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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:07 am

One more question Kikapu.

How many countries have put their hand up to help the Russians with this air crash? Doesn't the coalition have dozens of ships in the area? A couple of boats could be there in a day with Diving specialists and retrieval teams. We have a lot of resources in the Mediterranean.

No one put their hand up? Oh ok mate. Normally when something like this happens countries like USA, France, UK, and Australia always put their hand up if they are in a position to help out. Cat must have their tongues this time round. All these countries have ships in the area with the 6th Fleet battle group.

USA was the first country on the scene with the Helios crash.

Doesn't look like the Coalition really care about Russia.

When Cyprus had bushfires, they had received help from Greece, Israel, UK, and France. Just recently when Israel had bushfires Cyprus had sent firefighters and equipment to Israel.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:26 am

Paphitis wrote:The USA and Russia are about to engage each other with an Arms Race - a Nuclear Arms race. Both countries already have enough Nuclear warheads to destroy the planet multiple times so I am not sure what they wish to achieve. These are dangerous times Kikapu.

I remember welcoming the Nuclear disarmament and control treaties between Reagan and Gorbachev. Those were good days.

It’s pretty naïve to believe all the bullshit claimed by superpowers with respect to disarmaments and such.

The vast majority of what’s being said and announced by global protagonists, are nothing but LIES!

All they’re concerned about is their public image without compromising a military edge over their opponent, so deception is the name of the game.

If they dismantle/remove a nuclear site you can bet that it was a dud one in the first place placed there earlier for dismantling purposes to satisfy bogus disarmament programs and public opinion or it was obsolete technology anyway.


Terrorism is going to hit very hard, that soon, people will be scared to travel and congregate in big crowds. It is a war that can't be won. Don't let anyone tell you any different. It's all a lie.

Well terrorism can be defeated, but only if you address radicalization. Where are we addressing radicalization? Have we done this in Syria? No we have not. We have in actual fact helped radicalization and given DAESH a big boost to the point that they are going to be a major International network.

Baloney! There’s no such thing as “radicalization”. All foreign fighters entering and committing crimes against Syrians are PAID a wage/salary or one-off amount to be there by wealthy criminal states such as Israel, the Saudis, Qatar, and the US.

They locate impoverished Muslims from places like Tunisia, Morocco, and others, and give them financial incentives with “religious duty” sprinkled over the deal to make it appear “righteous”. They all foolishly assume that there’s safety in numbers and plod along... but most never return. The only religion everyone is radicalized to is the religion of MONEY… an incentive more powerful than all the religions combined.

Everything is orchestrated by the arch-criminal Jewish-American lobbies and expand from there to employ other criminal nations including the Saudis and Turkey.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:35 am

Paphitis:

How many countries have put their hand up to help the Russians with this air crash? Doesn't the coalition have dozens of ships in the area? A couple of boats could be there in a day with Diving specialists and retrieval teams. We have a lot of resources in the Mediterranean.

No one put their hand up? Oh ok mate. Normally when something like this happens countries like USA, France, UK, and Australia always put their hand up if they are in a position to help out. Cat must have their tongues this time round. All these countries have ships in the area with the 6th Fleet battle group.


Maybe the Russians are aware that YOU cannot be relied upon? I don't think they needed YOUR help, just like they didn't need it in Syria! either! :roll:

Russia Boosts Tu-154 Crash Search Team to Include 39 Ships, 7 Deep-Sea Vehicles

According to reports, Russian Defense Ministry's 3,500-strong Tu-154 aircraft search and rescue team has expanded to include 39 ships and craft, as well as 135 diving experts and seven deep-sea vehicles. "In addition, five Orlan-10 unmanned aerial vehicles [UAVs] are performing the task of air monitoring the surface situation," the ministry said.

http://sptnkne.ws/ddTW


BTW: The US 6th Fleet out of Naples, is based in the Med ..... not the Black Sea ! :roll: In fact there are very few allied ships in the Black Sea since the Russians gave a US 'wizbang' destroyer an example of its electronic war fare skills, left it dead in the water and gave the crew an exhibition of low level, mast top aerobatics for 45 minutes, before they 'switched them on again' and departed for their base ...... as did the US destroyer at max RPM's apparently. :oops: :lol: :lol:

As a foot note: You can NEVER destroy terrorism or win a guerrilla war ...... ask the SAS and they will tell that is where the term 'Hearts-and-minds' originated ! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:23 am

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The USA and Russia are about to engage each other with an Arms Race - a Nuclear Arms race. Both countries already have enough Nuclear warheads to destroy the planet multiple times so I am not sure what they wish to achieve. These are dangerous times Kikapu.

