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[kimon07]

You all mind your spelling please. According to the banner is Hasichtir. Am I right Lordo?

[GreekIslandGirl]

come on lads the topic is Greece and mess it is in not barbarities in 1974 Cyprus.

A Japanese bank suggests a euro exit for Greece as early as next week-end.

http://www.efxnews.com/story/12752/grex ... tmu-others

I would have expected that anydecision on the exit would takeplace only after the elections.

What have I been telling you?

[MR-from-NG]

Deranged what? I don't think so sunshine.

Read your history and learn you barbaric asshole. Is this not the incident the RoC refused to show the documentary about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlZOHnT97VE

Are you sure you do not mean this one?

has this been shown in Turkey or the occupied zone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-l3tips-dU

In any event can we keep to the topic which is the problems Greece faces today and not the barbarities done by both sides in the course of the tragic events of 1974.

Charluis in glass houses should not be throwing stones.

in 1967 the Greek Cypriot National Guard burned a disable man from Kofinu alive.

in 1974, the 16 day old baby was shot in front of the whole village. 12 year old boys beheaded in front of the villagers. Then the whole population killed and burned. Who knows whether they were burned alive or dead.

So before you start calling a whole nation barabaric, first be aware of not one or two individuals have done but the whole sciecety is capable of.

These were not the actions of a few deranged individual like the ones you mentioned. This was the RoC government. When Gochina was attacked, TPapa said If Turkish ships were seen within 12 miles of the coast by the time they land there will be no Turkish Cypriots left to save.

You genocidal psychopaths learn your furking history.

What is the chance of that. We are now in 2012 and the RoC have included creationism in the biology lessons. CYprus history 1960 to 1974 is still 2 pages.

As to the banned documentaries.

TRNC is not a legal government. How the hell can it be compared to a legal government? Take your heads out of your furkin arses.

How can a democratic government ban a documentary about an incident that took place 37 years ago. Democracy? don't make me laugh. You bastards will not rest until there is not one Turkish Cypriot left in Cyprus. But unlucky for you even if that day comes, the north still will not come back to you. It will be part of Turkey.

Now have a nice weekend you hear.

You are born ignorant and you shall die one too, ignorant swines.

Great post Lordo. Totally agree with your comment "You bastards will not rest until there is not one Turkish Cypriot left in Cyprus." Unfortunately these people are in denial and they are also victims of being taught a pack of lies at school, at home and most worrying their church. What do you expect from a society that has an unhealthy level of hatred for TC's and anything Turkish?

[Viewpoint]

This has been the biggest barrier we all know how much GCs hate TCs wanting revenge and to "teach them a lesson" mentality. Because of this GC stance the TC in return do not trust or want to forgive the GCs for the past, the combination of the two means we will never unite.

[kimon07]

This has been the biggest barrier we all know how much GCs hate TCs wanting revenge and to "teach them a lesson" mentality. Because of this GC stance the TC in return do not trust or want to forgive the GCs for the past, the combination of the two means we will never unite.

That's a threat to the GCs or to your fellow TCs?

[Anna_gr]

There is no doubt, the situation in Greece is a real mess.

It is true that most of our politicians were very corrupt. They stole public funds from major infrastructure projects (mostly funded by the EU) and deposited those funds into their private Swiss Bank Accounts. Whenever Greece would buy weapons from US or Germany, more funds would be stolen.

But that is not all. Business would cheat on their tax. Anyone who could would avoid as much tax as possible, including workers who were connected with tax officials who would take bribes to overlook matters.

It is not only the politicuians. It is the people as well. Every family uses their contacts to appoint their kids into Government jobs. Often jobs are created out of nothing.

The Greek "mentality" needs to change. It is obvious.

Even with this crisis, many of us look to lay blame elsewhere. This is the sad state in which Greece finds itself today.

The Greek Banking sector is also about to collapse. And if Greece leaves the Eurozone, then I don't want to be in Greece to see the social fabric collapse to nothing.

Greece is hitting the self destruct button. It has been a non functioning country unable to sustain itself for decades. It was only a matter of time before all this corruption and falseness came to a head.

[Bananiot]

Well said Anna. Obviously you are a person who loves Greece and does not try to hide the truth because this is the only way to help Greece. Once again, very well said. Το "εθνικό είναι το αληθές" του Δ. Σολωμού παραμένει επίκαιρο ... it shows how far back corruption goes in Greece.

[Anna_gr]

It is difficult to witness what is happening.

I love my country very much. There is no other country like her in the world. For me it is the best country in the world.

There are many Greeks who sincerely love their country, and are patriotic.

Unfortunately, there are many political forces in Greece who scream patriotism very loudly, but in reality this underground that controls Greece cared very little about the country. They were only interested in money, and power. It is this underground that controlled Greece for decades. This is why Greece is now suffering. All patriotic Greeks know this.

The real patriots were powerless to do anything. But they care for Greece sincerely, and are now suffering immensely. The elites became very wealthy and will not suffer at all. But the rest that will stay behind to pick up the pieces are the real patriots.

"Το έθνος πρέπει να μάθει να θεωρεί εθνικό ό,τι είναι αληθές"

That is the only way Greece will resurrect itself.

[boomerang]

Greeks to have a chance of ressurrecting anything need to start appointing capable trustworthy people in charge that are able to micro manage state affairs and themselves governed by commities...ensuring outlawing of high level corruption...overhauling the government with ridding excess weight...overhauling the pension system...enforcing tax collection with forceful confiscations and presecutions...dragonian measures but results at the end...the mentality needs to chance..can take a generation...

The austerity measures as harsh as they sound are needed...greeks didn't vote no to austerity the last elections they voted no to change...this is the problem...this problem to this very day is getting expoited for self interests...

good luck but i do not see easiness in the next 10 or more years...it will be much worse out of the euroze...the eurozone is offering some kind as proven as of late, protection...

[Anna_gr]

There are many capable people in Greece who love the country so much who should be in leadership roles. Unfortunately, for many decades, the corrupt elitists would prevent them from gaining any power so that they can keep stealing money. They didn't think that all this corruption would lead to this. After all, what is a few lazy million Euros in the scheme of things which would allow them to buy mansions and other businesses right?

Yes it is going to be hard work but do not underestimate the Greek Youth who love their country and hate injustice. One day, the corrupt will be brushed aside or they will corrupt the youth....

Greece needs anti corruption boards and to embark on rapid reform just like Italy, Spain, Ireland, and Portugal. If this does not occur, then Greece may find itself marginalized even more, as it will be kicked out of the Eurozone. If that happens, I can't even imagine what is going to happen in Greece. All I know is that the country may even explode.

Tax Evasion needs to be addressed, the Government Sector needs to be trimmed and workers must retain their jobs on merit and productivity.

It really is very indicative of our Greek culture when you notice that it is Greece alone that is not playing by EU rules, unlike other countries which are consolidating their economies and spending.

But denying the problems is not doing us any favours. It basically means that we endorse this corruption and injustice in Greece.

Greece has been through worse situations, and it can survive this situation if we admit there are problems and start solving them by making some very difficult decisions and sacrifices.

We can't have more of the same.