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[boomerang]

she said

These kind of opinions are most unhelpful and strange as a matter of fact. But I do not blame this poster because such ideologically driven opinions are common in Greece amongst the older generations in particular and the uneducated

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now you say

It's only natural you don't get it. The fact that she may disagree with me and with my points of view does not change the fact that she is a good faithed poster. I welcome her once more.

man you got your ass handed to you on a platter and you say it's only natural i don't get it?...wow now come to think of it calling you simple would be an insult to all the simple people out there...

she didn't not just disagreed, she body slammed you on your whole responce to me...

BTW there was no "may" it was a kill...

the question i have kimon and i would like you to dig hard and think about your responce, where exactly anna and i differ in what we are saying...

the only commonality between your self and anna is that you are both greeks, but miles apart as to what and how to revieve greece...she is a progressor and so far you only have proven how much of a wood duck you are...

[GreekIslandGirl]

so you saying greece's woes started 18 months ago when georgie got in?...

Does this look like I was refering to just 18 months? I said.

Andreas Papandreou (may he RinH) was the architect and chief engineer of the extensive corruption of the public sector of Greece and the architect and the chief engineer of the bankruptcy of Greece. It was during his terms of office that his lieutenants, like Tsohatzopoulos who is now rotting in jail, and his ministers and party members and friends looted the country blind, mainly through the acquisitions of armaments, mainly from Germany but also from the US and from Russia.

Then came Simitis, the genius who is accused of having manipulated figures with the assistance of the EU and Goldman Sachs in order for Greece to be admitted to the Euro zone and whose government managed to inflate the costs of the Olympic projects three and four times above reasonable cost.

Evidently, I was refering to the periods from 1981 to 1989 (Andreas) and 1993 to at least 2004 (Andreas-Simitis) when all the dirty tricks were performed by Andreas and his mafia party.

And in my previous post I said that it took only 18 months of George in office for the Greek people to realise who he realy is and what he was doing to the country and send him to political oblivion. So you either have a problem understanding what you read or, most probably, you are twisting the meaning of my posts. So typical of you....

These kind of opinions are most unhelpful and strange as a matter of fact. But I do not blame this poster because such ideologically driven opinions are common in Greece amongst the older generations in particular and the uneducated.

Greeks support their political party through thick and thin. The only exception to the rule is now, only because many Greeks are unwilling to undergo more Austerity and reform. Once again, many Greeks are only looking at their pockets and seem to not care that much for Greece itself. It once again comes down to the Euro.

The above poster calls PASOK the "mafia" party. Whilst this may not be altogether incorrect, because they were in power for many years and did lay the foundations for cronyism, he ignores the contributions of New Democracy for also establishing and perpetuation the very same corruption and cronyism. Yet New Democracy escapes his classification of "Mafia" Party!

I do not wish to berate the above member, but merely point out that this type of attitude is common in Greece.

And these attitudes do not help Greece at all because it is these attitudes that try to lay the blame on one particular party or another without looking at the reality of the matter. New Democracy was also in power for many years and did nothing to stop corruption. Why would they? They too benefited from the corruption by stealing money and buying votes for jobs to their supporter base.

I think it was the same poster that referred to George Papandreou's heritage and ethnicity. Quite bizarre to say the least.

Yes, it is going to be hard work indeed, especially with these kind of attitudes being the norm. Not only do we have to fight corruption and injustice in our God Foresaken country, but attitudes such as these which are commonplace.

i just wonder to who the 1st paragragh was reffering to...so kimon which category do you belong the old or the uneducated...

It's only natural you don't get it. The fact that she may disagree with me and with my points of view does not change the fact that she is a good faithed poster. I welcome her once more.

I too thought she made a lot of good points and some, made from naivete, were picked up by this sheep-clone to throw around like he is familiar with doing with any propaganda against Greece. And to sow divisions!

[Kikapu]

Euro group president blames Ottoman heritage for Greek crisis
ISTANBUL

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Luxembourg's Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker briefs the media after an informal European Union leaders summit in Brussels May 24, 2012. REUTERS Photo

The "Ottoman invasion" of Greece is the main cause for the country’s current financial crisis, Luxembourger Prime Minister and Euro Group President Jean-Claude Juncker has said, noting the negative impact the occupation had on Greece’s fiscal development, according to daily Hürriyet.

"Greece is a very big nation but a very weak state," Juncker said during an interview with Politique Internationale. "It's the truth: Their fiscal management is not working. There is no staff, no real trade history, which is the heritage of the Ottoman invasion."

Juncker also told Politique Internationale that Spain and Portugal had better chances of recovering than Greece, which may take years to get back on its feet.

"How can you privatize anything when such important factors are missing?" Juncker said.