I remember welcoming the Nuclear disarmament and control treaties between Reagan and Gorbachev. Those were good days.

It’s pretty naïve to believe all the bullshit claimed by superpowers with respect to disarmaments and such.

The vast majority of what’s being said and announced by global protagonists, are nothing but LIES!

All they’re concerned about is their public image without compromising a military edge over their opponent, so deception is the name of the game.

If they dismantle/remove a nuclear site you can bet that it was a dud one in the first place placed there earlier for dismantling purposes to satisfy bogus disarmament programs and public opinion or it was obsolete technology anyway.


Terrorism is going to hit very hard, that soon, people will be scared to travel and congregate in big crowds. It is a war that can't be won. Don't let anyone tell you any different. It's all a lie.

Well terrorism can be defeated, but only if you address radicalization. Where are we addressing radicalization? Have we done this in Syria? No we have not. We have in actual fact helped radicalization and given DAESH a big boost to the point that they are going to be a major International network.

Baloney! There’s no such thing as “radicalization”. All foreign fighters entering and committing crimes against Syrians are PAID a wage/salary or one-off amount to be there by wealthy criminal states such as Israel, the Saudis, Qatar, and the US.

They locate impoverished Muslims from places like Tunisia, Morocco, and others, and give them financial incentives with “religious duty” sprinkled over the deal to make it appear “righteous”. They all foolishly assume that there’s safety in numbers and plod along... but most never return. The only religion everyone is radicalized to is the religion of MONEY… an incentive more powerful than all the religions combined.

Everything is orchestrated by the arch-criminal Jewish-American lobbies and expand from there to employ other criminal nations including the Saudis and Turkey.


I'm just giving you a good dose of reality and it doesn't matter if you don't like it.

Only the weak don't like it. The smart know how manipulate it.

And I'm afraid, a Geopolitical Power like the USA doesn't owe anything to any country. It doesn't have to put anything ahead of its interests. It will never do that. Well it does do that but only to further its own Geopolitical
alliances.

It has no obligation or duty to be the cop on the beat. It doesn't profess to be standing for HR or International Law other than in language and rhetoric so that the plebs can be all warm and fuzzy.

It is however the easiest superpower which can be manipulated. They are pretty loyal when it comes to a few countries around the world but these countries know exactly how to manipulate and influence them to further their own interests.

The USA and others have valid reasons why they act in certain situations and ignore others. No one can criticize them for it either. They are also the first to remind you that it's not their business to get involved in every conflict. If it were about Human Rights they would be at war with 150 countries. It isn't about Human Rights or Democracy. We have many friends which are not known for their Human Rights and do not have democracy. It's a Geopolitical Alliance not some global vigilante group against countries which don't meet our Western Standards. That is a fact.

Most countries are quite happy to have the USA as well.

The problem with you mate is that the RoC was never in a position to manipulate or influence the USA. They don't owe Cyprus anything. Not because the law is on your side. They don't care about that and to be truthful no country cares about that either. Russia doesn't give a fuck either because you are tiny. No gain for them. That is how they see it. In fact they put you out there to dry.

But tiny countries can be heard by the USA if they consider you an ally. There are so many tiny countries like Cyprus which are a part of their alliance. Cyprus is considered as a friend, but not an ally. Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies. Not just for the USA either. They are part of a global alliance stretching from the EU, to Asia and Asia Pacific. If Makarios was smart, Cyprus would have been a part of it but the Cyprus People were duped by utter stupidity!!

USA doesn't have to agree with the settlements but it will not allow anyone to attack Israel or embargo that country.

We don't care that the Saudis behead people under Sharia and the alliance is quite happy to back dictators all over the world as long as they can keep things under control.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The USA and Russia are about to engage each other with an Arms Race - a Nuclear Arms race. Both countries already have enough Nuclear warheads to destroy the planet multiple times so I am not sure what they wish to achieve. These are dangerous times Kikapu.

I remember welcoming the Nuclear disarmament and control treaties between Reagan and Gorbachev. Those were good days.

It’s pretty naïve to believe all the bullshit claimed by superpowers with respect to disarmaments and such.

The vast majority of what’s being said and announced by global protagonists, are nothing but LIES!

All they’re concerned about is their public image without compromising a military edge over their opponent, so deception is the name of the game.

