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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby wyoming cowboy » Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:37 pm

boomerang wrote:
Sotos wrote:Why did you leave from Cyprus boomerang? Something tells me it is you who got the "balloutji" ;) I would love to hear your story... maybe I will feel sorry for you and give you a break ;)

a bit of a wiggler arent you sotos?...why you wasting energy with stupid irrelevant questions?...ate re boulloi mou eni se polla eksipnos...

greece's legasy is full of "balloutjia"...i know this you know this and the whole world knows this...the reason greece is keeping quit and not opening the cyprus file is because she has plenty to hide and the junta was the last step of the betrayal...can you think of any other reason?...and this the million dollar fact you simpletons can't come to gribs with...

come on boy start spitting and stop swallowing..... :lol:


re axristi, before blaming Greece look to yourselves first, Look at your relatives or friends, who was manning the corner streets during the coup, in my street corner it wasnt junta or Greeks from Greece but rather Greek cypriots, co villagers, who was doing the arresting during those five days of the coup, who was doing the interogating at the Kyrenia castle, with the arrested, none of who i asked ever said there were Greeks from Greece present... Who was raiding Turk cyp villages before 74, and harassing the Tc and their women....none of these were so called "kallamarades" but Greek cypriots, so when we ask all the participants to open up their files how come the Cypriots dont open up theirs first.....and also
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:06 am

Paphitis wrote:Cypriots were never Greeks just like the Sicilians are not Italians!


Nice one! The Chances are the Sicilians are far more likely to have Greek Ancestors than Cypriots.
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Sotos » Wed Feb 22, 2012 1:04 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Cypriots were never Greeks just like the Sicilians are not Italians!


Nice one! The Chances are the Sicilians are far more likely to have Greek Ancestors than Cypriots.


You are both uneducated! Sicilians have some Greek ancestors but most of their ancestors are not Greek which is why their dialect has only a few Greek words ;) If our ancestors were not Greek then they wouldn't speak Greek. They would speak some other language.
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:35 pm

language is quite flexible: one has for example the USA where large numbers of Americans have little if any British/English Ancestry but speak English as their main/only language.

As to Cyprus I understand from a number of researches that the genetics tend to suggest that that majority of Cypriots can trace the majority of their ancestors back to the first permanent neolithic settlers of Cyprus who probably came from the Levant area or Anatolia around 8500 BC, rather than Greece, and who were not Greek in any way shape or form. A few Mycenaeans probably arrived in about 1600BC as traders and there was a possible conquest event in about 1150 BC, evidenced by what happened at Enkomi/Salamis, but the extent of the Greek Invasion at that time and over the next few hundred years is not clear. A number of people have suggested that the number of Greeks was small but Greek began to achieve prominence from then through a process of elitist cultural ascendancy. Certainly up to 300BC at least three languages in Cyprus were being spoken but Greek only appears to have finally supplanted the other two after that time with the invasion of the Ptolemies.
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Piratis » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:15 pm

Cyprus is not different than any other Greek island. The ONLY reason that Cyprus is a separate country is that British and Turks did not allow Cyprus to be part of the Greek state as it was the desire of the vast majority of Cypriots, but instead forced Cyprus to be a separate country with some pseudo-independence (with foreign made constitution, foreign bases, foreign armies, foreign judjes of the supreme court - independence my ass) to serve their interests on the expense of the Cypriot people.

In 8500BC there were only prehistoric people, and none of the nations existed back then. 10500 years ago there were no Greeks, no English, no French, no Russian etc etc. If I am not Greek because my ancestors 10500 years ago were not Greek (that wouldn't be possible since the Greek nation did not exist back then) then you can not be Englsh because 10500 years ago your ancestors were certainly not English.

The modern day nations evolved gradually through constant migrations and mixing of DNA and most importantly ideas and cultures. The Greek nation in Cyprus has a history FAR deeper than the English have in Britain, which started with the Anglo-Saxon invasions around 500AD. So if I am not Greek then using the exact same logic nobody can claim to be English, French, Turk or anything else. We should all identify with our prehistoric ancestors, and erase the civilizations we created since then.
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:41 pm

Piratis wrote:Cyprus is not different than any other Greek island.

That's right, Greece is no different to any other British island.
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Get Real! » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:44 pm

Sotos wrote:If our ancestors were not Greek then they wouldn't speak Greek. They would speak some other language.

And what if I were to modify the language label from "Greek" to "Pakistani"?

Would you then become Kenyan? :?
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Sotos » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:44 pm

suppo, your genetic research is bullshit. I know of proper genetic research that says that you are not English but you are African because that is from where your ancestors came from. So that flag you fly is foreign to you. Replace it with this one:

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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Sotos » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:46 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Piratis wrote:Cyprus is not different than any other Greek island.

That's right, Greece is no different to any other British island.



I see you are having some severe hungover from the pub you went last night ;)
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Re: what would greece's legacy be on cyprus...

Postby Sotos » Wed Feb 22, 2012 3:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Sotos wrote:If our ancestors were not Greek then they wouldn't speak Greek. They would speak some other language.

And what if I were to modify the language label from "Greek" to "Pakistani"?

Would you then become Kenyan? :?


You can change the label any way you want. It would still be the same language that we speak in Cyprus, Crete and Athens and not one that they speak in Kenya ;)
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