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[denizaksulu]

thank-you mem101, sensitive and thought provoking, Cypriots, beyond "Greeks" and "Turks"; much older.

Read his manifesto

He slipped there didn't he.

[mem101]

So what's the problem with my manifesto then?

[mem101]

So what's the problem with my "manifesto?"

[denizaksulu]

So what's the problem with my "manifesto?"

You have only sorted out the geneology...

What else..did you publish a 'manifesto' encapsulating the whole of the Cyprus Issue. If you have I must have missed it. Please point me in the right direction as long it has democratic rights for ALL Cypriots.

[B25]

I don't think the Annan Plan was a formalisation of division at all and I personally believed it could have been workable.

I was trying to look at your post from a different angle until you said the above. Then I realised you were just another one of those scummy TCs who want it all their way.

I am not in possession of any of your deeds.

You mis-understood the deeds Antifon was asking for, he meant deeds as in actions, not title deeds.

I am afraid you are not 90% and I am not 10%. We are each one citizen.

Fair enough so who the hell are you to demand 50% power share and 50% in government jobs and 50% in everything else?? Damn cheek!

[mem101]

I haven't written any manifesto. I think he's referring to my second post on this thread which he probably readily misunderstood. I believe in equal democratic rights for all Cypriots.

[Piratis]

The 1960 constitution based on strict percentages of TCs and GCs in government was flawed and still is and I don't think anything like that could ever work. It maintains the "us" and "them" feeling and does little to promote union. I don't think the Annan Plan was a formalisation of division at all and I personally believed it could have been workable. That doesn't matter though, because it was voted down. The people didn't want it and that's fine. I am in favour of taking steps towards a unified Cyprus. The steps should rebuild trust between people on both sides of the cease fire line and have clear goals. In short, some form of short term federation leading to a unified Cyprus whether it has one state or two. But this is just my opinion and I am no expert in law or politics. I am open to other ideas and suggestions.

I am not in possession of any of your deeds. I am not even in possession of deeds which are rightfully mine and even if I was their usefulness and value has been suffering immensely for decades because the land is surrounded by the Green Line and Turkish military bases. Do you think that makes me happy? Do you think it makes me happy that you don't have your deeds?

You didn't seem to understand my point. I am afraid you are not 90% and I am not 10%. We are each one citizen. You cannot vote for every "Greek" Cypriot, just yourself. Who the bloody hell am I? One Cypriot citizen, not one tenth of a citizen. So who the bloody hell are you?

So do you agree that the Cypriot people should be free to decide what they want for their own island by democratic means? (one person, one vote).

Henry Ford once said: "The customer can have any colour as long as it is black", which is an obvious oxymoron. Similarly, some people in here talk about "independence" but what they mean is that Cyprus should do only what they and some foreign Imperialists want, and not what Cypriots freely and democratically choose. Obviously such thing is anything but independence.

[Jerry]

I haven't written any manifesto. I think he's referring to my second post on this thread which he probably readily misunderstood. I believe in equal democratic rights for all Cypriots.

Hang on tight mem101, you are about to be chased off by the form fascists. Many have fallen before you, not doubt you too will succumb to their assault.

[B25]

So what's the problem with my "manifesto?"

You have only sorted out the geneology...

What else..did you publish a 'manifesto' encapsulating the whole of the Cyprus Issue. If you have I must have missed it. Please point me in the right direction as long it has democratic rights for ALL Cypriots.

Come on Deniz FFS, DT was taking the Piss out of RW as he always states "read my Manifesto"

Only mem101 misunderstood that too, he seems to be misunderstanding alot of things.

[mem101]

Piratis, why start throwing insults around? If you look again at my post you'll see that I wrote "believed" in the past tense. That was seven years ago and my views have developed since then. I would never demand 50-50 power sharing based on whether you have a Turkish name or Greek name.

"So do you agree that the Cypriot people should be free to decide what they want for their own island by democratic means? (one person, one vote). "

Yes, I agree with this. After an agreement moderated by the UN has been reached and voted for by democratic means, the Turks and English should leave. Turkey, the US, the UK and any other nations should have no say or influence in the matter.