If they dismantle/remove a nuclear site you can bet that it was a dud one in the first place placed there earlier for dismantling purposes to satisfy bogus disarmament programs and public opinion or it was obsolete technology anyway.


Terrorism is going to hit very hard, that soon, people will be scared to travel and congregate in big crowds. It is a war that can't be won. Don't let anyone tell you any different. It's all a lie.

Well terrorism can be defeated, but only if you address radicalization. Where are we addressing radicalization? Have we done this in Syria? No we have not. We have in actual fact helped radicalization and given DAESH a big boost to the point that they are going to be a major International network.

Baloney! There’s no such thing as “radicalization”. All foreign fighters entering and committing crimes against Syrians are PAID a wage/salary or one-off amount to be there by wealthy criminal states such as Israel, the Saudis, Qatar, and the US.

They locate impoverished Muslims from places like Tunisia, Morocco, and others, and give them financial incentives with “religious duty” sprinkled over the deal to make it appear “righteous”. They all foolishly assume that there’s safety in numbers and plod along... but most never return. The only religion everyone is radicalized to is the religion of MONEY… an incentive more powerful than all the religions combined.

Everything is orchestrated by the arch-criminal Jewish-American lobbies and expand from there to employ other criminal nations including the Saudis and Turkey.


I'm just giving you a good dose of reality and it doesn't matter if you don't like it.

Only the weak don't like it. The smart know how manipulate it.

And I'm afraid, a Geopolitical Power like the USA doesn't owe anything to any country. It doesn't have to put anything ahead of its interests. It will never do that. Well it does do that but only to further its own Geopolitical
alliances.

It has no obligation or duty to be the cop on the beat. It doesn't profess to be standing for HR or International Law other than in language and rhetoric so that the plebs can be all warm and fuzzy.

It is however the easiest superpower which can be manipulated. They are pretty loyal when it comes to a few countries around the world but these countries know exactly how to manipulate and influence them to further their own interests.

The USA and others have valid reasons why they act in certain situations and ignore others. No one can criticize them for it either. They are also the first to remind you that it's not their business to get involved in every conflict. If it were about Human Rights they would be at war with 150 countries. It isn't about Human Rights or Democracy. We have many friends which are not known for their Human Rights and do not have democracy. It's a Geopolitical Alliance not some global vigilante group against countries which don't meet our Western Standards. That is a fact.

Most countries are quite happy to have the USA as well.

The problem with you mate is that the RoC was never in a position to manipulate or influence the USA. They don't owe Cyprus anything. Not because the law is on your side. They don't care about that and to be truthful no country cares about that either. Russia doesn't give a fuck either because you are tiny. No gain for them. That is how they see it. In fact they put you out there to dry.

But tiny countries can be heard by the USA if they consider you an ally. There are so many tiny countries like Cyprus which are a part of their alliance. Cyprus is considered as a friend, but not an ally. Israel and Saudi Arabia are allies. Not just for the USA either. They are part of a global alliance stretching from the EU, to Asia and Asia Pacific. If Makarios was smart, Cyprus would have been a part of it but the Cyprus People were duped by utter stupidity!!

USA doesn't have to agree with the settlements but it will not allow anyone to attack Israel or embargo that country.

We don't care that the Saudis behead people under Sharia and the alliance is quite happy to back dictators all over the world as long as they can keep things under control.


Exactly what does that long expression of your undying admiration for the US ..... have to do with Syria? :roll: :roll: I think we all know what the US position is on 'everything' and it is not very flattering! But all Empires fall eventually and the US is now on the decline in its hegemony over the rest of the World. :evil:

If you want a debate on the benefits of being a 'friend' of the US ..... start a thread on the subject. :lol: :lol:

This thread is related to events in Syria ..... and although the US was mainly responsible for escalating the war there, the US has now been left standing out in the cold by Russia/Turkey/Iran on that one ..... so there is no point in including them or their coalition, in the solution ! YOUR your involvement is finished in Syria ..... so go sort out YOUR other mess in Iraq. :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Wed Dec 28, 2016 3:07 pm

It's like talking to children.

Some of you think it is encumbent on the USA to act in a manner that is supportive of Human Rights, Western Values, Democracy and peace. Sorry but very simplistic and outright STUPID! The USA will veto sanctions against Israel like Russia would veto allegations of War Crimes against a murderous regime. What is open to one is open to the other. If no one likes it then the process has to be reformed as the USA doesn't like how Assad can get away with War Crimes either. But it is a double edged sword that your side won't like and it is your side that will lose more in the end if fairness was introduced to the system.

