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[bill cobbett]

Bagis explains why Turkey's EU accession talks have ground to a halt:

In response to criticism by opposition lawmakers that Croatia had overtaken Turkey even though membership talks began simultaneously, Bagis said the situation would have been different for Turkey if "it had said yes to everything like Croatia."

He also said that, according to the paper, Romania's premier had advised him last year not to heed all the demands of the EU because they had ruined the Romanian economy.

“He said: ‘Don’t do everything the commission wants. If we are going through economic hardship today, it’s because we said yes to everything.’ Romania finished the accession talks in four years but they closed down their farms so that Germany and France could sell them salami and sausages,” Bağış said.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-11-17

.... "sell them salami and sausages " ...

Someone p... pl. .please tell us that these things get a bit lost in translation ...

[bill cobbett]

......But we are determined to push on with the reforms and raise our standards.

They may even stop murdering their daughters who fall victims of rape and start punishing the rapists instead!

he reminds me of goblins......

Is he related to BillC?

NO!!!! ...and am a gremlin ... not a blooming goblin.

[Hermes]

"Look out Europe, Turkey is coming to the rescue!"

- Egemen Bagis quoted in the WSJ.

[Kikapu]

In response to criticism by opposition lawmakers that Croatia had overtaken Turkey even though membership talks began simultaneously, Bagis said the situation would have been different for Turkey if “it had said yes to everything like Croatia.”

http://famagusta-gazette.com/turkey-wil ... 537-69.htm

I think the light has finally come on in Bagis's head, that accession talks to become an EU member can only be done by EU's way or it's the highway!

[Hermes]

“If the Greek Cypriots really want a solution, they should make good use of the coming six-month period; they will regret it otherwise”

Our relations with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament will remain intact. We will just not sit across the same table as the term's presidency”

“Turkey has a certain amount of leverage. There are countries waiting for a signal to recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [KKTC], to initiate diplomatic relations with it."

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-264069- ... dency.html

[Kikapu]

Looks like Bagis has gotten some spanking from the EU, to cause Turkey to make a 180°turn!

It seems like, Turkey has backed down with humiliation on every threat they had made on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the last few months!

How can Turkey expect to be take seriously when she can't even carry out her threats on ANYTHING?

Bağış: Ties with EU bodies to continue under Greek Cyprus presidency

27 November 2011, Sunday / TODAY'S ZAMAN, İSTANBUL


Turkey's ties with the European Union's executive arm and the 27-nation bloc's assembly will not rupture when Greek Cyprus takes over its rotating presidency next year, a Turkish minister said on Sunday.

Egemen Bağış, the state minister and Turkey's chief negotiator for EU affairs, said in televised remarks that Turkey will only avoid contact with the Greek Cypriot presidency.

“Our relations with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament will remain intact. We will just not sit across the same table as the term's presidency,” Bağış said.

Bağış's remarks follow earlier statements from Turkish leaders that Turkey will freeze its relations with the EU, if Greek Cypriots assume the EU presidency without any settlement in Cyprus being reached. Greek Cyprus, not recognized by Turkey, is scheduled to take over the EU presidency for six months in the second half of 2012.

Bağış also warned the Greek Cypriots that the Turkish Cypriots, running their own state in the north of the island, could be internationally recognized as an independent state if they continue to drag feet in negotiations for a settlement on the island. “Turkey has a certain amount of leverage. There are countries waiting for a signal to recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [KKTC], to initiate diplomatic relations with it,” he said.

“If the Greek Cypriots really want a solution, they should make good use of the coming six-month period; they will regret it otherwise,” Bağış added.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-264069- ... dency.html

[bill cobbett]

Oh Gawd!... Is there no end to the shame that the Weak Back-Sliding Clown Bagish pours on the the good people of Turkey?

[Get Real!]

“Our relations with the EU Commission and the EU Parliament will remain intact. We will just not sit across the same table as the term's presidency,” Bağış said.

Ok, so he doesn't want to be sitting across the SAME table, but if two tables are joined together it should be alright.

Bağış also warned the Greek Cypriots that the Turkish Cypriots, running their own state in the north of the island, could be internationally recognized as an independent state if they continue to drag feet in negotiations for a settlement on the island.

Then why would you want them to stop dragging their feet?

“Turkey has a certain amount of leverage.

Is this amount of leverage measurable with a tea spoon?

There are countries waiting for a signal to recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [KKTC], to initiate diplomatic relations with it,” he said.

Would that be the pollice verso?

[Kikapu]

After the recent spanking Bagis must have gotten from the EU for all the nonsense he, Gül and Erdogan has been bad mouthing the EU, Bagis has starting being sensibly now.

We all know what Turkey's Plan A,B,C,D and F are. They ALL point to EU membership.

What I want to know is, what is the Plan "E", or doesn't Bagis know that the letter "E" comes after letter "D" and not the letter "F"!

Asked if Turkey had a 'plan B' if talks to reunite the island failed, Bağış replied: "Turkey has a 'plan B', Turkey has a 'plan C' a 'plan D' and even a 'plan F'. But let's keep it to ourselves for now."

But Bağış said that for all Turkey's problems with EU negotiations, and its recent diplomatic openings to the Arab world, Ankara would stick by its European ambitions. "The EU is still the grandest peace project in the history of mankind," he said.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-264118- ... rings.html

[aikhme]

Bağış also warned the Greek Cypriots that the Turkish Cypriots, running their own state in the north of the island, could be internationally recognized as an independent state if they continue to drag feet in negotiations for a settlement on the island. “Turkey has a certain amount of leverage. There are countries waiting for a signal to recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus [KKTC], to initiate diplomatic relations with it,” he said.

Kossovo's UDI increased speculation that this could happen in 2008, but it is impossible. For a start, there is a UN Resolution that prohibits recognition. Recognition is therefore against International law, and this resolution cannot be rescinded. Even if the US were to support recognition, and there is no evidence that it would, the other UN Security Council members will not, particularly China, Russia, France and Britain. Apart from the problems, France and Britain will face in recognising the forced division of an EU member state, Russia and China will always support the territorial integrity and sovereignty of states and will block any attempt to overturn the UN Resolution.

Additionally, the fact that Cyprus is a member of the EU, makes the likelihood of recognition very unlikely as it would be politically costly for any country to establish any formal ties. Even if there was an inclination to do so by certain OIC States such as Azerbaijan for instance, there is no doubt that such a move will create political turmoil. Even if the EU would not enforce any sanctions against such a state, that particular state's relations with the EU will nosedive, and the political, and financial fallout from this would be devastating.

So this talk of recognition is nothing but hot air from Gul. The only other option would be to annex the occupied area, which is possible but only if Turkey gives up on the EU, and even then there will be a huge economic and political cost to Turkey. Let's not forget that the Turkish economy is heavily reliant on the EU, and without the EU, Turkey will crumble.