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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:I never said anything about being Head of Operations or that I can exert influence.

You just write as if you are and do have influence ..........maybe just delusions of grandeur? :lol:

My wife can exert a lot more influence than I can.

A chicken would have more influence than you. Tell me does your wife ever read the rubbish you spout on here?


But I know what is at stake and I know where my country stands and it just so happens that Cyprus and Greece hold the same views, not to mention the fact all of the EU, NATO and dozens more in Asia, Middle East, South America and even Africa.

I suggest you read an article on Syria in any US/UK media rag that either condemns Russia or praises US/UK/NATO ..... and then read the comments that follow. 95% run absolutely 180 degrees to your views. The vast majority of people are far more likely to back Putin and condemn The US and your coalition. Try it! As Milti points out ... you seem to be the sole promoter of your views and opinions, and those more tolerant members, which appear to be the majority, who waste their time like me even bothering to reply, disagree with you!

Pootin is a dangerous man, and it just so happens now that the Coalition is having a Proxy War with Russia. A war Pootin started a long time ago with the Ukraine.

Of course the US had nothing to do with the coup that ousted the elected President of Ukraine to get Sevastopol! :roll: Putin just outsmarted you as usual and instead of just a 40 year lease on the base, by the wishes of 90%+ of the Crimean people to re-unite with Russia through annexation ..... they now own Crimea too!. Glad to see you at least recognise the Putin can be dangerous .... just don't p*ss him off because from what I gather he is beginning to get a bit annoyed with your silly games.

It's game over! This is where the chills come home to roost. We will have Russia pinned in this quagmire for 10 years if we have to and make sure it's a war he can never win. This is Russia's Afghanistan all over again version 2.0! Enjoy!

A perfect example of where someone with a brain the size of a pea reads the press through rose coloured spectacles! The Bear is still very quiet ........ when he roars, you had better have a change of underwear ....... because he will scare the sh*t out of you ! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby B25 » Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:11 pm

For Paphiti and his coalition chums:

Read and weep.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/amnesty-in ... ia/221788/

OK, here's another for you:

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisFuture/ ... 881294389/
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:09 am

B25 wrote:For Paphiti and his coalition chums:

Read and weep.

http://www.mintpressnews.com/amnesty-in ... ia/221788/

OK, here's another for you:

https://www.facebook.com/NowThisFuture/ ... 881294389/


Amnesty International would say that, and the coalition makes no denial of the fact that civilians are killed in their Airstrikes.

What they don't do is deliberately target civilians. What they try and do is avoid as many civilian casualties as is humanly possible. At some point, they need to make operational decisions. For instance, if they are going to bomb a DAESH command and control Centre with many of the leadership inside, and they know a few civilians will die, they could press on with the strike.

That is not a War Crime because the coalition actively pursues a process which prohibits mass doaughter of civilians and many times our aircraft return to base without a weapons release. In fact most of our planes return without a weapons release.

Russians don't have any aircraft return with any weapons left. Everything is released and they target hospitals, and the regime even uses Chemical Warfare.

Our leadership is transparent. Everyone has access to them so Amnesty International should file at the ICJ for a ruling.

As to Nuclear Weapons, we have them too - Minuteman!

And they don't mean a thing. Russia fires one, then Russia is glass within 3 hours with about 150 million people dead! Mostly civilians!

Yours will have a larger population than Russia, but after about 3 months you will also be dead from Radiation sickness if the wind blows your way.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 6:14 am

Tick tock goes the clock....88 days left!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:36 am

Paphitis:
Amnesty International would say that, and the coalition makes no denial of the fact that civilians are killed in their Airstrikes.