It is encumbant on them to act in ways that furthers its interests first and then the interests of its allies which are very important as a Global Geopolitical power. That's the bottom line.

Now often, its interests are conveniently in line with all the warm fuzzy stuff and the Americans will make political mileage out of such circumstances when the planets and moons are all in alignment. But at other times, the warm fuzzy stuff isn't in line with Western Interests.

What the USA does have however is that it is the first superpower to redefine Geopolitical Power. It is the first power to not maintain its status through conquest which means that the people who run it do actually have some direction in terms of ethics, values and a sense of righteousness. We all pride ourselves as Western Countries to be generally on the side of good, and we are.

It is a country everyone is happy with as well and far more superior than any ghastly alternatives in the offing. Which is why the Coalition is an alliance between all OECD countries, EU countries, NATO countries, ASEAN and ANZUS countries.

As for the alternatives, which are not really an alternative or a threat with a GDP a third of Italy's and their terrorist Hezbollah thugs backed by that beacon of HR Iran :lol: well we will let the world be the judge of that one and up till now everyone is voting with their feet.

If you want a Mother Theresa entity, then I suggest you go to church because the Coalition isn't Mother Theresa or a charity. It is however a shitload better than the other non alternative.

How stupid can you all get and how unrealistic?

Fact is, you won't even find Mother Theresa in Church anymore so I find it ludicrous how anyone would expect the Coalition or the USA to be something it can't be and something no country is willing to be.

Grow up!
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:10 pm

Paphitis:

Some of you think it is encumbent on the USA to act in a manner that is supportive of Human Rights, Western Values, Democracy and peace. Sorry but very simplistic and outright STUPID! The USA will (not) veto sanctions against Israel like Russia would veto allegations of War Crimes against a murderous regime. What is open to one is open to the other. If no one likes it then the process has to be reformed as the USA doesn't like how Assad can get away with War Crimes either. But it is a double edged sword that your side won't like and it is your side that will lose more in the end if fairness was introduced to the system.

It is encumbant on them to act in ways that furthers its interests first and then the interests of its allies which are very important as a Global Geopolitical power. That's the bottom line.


That is the US bottom line .......... par for the course ...... i.e. supreme arrogance! YOU and the rest of the coalition hang onto their shirt tails ......and when YOU have served your purpose they will turn their back and walk away.

The war crimes are being committed, not by Assad or Putin, but by YOU and other coalition countries because they are all in breach of International Law. Assad has every right to resist militarily an incursion into the State over which he legitimately presides as its elected President. YOU have no such right, only arrogance makes you believe otherwise!

YOU have no legal right in Syria; YOU have been supplying terrorists weapons; YOU have been encouraging terrorism and as a result YOU turned an internal conflict (Not even a civil war) into a conflict that has killed almost half a million Syrians; YOU have tried without success to destroy a stable secular and democratic government and have made millions refugees, as well as the millions of displaced people in their own country. That is just the tip of YOUR long list of war crimes!

Now often, its (US) interests are conveniently in line with all the warm fuzzy stuff and the Americans will make political mileage out of such circumstances when the planets and moons are all in alignment. But at other times, the warm fuzzy stuff isn't in line with Western Interests.

What the USA does have however is that it is the first superpower to redefine Geopolitical Power. It is the first power to not maintain its status through conquest :lol: which means that the people who run it do actually have some direction in terms of ethics, :lol: values and a sense of righteousness. :lol: We all pride ourselves as Western Countries to be generally on the side of good, and we are.


YOU are on the side of YOUR own good, certainly not for the good of the people in the countries YOU destroy. YOUR perception of what is good for YOU is what drives ALL YOUR actions, always, as you point out, exclusively in YOUR and your allies interests.

Boy, are you delusional? The US deposes democracies that oppose it (Regime change) , turns them into a dictatorship, imposes their own man ........... just like any other previous colonial power. In the modern age, as YOUR coalition clearly demonstrates, the agressor does not need boots on the ground .... YOU use patsies to do the dirty work. YOU just use superior military force from afar to support the dictator. When he or she fails to toe the line he is removed and another US puppet is installed. The US Empire only differs from the old colonial Empires in line with modern developments. It is no longer a necessity to occupy a foreign land to enforce the empires interests!

It is a country everyone is happy with as well and far more superior than any ghastly alternatives in the offing. Which is why the Coalition is an alliance between all OECD countries, EU countries, NATO countries, ASEAN and ANZUS countries.


