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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri May 11, 2018 6:01 pm

yialousa1971 wrote:The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


But how can this be? According to Paphitis Israel is a Democracy!! :P :P :P
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Fri May 11, 2018 6:40 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


But how can this be? According to Paphitis Israel is a Democracy!! :P :P :P


But of course he is right ..... he said so! :lol: All this Russian military gear is completely useless so, the Israeli's have no need to cover up something that is an impossibility ..... so you are just spreading false news! :roll: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 12, 2018 4:15 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


But how can this be? According to Paphitis Israel is a Democracy!! :P :P :P


Australia has also invoked Military censorship on the media about Military operations associated with Border Security.

The Government does not make any public announcements concerning Border Security.

This censorship has been in place in Australia for 4 years now.

it is not an uncommon thing. the media have a tendency to jeopardise the State and even put lives at risk.

There is no correlation between that and democracy.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 12, 2018 6:35 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


But how can this be? According to Paphitis Israel is a Democracy!! :P :P :P


Australia has also invoked Military censorship on the media about Military operations associated with Border Security.

The Government does not make any public announcements concerning Border Security.

This censorship has been in place in Australia for 4 years now.

it is not an uncommon thing. the media have a tendency to jeopardise the State and even put lives at risk.

There is no correlation between that and democracy.


Exactly ..... The State tells you what The State wants you to know, everything else is denied on the grounds of protecting National Security. You have to look for the information elsewhere. That is where you fall down. You only ever have one side of the story! :roll:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat May 12, 2018 9:13 am

Australia and Israel do not report on military operations. They never have.

Yes they are tightly controlled and that is smart.

The Government makes no media release and it never releases any footage of destroyed targets. They are particularly sensitive about Border Security and have adopted a policy of complete non disclosure and a complete media black out.

The Americans are lot more liberal when it comes to these things but I wouldn't call it wise because it opens itself up to Fake news and counter claims and a media frenzy and that is not a game Israel or Australia will ever go down.

It is much easier that way.

Our Government knows what is going on. That is all that is required. The information is sensitive and people do not have a right to know.

Australia did about 2000 weapon releases in Syria. Do a search to see if you can find footage of even 1. There isn't any. Do the same with the Americans and YouTube is full of footage.

the media only knows what the Australian Government is happy to release.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 12, 2018 11:48 am

Paphitis wrote:Australia and Israel do not report on military operations. They never have.

Yes they are tightly controlled and that is smart.

The Government makes no media release and it never releases any footage of destroyed targets. They are particularly sensitive about Border Security and have adopted a policy of complete non disclosure and a complete media black out.

The Americans are lot more liberal when it comes to these things but I wouldn't call it wise because it opens itself up to Fake news and counter claims and a media frenzy and that is not a game Israel or Australia will ever go down.

It is much easier that way.

Our Government knows what is going on. That is all that is required. The information is sensitive and people do not have a right to know.

Australia did about 2000 weapon releases in Syria. Do a search to see if you can find footage of even 1. There isn't any. Do the same with the Americans and YouTube is full of footage.

the media only knows what the Australian Government is happy to release.


If the Aussie Government finds out you know so much about there secret operations ...... they would have to kill you! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 12, 2018 2:54 pm

I have never really thought about what a thermobaric bomb actually does .... until I read this! :x

Apparently, UK forces have used 82 of these in the last three months on targets in Syria! FUKUS went to war against Syria because supposedly Assad used chemical weapons against his own people, is this not a chemical weapon and a pretty barbaric and indiscriminate form of killing victims? Unconsumed explosive mixture is toxic; the damage to human organs is horrendous and it does not differentiate between men, women or children, terrorists or civilians and we here nothing about this in the MSM. We have to wait for it to leak out from other sources!

How can we (collectively) regarding ourselves as civilised people, condemn the use of chlorine as a weapon of war and then use these?

Use is not limited to the UK but all the major players use them as they are obviously expensive? Maybe this is one weapon the West cannot accuse Assad of using on his own people, although the article only quantifies use by the UK.

UK ACCIDENTALLY ADMITS USE OF HORRIFYING, ORGAN RUPTURING WEAPONS IN SYRIA - Published: May 11, 2018

At the beginning of the month (May 2018) the British Ministry of Defence seemingly on accident revealed for the first time that they are unloading horrifyingly inhumane, thermobaric weapons out of drones onto the people of Syria: and it wasn’t even in this recent April 2018 escalation of tension, but last year. They are doing it more often than they’d like to admit.
Somehow the use of thermobaric weapons seems less humane than ripping a person to shreds with shrapnel.