It is never reported in the MSM in the way a similar strike would be reported if it were Russian or Syrian air craft. With the US it is played down .... collateral damage ..... an unfortunate error ....... bad target coordinates etc.? Not so with the opposition!
What they don't do is deliberately target civilians. What they try and do is avoid as many civilian casualties as is humanly possible. At some point, they need to make operational decisions. For instance, if they are going to bomb a DAESH command and control Centre with many of the leadership inside, and they know a few civilians will die, they could press on with the strike

Does it not for one minute occur to you the Russians and the Syrians go through exactly the same process of decision making? The application of simple common sense says that there is absolutely NO advantage for either Assad or Russia, politically or militarily, in deliberately targeting civilians and civilian facilities. These are just accusations to demonise Putin/Assad and any ‘evidence’ presented is from terrorists or those associated with terrorists such as the White Helmets.

Cui bono .... who gains from this rubbish? Initially the ones creating the myths but, as time has progressed, the fact that they keep making the same accusations over-and-over again with no supporting evidence, people have realised that a truer picture of events can be gained from independent sources and the less people believe all this hype that you spout!
That is not a War Crime because the coalition actively pursues a process which prohibits mass doaughter of civilians and many times our aircraft return to base without a weapons release. In fact most of our planes return without a weapons release
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Correction!!!! When the Russians and the Syrians do it you are correct .... it is not a war crime. When the US coalition does it, it is an act of war on a sovereign state, unless that State has attacked you and is therefore a war crime. Syria presents no threat to the US or its coalition. So every civilian death from a coalition attack, in Syria, IS a war crime.

I am afraid whether YOU recognise International Law or not does not make a jot of difference. The clue is in the name! International = globally recognised ........ Law = the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members. :roll:

Russians don't have any aircraft return with any weapons left. Everything is released and they target hospitals, and the regime even uses Chemical Warfare.


So you say but that does not make it fact. I posted a report on the latest accusation, from the usual terrorist sources of one of these ‘Assad/Russian attacks on a school’ and showed irrefutably that is was the usual tissue of lies ...... but of course people who never question believe it!

One hospital in Eastern Aleppo (#10?) , according to the White Helmets and SOHR has been ‘destroyed’ three times since April 2016 and its only paediatrician has been ‘killed’ three times as well. And people like you still propagate the myth that Assad/Russians only bomb civilian targets...... you have to be a few cents short on the dollar to believe such rubbish.

Our leadership is transparent. Everyone has access to them so Amnesty International should file at the ICJ for a ruling
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You must be joking? :lol: :lol: When asked for evidence to support any of their claims .... the US and their partners keep silent; they can’t/won’t provide anything but verbal assurances, make some feeble excuse ...... and then blame their perceived ‘enemy’!
As to Nuclear Weapons, we have them too - Minuteman!


So does North Korea! But your delivery systems are incapable in most cases, of penetrating into Russia because Russia realised decades ago that they were on the US’s short list of conquests, along with Iran and China. Russia also recognised that the US armoury is one of conquest, huge carriers (they are offensive not defensive) to threaten those who resisted them.

The Russians came to the sensible decision that these were only a threat if you had no defence. So they designed almost all their military systems as having a defensive capability. This is the US’s weakness! One Iskander can completely immobilise a Nimitz class carrier with a non-nuclear war heads and there is little chance of stopping it! It can wipe out a battle group using nuclear war heads. So this idea that the US is invincible is a delusion. You will no doubt consider this to be no more than Russian propaganda .... over confidence ......a foolish notion!

Remember the F-111 shot down by Serbia? Invisible, can’t be detected .... then .... boom! They made a strategic error ...... they considered mainly horizontal RADAR as from another aircraft ...... on ground RADAR the closer they get the brighter the image. Ooooop’s

And they don't mean a thing. Russia fires one, then Russia is glass within 3 hours with about 150 million people dead! Mostly civilians!


Actually far less than three hours! But Russia has said it will respond only if threatened. Unlike the US they do not have a first strike mentality ........ they know the consequences, the US does not. But Russia has a 'hair trigger' a necessity as NATO are sitting threateningly right on their border.

Do you really think the Russians will be sitting there oblivious to a US attack? They will launch directly they see what is happening from their satellites and that could be seconds if the threat is seen as emanating from Europe. But your RSVP will be on the way before your missiles are in the descent path. Then, 325 million US citizens + Canadians and likely even the 700 million in Europe, would be on the way to extinction.