NO! Everyone is not happy with the US nor with its partners in crime! Especially those countries in which YOU have carried out a regime of destruction and death for YOUR own self interests.

As for the alternatives, which are not really an alternative or a threat with a GDP a third of Italy's and their terrorist Hezbollah thugs backed by that beacon of HR Iran :lol: well we will let the world be the judge of that one and up till now everyone is voting with their feet.


Hezbollah is a defence force ! :roll: Iran is the only country in the area that is living in relative peace, it supports Hezbollah and is helping Assad/Putin to resist they same proxies in Syria and is in the US's sights for regime change. They are also helping the people of Yemen to resist an illegal war, once again well supported by the US, Saudi and Israel. And you have the audacity to refer to Hezbollah/Iran as thugs. :x

If you want a Mother Theresa entity, then I suggest you go to church because the Coalition isn't Mother Theresa or a charity. It is however a shitload better than the other non alternative.


I agree with you ...... YOU are more a Lucifer entity

How stupid can you all get and how unrealistic?


And you think you demonstrate realism? :lol: :lol:

You are describing your own unbalanced opinions. The US coalition ...... is history in Syria. As you have been told many times over last few months and not just by me, it is now Russia that the World is increasingly showing their respect for as they have stuck to their original legal resolve and have out manoeuvred YOU at ever step of the Syrian conflict politically, diplomatically and with military superiority in planning and conception. YOUR shouting war crimes is increasingly falling on deaf ears as the truth about Aleppo seeps out with those that have had to endure YOUR terrorists for a long time! The World is beginning to see through the smoke and mirrors (false news/propaganda) of YOUR coalition.

Your posts exude the arrogance and all that is bad about the US! :evil: I refer not it's people, but its political and industrial elites and even the American people are turning against them. The US Elites attitude is, to hell with every one else, we have one objective and that is to make the World jump to our tune or else. That attitude, even in just this single post from you, is the predominating message ! :evil:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:45 pm

Back to events in Syria .........

Now the battle for Aleppo and its liberation from the US Coaliton backed terrorists, has been bought to an end, the real stories about the situation in Eastern Aleppo in particular, are beginning to come out!

The liberation of Aleppo was down to Assad’s forces and in spite of every attempt by the US to continue the killing, they won this battle and the US terrorists have lost significant influence on the ground. It was also a humiliating defeat for the US.

Liberation of Aleppo Represents US's Most Serious Setback in 15 Years - By Tim Anderson

The liberation of Aleppo, Syria’s second city and an ancient marvel, represents the most serious setback for the 15-year long Washington-led aggression on the entire region. An effective re-colonization of the region has stretched from Afghanistan to Libya, under a range of false pretexts. Invasions and proxy wars have been backed by economic sanctions and wild propaganda.

But this great war of aggression – called the creation of ‘New Middle East’ by former US President George W. Bush – has hit a rock in Syria. The massive proxy armies bought and equipped by Washington and its regional allies the Saudis, Turkey, Qatar and Israel, have been beaten back by a powerful regional alliance which supports the Syrian nation.

The endgame in Aleppo involves a handful of foreign agents – US, Saudi, Israeli and others – said to remain with the last al-Qaeda groups in a tiny part of what was once their stronghold. The US in particular is keen to secure their release, because their presence is further evidence of the foreign command of what was claimed to be a ‘civil war’.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46111.htm


The US dominated media stories about Assads SAA's torture, executions, deliberate bombing of hospitals and schools, provided by the terrorists to their western handlers were bull sh*t. But not surprisingly, there are those that still believe these stories in spite of the fact they are increasingly being exposed as propaganda supplied by the terrorists themselves, to their handlers.

Extracting Aleppo from the Propaganda

It’s rare for Americans (or Australians) to hear any version of the Syrian conflict other than the simplistic accounts favoured by the U.S. government and the mainstream news media that rely heavily on rebel sources and their international supporters who often traffic in propaganda.

One of the few independent Western journalists covering the horrific conflict is Eva Bartlett who has travelled to Syria six times in the last two years and just returned from a six-month stint in the war-torn country where she investigated human rights violations and terrorism against Syrians.

Her multiple investigations have led the seasoned Canadian journalist and human rights activist to conclusions that contradict what the Western media and governments have been reporting non-stop, regarding human rights violations by all sides.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46084.htm


Someone who knows Syria well having been Ambassador there, debunks the horror stories about war crimes by Assad and Putin ..... seems the boot is more on the other foot ..... the US foot?

