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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu May 17, 2012 6:09 pm

Oh but wasn't "Turkey" cobbled together in 1923?
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Re: greek mess

Postby Bananiot » Thu May 17, 2012 6:27 pm

I asked a simple question. Who started these wars? Can we tell our children the truth for a change?
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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu May 17, 2012 6:31 pm

The truth tellers would answer "those who came from afar to steal the land of people who have been native for thousands of years".

Lemme see who came from afar ...... The bloody forefathers of the presentday Turks!
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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu May 17, 2012 6:33 pm

Besides Bananiot - you are the one who thought he was cleverly twisting the truth with dates and names.

Why don't you stop these games?
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Re: greek mess

Postby kimon07 » Thu May 17, 2012 7:11 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:Greeks are in it to win it? Win what? You should have heard Nick Ferrari on LBC this morning. I don't know how you see it in Cyprus but here in the UK? Go on LBC and see what was discussed this morning.


"Greece’s exit may become the euro’s envy
By Arvind Subramanian

Default will be disastrous for Greece and the resulting contagion would be damaging for Europe. So goes the conventional wisdom. The only debate has been about the strength of contagion and the appropriate response of vulnerable countries and of the cheque-writing country. Might the debate be misguided because the premise is flawed? Expelled from the eurozone, Greece might prove more dangerous to the system than it ever was inside it – by providing a model of successful recovery."

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"Such a scenario would be rich in irony. Greece is viewed as the pariah polluting the eurozone; its expulsion might make it a far bigger threat to the single currency’s survival. If a eurozone exit creates the conditions for a rebound in Greece, it may prove an infectious model. The ongoing Greek tragedy could yet turn out not too badly for the Greeks. But tragedy it might well be for the eurozone and perhaps for the European project."

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http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/4bdda8a0 ... z1v9ASiEiZ
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Re: greek mess

Postby kimon07 » Thu May 17, 2012 7:24 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:I feel sorry for Greeks in a way. They have been bullshitting their way for the last 50 years at least if not longer. They have been living in DREAMLAND and now have to get used to living in HELL. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.


I understand your drama. It must had been terrible to be green with envy for 50 odd years. Greece performing the Greek miracle of 1955-1975 (second in growth after Japan) after having emerged from two devastating wars (1940-1944 and 1944-1949). Greece having for decades 4 times the per capita income of Turkey and even today double, I think? Then, Greece joining the EU in 1980 and you still begging in 2012? Then "Greek", as you call it, Cyprus joining the EU in 2004 and you still begging?

So, you think that now you think you have your chance to ...feel sorry for "them" eh? Well, enjoy it while you can and for as long as it will lasts. Because it will not last long. Trust me.
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Re: greek mess

Postby kimon07 » Thu May 17, 2012 7:39 pm

Bananiot wrote:I asked a simple question. Who started these wars? Can we tell our children the truth for a change?


Ah yes. A very interesting subject:

The infiltration of the Fifth Column in Cypriot Schools. Dangers and means to protect the children of Cyprus from Turkish propganda.


I will suggest it as an issue for serious consideration to the (new) Minister of Education after we get rid of the communist regime.
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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu May 17, 2012 7:51 pm

The tenor has changed, as stud has said. The admittance that Greece would be better off without the Euro. Unlike Britain who gained just an extra 10 years of wealth when it went bankrupt in 1992 and fiddled the ERM to gain time - Greece is being likened to Brazil - look how well they've done! But the Greeks have set their sites on an ideal of a united Europe which promises long-term peace and stability for all opposed to the Turkish threat.

- The scaremongering has intensified as we see that Cameron and others really do not want to see Greece exit and become better off financially, competitively. So now the propaganda has switched to doomsday scenarios to scare the Greeks into voting for the more right wing, money-centered pro-Euro parties.

Maybe the Greek people have spoken their protest at the severity of the austerity measures and a compromise can begin ...

Once again, future civilizations rest on what the Greeks can deliver. :)
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Re: greek mess

Postby Bananiot » Fri May 18, 2012 7:50 am

Kimon is also a "hafies". He will report me to the Ministry of Education, he boasts. This bash democrat wants to silence me but of course I do not care one bit for fascists like him. Now, can someone tell me that I am wrong about the wars Greece started? I stand to be corrected and apologise, if I got this one wrong.

Hafies = person who reported to the junta and gave away many patriots to the barbaric colonels to be subjected to horrible torture.
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Re: greek mess

Postby kimon07 » Fri May 18, 2012 9:09 am

Bananiot wrote:Kimon is also a "hafies". He will report me to the Ministry of Education, he boasts. This bash democrat wants to silence me but of course I do not care one bit for fascists like him. Now, can someone tell me that I am wrong about the wars Greece started? I stand to be corrected and apologise, if I got this one wrong.

Hafies = person who reported to the junta and gave away many patriots to the barbaric colonels to be subjected to horrible torture.


Like the good Stalinist trash you are, you are twisting my post. What I said should be an issue of concern are the methods of the Filth Column in schools which even the Church of Cyprus is denouncing repeatedly lately. Read again:

The infiltration of the Fifth Column in Cypriot Schools. Dangers and means to protect the children of Cyprus from Turkish propganda.


Individual persons like you are irrelevant. What has to be crashed is the nest of the snakes before the eggs hatch. Besides, the individual Filth Columnists ultimately get what they deserve from their employers once their cover is blown and they are not useful to them any more. You see, as we GREEK Cypriots say: Many loved treason but none the traitor.

P.S. 1. Do you compare the Ministry of Education of the RoC with the junta now? I suppose you know something more than I do.
2. Under the term "hafies" do you include the hooded communist scum informers of the British during the EOKA struggle? I bet you would have been one of them had you
been around at that time. And I bet that if we had welcomed the Turkish Army with roses and submitted to them in 1974 as you suggested, you would be happily acting as
their "hafies", informing them about any resistance activities of Greek Cypriots.
3. A person who supports that we should have welcomed the Turkish Army with roses in 1974 instead of resisting and fighting for our country, is unworthy to even talk about
the wars Greece fought. Let alone teaching Greek Cypriot children anything about them.
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