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Postby voyou » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:43 pm

Just to add my condolences.

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Postby stripey » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:00 pm

Deepest sympathy to all in Cyprus, especially the families of the victims.
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Postby Yiannis » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:41 pm

I was shocked listening to the news.My deep sympathies to all relatives of the victims and god may rest their soul.

is anyone aware of what went wrong exactly? there were terrorist speculations but im not sure about that. if im not mistaken though the plane was shot down to ensure that it did not crash in a populated area.


It was an accident and not a result of a terrorist act. From what i heard there was a sadden drop in the cabbin pressure and the pilots lost their consciousness.Therefore the plane was travelling on its own by the automatic pilot and crashed when it ran out of fuel.
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Postby magikthrill » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:53 pm

Yiannis wrote:
It was an accident and not a result of a terrorist act. From what i heard there was a sadden drop in the cabbin pressure and the pilots lost their consciousness.Therefore the plane was travelling on its own by the automatic pilot and crashed when it ran out of fuel.


I heard the same.

However, I am almost positive the plane was shot down by the Hellenic Air Forces.

First of all, even if there wasnt a pressure accident the fuel would have been more than enough to get to Athens.

Secondly, do you think its a coincident that the plan crashed just 15 km north of the airport?

Thirdly, the plane crashed in an uninhabited area.

The plane was definitely shot down to prevent a crash in residential areas and to prevent the spread of panick to the entire city seeing as during the time the plane was in the air it was quite possible that a terrorist attack was still a major speculation (especially when you see an absent pilot and a slumped co pilot).


I believe according to law if you do not receive contact from the pilot when you enter greek air space they have the right to shoot you down. A
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Postby Main_Source » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:54 pm

My cousin is a steward for Helios but he wasnt on that flight.

I tool the same root last year on the same airline...its so creepy.

I still feel upset when I think about this.

My deepest condolences to anyone who is directly affected and lost anyone.
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Postby eracles » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:45 am

my mums first cousin and family are dead (inc both kids 16 and 12), a very sad day, very difficult times :cry: :cry:
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:57 am

First of all, condolences to the families and friends of the victims - especially to surviving parents of the 48 children on board ...

magikthrill wrote:
Yiannis wrote:
It was an accident and not a result of a terrorist act. From what i heard there was a sadden drop in the cabbin pressure and the pilots lost their consciousness.Therefore the plane was travelling on its own by the automatic pilot and crashed when it ran out of fuel.


I heard the same.

However, I am almost positive the plane was shot down by the Hellenic Air Forces.

First of all, even if there wasnt a pressure accident the fuel would have been more than enough to get to Athens.

Secondly, do you think its a coincident that the plan crashed just 15 km north of the airport?

Thirdly, the plane crashed in an uninhabited area.

The plane was definitely shot down to prevent a crash in residential areas and to prevent the spread of panick to the entire city seeing as during the time the plane was in the air it was quite possible that a terrorist attack was still a major speculation (especially when you see an absent pilot and a slumped co pilot).


I believe according to law if you do not receive contact from the pilot when you enter greek air space they have the right to shoot you down. A


Magikthrill,

the way it happened was that the aircraft reached its autopilot waypoint at Kea - Kithnos, and then went in circles at that point for over an hour, spending all its fuel. The plane crashed at 12 noon, 3 hours after the beginning of a 90 minute journey. Therefore, it must have run out of fuel ...

What I do not understand, is how the aircraft moved from the region where it was circling, around Kea island, to go all the way to Oropos mountain where it crashed. Probably the autopilot itself broke down after a certain point, or was disabled by a surviving passenger (I say surviving because most passengers were probably dead by 10 am, when the aircraft decompressed).

After the aircraft stopped going in circles around Kea, it followed a "mad course", as the F16 pilots described it, passed over onto the mainland, and went into a nose-dive as it ran out of fuel.

If the F16 pilots had orders to shoot it down, they would have done so when it was still over the sea.
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Postby Yiannis » Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:35 am

Alexandros Lordos wrote:What I do not understand, is how the aircraft moved from the region where it was circling, around Kea island, to go all the way to Oropos mountain where it crashed. Probably the autopilot itself broke down after a certain point, or was disabled by a surviving passenger (I say surviving because most passengers were probably dead by 10 am, when the aircraft decompressed).


Two 'tried to fly doomed plane'

Pilots of two Greek air force F16 fighters that were scrambled to investigate after the doomed aircraft lost contact saw the two people trying to assume control in the cockpit during the final approach, Theodore Roussopoulos said.

"They saw two people in the cockpit, we don't know if they were crew members or passengers, appearing to want to take over the controls," he said after a government meeting called to discuss the accident.


I read this from http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1753993,00.html.
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Postby brother » Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:46 am

Condolences to the families of those lost.

This was a terrible tradegy and i feel for all cypriots out there.
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Postby MISSLONDONCY » Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:01 am

I have been watching the news non-stop, there's alot of speculation about terrorists, attacks but most of it is talk. They believe it was toxic poisoning from the airconditions that made all the cabin crew and passengers unconcious.

All the families of the passengers on board are now being flown over to Greece to identify their loved ones. The whole of Cyprus has been effected by this tregedy in one way of the other, alot of people due to go on holiday with these airlines are not risking their lives.

Nobody knows if this horific tragedy was caused accidentally or by shear ignorance and stupidity by the airline, one thing I know is, this is one blow that Cypriots will not be forgetting in a hurry.
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