The weapons work by igniting oxygen surrounding the weapon.

A cloud of explosive chemicals is released, and upon impact the fuel-air mixture is detonated, exploding the lungs of animals and human beings in the vicinity, not damaging structures much but filling the lungs of all animals with fuel and burning them in what may be one of the most horrifying ways imaginable to die.

https://www.blacklistednews.com/article ... ns-in.html
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat May 12, 2018 3:08 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:The Israeli government has invoked Military Media Censorship upon all Israeli media outlets. They are forbidden to report on the ongoing clashes and cannot report on the severe damage done to Israeli outposts and military infrastructure in the Golan Heights in response to the Israeli attacks against Syria.


But how can this be? According to Paphitis Israel is a Democracy!! :P :P :P


Australia has also invoked Military censorship on the media about Military operations associated with Border Security.

The Government does not make any public announcements concerning Border Security.

This censorship has been in place in Australia for 4 years now.

it is not an uncommon thing. the media have a tendency to jeopardise the State and even put lives at risk.

There is no correlation between that and democracy.


You are comparing apples with oranges.

Australia is a democracy and (I assume) the only way to have restricted the freedom of press/expression regarding it’s borders security should have been a) via a LAW that has already been approved by your parliament. As for example it was done in Germany regarding the holocaust, and in France regarding the Armenian genocide.

The only other way in Democracies to restrict freedom of press is b) by declaring a state of emergency for reasons of National security assuming that these reasons genuinely affect the life of the nation.

Israel has not even confirmed it did anything. It lets everyone assume the bombings in Syria were done by the Martians! Neither did it ever declare a state of emergency. Restricting freedom of press on the fact that some of it’s outposts at the Golan were hit does not even endanger the life of it’s nation.

Israel is simply NOT A DEMOCRACY. It’s a military state, that strikes anywhere it likes even in neighboring countries breaking international law, and internally applying military law anytime it chooses without having to account to anyone not even to it’s own citizens.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 12, 2018 3:24 pm

Paphitis ..... this is what happens when the people are kept in the dark as to what seemingly unaccountable people are doing behind their backs. They are setting up events that are not in anyone’s interest but the very few people in what you have previously referred to as ‘The Deep State’, that are pulling the strings.

Read what the man says ...... these events are like a boulder running down a hill once started they are virtually impossible to stop......and the boulder is rolling.

Countdown To War On Iran

John Bolton is a ruthless man:

In early 2002, a year before the invasion of Iraq, the Bush administration was putting intense pressure on [José] Bustani to quit as director-general of the [Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons].
...
Bolton — then serving as under secretary of state for Arms Control and International Security Affairs — arrived in person at the OPCW headquarters in the Hague to issue a warning to the organization’s chief. And, according to Bustani, Bolton didn’t mince words. “Cheney wants you out,” Bustani recalled Bolton saying, referring to the then-vice president of the United States. “We can’t accept your management style.”

Bolton continued, according to Bustani’s recollections: “You have 24 hours to leave the organization, and if you don’t comply with this decision by Washington, we have ways to retaliate against you.”

There was a pause.

“We know where your kids live. You have two sons in New York.”

Rest of the article .........

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/05/countdown-to-war-on-iran.html#more




maybe this should be in the Iran thread but the current exchange on here seems to be appropriate.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Sat May 12, 2018 3:49 pm

Pyrpolizer .... as a follow on to your previous post ..... I thought this was an interesting observation of the New Rules of Engagement, in Syria.

Israel Now Faces New Rules Of Engagement In Syria- Zero Hedge- May 11, 2018

Even as CNN is out with a new report condemning Iran for denying any responsibility or role in the latest massive exchange of fire between Israel and Syria, The New York Times has admitted (albeit buried deep in the story) that Israel was the actual aggressor and initiator of hostilities which threatened to spiral out of control overnight Wednesday and into Thursday morning.

While CNN and most Israeli and mainstream media sources blame Iran for initiating an attack on Israel, on the very day of the early morning strikes (Thursday), the Times acknowledged, "The barrage [of Syria/Iran missiles] came after an apparent Israeli missile strike against a village in the Syrian Golan Heights late Wednesday."

This is significant as Israel is seeking to cast Iran as an aggressor on its border which must be dealt with preemptively; however Syria's response—which involved between 20 and 50 missiles launched in return fire—imposed new rules of engagement on a situation in which Israel previously acted with impunity.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-11/israel-now-faces-new-rules-engagement-syria




Maybe, Israel just lost its 'Get out of jail free card' ? There could now be a price to pay for their excursions into Syria? :roll:
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