Former UK Ambassador to Syria Debunks Aleppo Propaganda

"Look, tonight there is a Christmas Tree in the centre of Aleppo and celebrating people. I think if Assad were removed, and the opposition were in power, you would not be seeing a Christmas Tree in Aleppo. The demonisation of the regime has been taken to ridiculous lengths. Even the end of this crisis with the green buses; there were no green buses in Gaza, there were no green buses when NATO was bombing Yugoslavia to smithereens. This Aleppo campaign has been handled in its final stages with relative humanity. We’ve seen not what some allege to be a meltdown of humanity but a meltdown of sanity. Where are, where’s any evidence of the alleged atrocities, of the Guernica, of the massacres, the genocide, the holocaust?"

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46108.htm


The terrorists who did this are the same ‘moderate’ rebels that the US coalition has been supporting since at least 2012. Same technique the Nazi’s used ........... dead men/women/children tell no tales!

Mass graves of tortured civilians found in Aleppo – Russian MoD

Mass graves with dozens of bodies of civilians subjected to brutal torture have been discovered in Aleppo neighborhoods left by militants, the Russian Defense Ministry said Monday.

Many of the corpses were found with missing body parts, and most had gunshot wounds to the head, according to a statement by Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Major-General Igor Konashenkov.

https://www.rt.com/news/371824-aleppo-mass-graves-civilians/


Let us hope that there is some substance in this story ...... the Comprehensive Settlement that has been so often called for by the US coalition ........ just not the settlement the US Coalition anticipated. :roll:

Syria conflict: Turkey and Russia 'agree ceasefire plan

Turkey and Russia have agreed on the terms of a proposed ceasefire in Syria, where they back opposing sides in the civil war, Turkish state media report.

The Anadolu news agency cited an unnamed source as saying, the two states were working to ensure the ceasefire would start after midnight (22:00 GMT)."Terrorist organisations" would be excluded from the deal, the source added, without giving further details.

There was no immediate comment from the Syrian government or opposition.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-38449551
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:21 am

It's not arrogance just st common sense and reality.

Plus, the USA would have to be the least arrogant of all powers. There is nothing that is too much trouble for them. They lead a pack of Nations with mutual respect. They don't force the issue and everyone is happy.

In fact they are very selfless and yes they are the most likely to be on the HR bandwagon, but that is not something that is to be taken for granted because it is also just as likely that they will support a Dictator and a very ruthless Dictator at that. Not the West's job to be telling other countries how to run their affairs and it never will be.

We are quite happy to support Israel too and the West is completely justified to do that now. Right next door to Israel exists a War Criminal at large so Israel is mighty fine by us and the West's little client State that will be protected. If anyone Attacks Israel and gains any upper hand then they will have to deal with NATO, Coalition, ANZUS and many more and Iran will be blown to smithereens.

Deal with it.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Dec 29, 2016 4:54 am

America's biggest strength is not its Nuclear Arsenal, military, industrial prowess or economy.

It's biggest strength is its many friends and allies. 26 out of 27 EU countries which are NATO members (odd one out is stupid Cyprus). It's allies in the Middle East such as Kuwait, KSA, Qatar, UAE, Oman and Bahrain. It's allies in Asia such as South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. it's friends in the Asia Pacific such as Australia and NZ and countless of tiny States. And lastly it's allies in the Americas.

Every country of the OECD is an American ally one way or another.

America is one country in that chain. Just one country. UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany, Japan, Canada, Australia, Israel, South Korea and many more are strong in their own right. Combined they make a second superpower but it is the combined collective that is so influential and most of our countries have what we call "Western Values" and cohesive societies. A couple don't but that's another story.

Pootin is a pleb. He is only effective because he can only take advantage of the fact that our alliances are open and transparent countries where there is such a thing as the Rule of Law. Our military is always under scrutiny for its practices and our soldiers are not only subject under their respective Martial Law but also Civil Law these days. In other words, our soldiers can be convicted in a Military Court Marshal and then face prosecution under Civil Criminal Law if they engage in actions which violated any Geneva Convention Articles which resulted in the murder of innocent persons and civilians if deemed a deliberate and malicious act.

There is no such transparency or accountability in Russia. There is nothing of the sort.

But should any one of our countries be attacked (like Israel) then rest assured that Iran will be turned into another Syria. Make no mistake.

If Hezbollah and or Iran attack Israel, we attack Iran. That's pretty fair right?
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