".

It is important to know that Turkey is approaching the end of the road in northern Cyprus. The removal of Turkish Ambassador Kaya Türkmen last Thursday and his replacement by a non-diplomat in charge of the austerity plan marks a turning point and a milestone on the road to de jure annexation. It shows the Turkish intent to not even pretend to consider northern Cyprus as an independent country and calls a spade a spade, or a protectorate a protectorate.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-02-11

Why are you so preoccupied with this guys credentials Turkey has decided he is their Buyuk Elci which when translated means big ambassador to the TRNC. How he deals with the TCs is more important as he has been thrown into a time when TCs are restless if he takes wrong steps it will only fuel the unrest, if he does a good job he will calm the storm and things will go back to normal.

[Kikapu]

As for the new Turkish ambassador to the TRNC he will only add to the problem of TC unrest if he is not careful, they may take an unprecedented move and physically throw this guy out of office. Then we will see some fireworks.

He is not an Ambassador. He's not even a politician. But he is just about the most appropriate person to send to the north to handle Turkey's affairs financially for an occupying power. Even Turkey is beginning not to recognise her own creation, the "trnc", hence not sending a full Ambassador to the north.

When I think about it, I always felt sorry for all those Ambassadors who were sent to the north before. I mean, what kind of a screw up does a politician in Turkey needs to do to be punished by sending them to a post to a unrecognised and legally invalid location to represent his/her country of Turkey. Surely, a 10 year jail sentence in Turkey would have looked much better on their CV when they applied for a new job upon their release from jail than have a "trnc's" ambassadorship on their record.!

His full title is Turkiye Buyuk Elci.....work it out the rest of your post is a load of hogwash and bears no relevance to anything.

If I may use your famous slogan, "By putting a racing saddle on a donkey, it doesn't make the donkey a racing horse". Just by adding "Turkiye Buyuk Elci" to his name, it doesn't make him an Ambassador. Even your hero Denktash, senior and junior are against this guy not being a diplomat, let alone being an Ambassador. But of course, the word ambassador can apply to anyone you want to really, such as Pele being an Ambassador to Brazil's national football team and so on, and he is also not a politician or a diplomat. Even you were upset about this guys appointment to the "trnc" and threatened that the "TCs would throw him out". Even Turkish reporters do not see him as a "Ambassador".

It is important to know that Turkey is approaching the end of the road in northern Cyprus. The removal of Turkish Ambassador Kaya Türkmen last Thursday and his replacement by a non-diplomat in charge of the austerity plan marks a turning point and a milestone on the road to de jure annexation. It shows the Turkish intent to not even pretend to consider northern Cyprus as an independent country and calls a spade a spade, or a protectorate a protectorate.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-02-11

Why are you so preoccupied with this guys credentials Turkey has decided he is their Buyuk Elci which when translated means big ambassador to the TRNC. How he deals with the TCs is more important as he has been thrown into a time when TCs are restless if he takes wrong steps it will only fuel the unrest, if he does a good job he will calm the storm and things will go back to normal.

I'm not upset at all. I just call it as it is.!

It has nothing to do with what this guy can do or can't do economically in the north. That is not the reason as to why the leaders in the north are pissed off. It has to do with Turkey downgrading the "trnc" from a "independent country" to a province of Turkey. You can figure out the rest as to what all that means..