I am so glad that sensible people, which are the majority, don’t have your mentality which is at odds even with those countries that oppose the Russians and their supporting nations. :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:39 am

Paphitis wrote:Tick tock goes the clock....88 days left!


What will your reaction be if Killery gets dumped or is defeated, and Trump becomes POTUS and decides enough is enough ......... and makes friends with Putin ? :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:53 am

You clinging on to Trump now as your only hope. Say's a lot about you given your eagerness to compromise your ethics and values in a game of brickmanship. That's got Pootin written all over it, so shouldn't be too surprised.

Look, Trump is an idiot, but if he wins he has the Deep State to contend with and there is no way in the world the Deep State will allow him to do any of the stupid things he says. Also, no guarantees the Republican Senators of Congress will cooperate with his administration either.

Clinton has it won.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... id=rrpromo

And judging by how things are panning out, for Pootin in Syria and our success in Iraq, his entire campaign is dead in the water much like the Kuznetsov which has come to encapsulate with some irony the shaky ground he is on.

I will try and be humble! BUT, it wasn't a smart move for Pootin to embark on his idiotic campaign against us thinking he will get away with it. If it continues, there will be a war! That is a given. A major war involving the USA and Russia. A superpower will not take too kindly to any kind of challenge.

Fortunately for you, we have our proxies giving you shit! We can drag this out for as long as we like. Assad has zero chance of taking Aleppo. And we will not be standing to the side watching war criminals raise the city from the ground. We will declare a No Fly Zone.

Any of Pootins aircraft which violate it will risk WW3! And let's just face the facts. Russia is in no position to risk a war it will lose in 3 weeks.

Pootin keeps bluffing, and we let it pass allowing him the accolades but that is a situation that will not last. We are calling it now and you are chasing ghosts all over the outskirts of Aleppo, not knowing your enemy which can't be defeated ever.

Afghanistan version 2.0! Remember?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Sun Oct 30, 2016 8:44 am

Paphitis, you are talking a load of crap. Grow up man. There will be no war. Putin did NOT embark on a war against the coalition but was invited by the legal government of Syria to assist in defeating the so called " Rebels" who are in fact a mixture of islamist jihadis hell bent on establishing a sharia law Syria just as Isis savages are.

You talk about turning Russia into " glass". Mate this is not a Star Wars game , a war would bring the world to an end.

You have allowed your self to become obsessed, unhealthily, with Putin whom you hate more than Isis and Russia. Its obvious by your childish persistence in misspelling his name and your insinuations that somehow Russia will just cower away from Syria,

Your analysis is terribly wrong and childish. I believe that not one single member on this forum shares your rather distorted and immature views. In fact you are getting rather boring with every repetitive post.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:04 am

Criminal America continues supplying terrorists...

ISIL Receives US Arms Cargo in Iraq's Diyala

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1878871
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:10 am

Get Real! wrote:Criminal America continues supplying terrorists...

ISIL Receives US Arms Cargo in Iraq's Diyala

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1878871


They also dropped 40-50 tonnes to the west of Aleppo to Syrian Al-Nusra terrorists. If it had not been for this action by the US coalition this so called 'civil' war (it is a foreign incursion) would have been over months after it started.

The mere fact that the US coalition has been providing arms, even MANPADS and TOW’s to these barbarians ...... makes the US et al complicit in war crimes. To supply terrorists trying to overthrow an elected government is contrary to International Law. So the US is as guilty as the terrorists!

That dock in Den Haag ICC is going to be mighty crowded .... when judgment day arrives! :roll:

US Failed to Rein In Syrian Militants, They Killed Over 16,000 in Feb.-Sept.

“Russia guaranteed the implementation of the CoH [cessation of hostilities] by the Syrian government. The US on the other hand were not capable to insure the implementation of the CoH by the armed groups. From February to September the opposition groups that are supposed to be under the US control committed 2,031 violations of the CoH, which claimed the lives of 3,532 military personnel and 12,800 civilians,” the statement said.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2016 ... asualties/
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