May/28/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/euro-g ... sCatID=338

[boomerang]

oh the mad cow to the rescue...you clowns are so predictable...check the dates...apart from the dates she slammed him into submission...kimon could only muster 2 lines with his head bowed down...and wet panties...

i like how you already labeled anna as naivete...the poor thing...you need to take her under your wing and teach the poor thing a thing or two huh?...till she is able to fend for herself...here is a wild thought, why you don't offer her free board for as lond as she wants when she comes to cyprus...that will do the trick...you can keep an eye out for her and guide her at the same time...right up your ally and you be doing greece and a fellow greek a favour...are you up to it?...what you say?

or how about donating your yearly interest to greece...like helping your motherland...i mean come on your country is calling out to you...no...but quite happy to pocket the interest and probably gang raping greece through your investments?...i understand...say no more...

have you 2 idiots ever thought she might be a plant....helping me out?...someone I could have introduced to dump on you guys?...no...ok...

PS...i didn't but...

[kimon07]

Bankers at the Gates

FEW Greeks have a good word to say about the European banking system these days. They believe it’s the real reason for their current crisis, having pushed easy money on their politicians and now demanding a pound of financial flesh.
It was the same story 800 years ago. The men of the Fourth Crusade, who had originally set off to fight for Christianity in the Holy Land, found themselves instead ransacking Constantinople, the capital of the Greek-speaking Byzantine Empire, because of enormous debts that had been racked up in the West.
The way Europe has behaved over the current Greek crisis is scarcely less shameful than the way those crusaders behaved all those centuries ago. If nothing else, that dark spot on the West’s historical record should be a warning to the bankers and politicians who would rather watch Greece fall apart than take responsibility for their own profligacy.
Read more:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/25/opini ... ntemail1=y

[kimon07]

Euro group president blames Ottoman heritage for Greek crisis
ISTANBUL

n_21783_4.jpg

Luxembourg's Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker briefs the media after an informal European Union leaders summit in Brussels May 24, 2012. REUTERS Photo

The "Ottoman invasion" of Greece is the main cause for the country’s current financial crisis, Luxembourger Prime Minister and Euro Group President Jean-Claude Juncker has said, noting the negative impact the occupation had on Greece’s fiscal development, according to daily Hürriyet.

"Greece is a very big nation but a very weak state," Juncker said during an interview with Politique Internationale. "It's the truth: Their fiscal management is not working. There is no staff, no real trade history, which is the heritage of the Ottoman invasion."

May/28/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/euro-g ... sCatID=338

If he means money "trade history" he is right.
But otherwise I would expect hurriyet to point out to him that the trade in the whole of the Ottoman Empire was exclusively in the hands of Greeks, Jews and Armenians and that even the central administration of the Ottoman empire was largely conducted by Greeks (the Phanariots).

[observer]

Euro group president blames Ottoman heritage for Greek crisis
ISTANBUL

n_21783_4.jpg

Luxembourg's Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker briefs the media after an informal European Union leaders summit in Brussels May 24, 2012. REUTERS Photo

The "Ottoman invasion" of Greece is the main cause for the country’s current financial crisis, Luxembourger Prime Minister and Euro Group President Jean-Claude Juncker has said, noting the negative impact the occupation had on Greece’s fiscal development, according to daily Hürriyet.

"Greece is a very big nation but a very weak state," Juncker said during an interview with Politique Internationale. "It's the truth: Their fiscal management is not working. There is no staff, no real trade history, which is the heritage of the Ottoman invasion."

Juncker also told Politique Internationale that Spain and Portugal had better chances of recovering than Greece, which may take years to get back on its feet.

"How can you privatize anything when such important factors are missing?" Juncker said.

May/28/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/euro-g ... sCatID=338

Greek independence internationally recognised since 1832. What have the Greeks been doing for the last 180 years?

[kimon07]

Greek independence internationally recognised since 1832. What have the Greeks been doing for the last 180 years?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_modern_Greece

[observer]

What an interesting map. It makes me wonder what private hole some forum members are sitting in when they constantly refer to Turkish expansionism. Trying to hide something with bluster maybe.

[Kikapu]

Euro group president blames Ottoman heritage for Greek crisis
ISTANBUL

n_21783_4.jpg

Luxembourg's Prime Minister Jean-Claude Juncker briefs the media after an informal European Union leaders summit in Brussels May 24, 2012. REUTERS Photo

The "Ottoman invasion" of Greece is the main cause for the country’s current financial crisis, Luxembourger Prime Minister and Euro Group President Jean-Claude Juncker has said, noting the negative impact the occupation had on Greece’s fiscal development, according to daily Hürriyet.

"Greece is a very big nation but a very weak state," Juncker said during an interview with Politique Internationale. "It's the truth: Their fiscal management is not working. There is no staff, no real trade history, which is the heritage of the Ottoman invasion."

Juncker also told Politique Internationale that Spain and Portugal had better chances of recovering than Greece, which may take years to get back on its feet.

"How can you privatize anything when such important factors are missing?" Juncker said.

May/28/2012

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/euro-g ... sCatID=338

Greek independence internationally recognised since 1832. What have the Greeks been doing for the last 180 years?

Not paying taxes!