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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:43 pm

Yialousa.

You have an amazing gift for hyperbole.

I've lost count of the times you've posted alarming pronouncements by some Russian military jobsworth of an imminent chemical attack by the rebels. Always on their own people of course. Don't you think it's odd - that they've never used any of this obviously vast arsenal of chemical weapons on Assad's forces? Even when their backs have been against the wall? :?

I look forward to your next Syrian Armageddon installment. Need more popcorn! :)
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:07 pm

This first of Turkey's S-400 missile launchers arrived today but surprisingly in a rather small box that also contained an air pump... :?

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:08 pm

Get Real! wrote:This first of Turkey's S-400 missile launchers arrived today but surprisingly in a rather small box that also contained an air pump... :?

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:26 pm

More to this story… :?

Although pleased with the prompt arrival, Erdogan was quick to blast the Russians for not supplying an operator’s manual and said…

“Our engineers worked feverishly to erect it but we do not know how to operate it and Russian customer service is not what we expected!”
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Londonrake » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:35 pm

It would be rude in extremis. So, I acquiesce to the sensitivities of my host nation.

However, somewhere, I have some photos which I took in the late 90s, at the Limassol February carnival parade, where the theme was the country's imminent procurement of S400s. As far as I can recollect there were big straw donkeys carrying a pair of missiles each side and a lot of anti-Turkish stuff draped around. Each was mounted by what was obviously a Miss Cyprus contender.

No air pumps present though. :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:47 pm

Londonrake wrote:It would be rude in extremis. So, I acquiesce to the sensitivities of my host nation.

However, somewhere, I have some photos which I took in the late 90s, at the Limassol February carnival parade, where the theme was the country's imminent procurement of S400s. As far as I can recollect there were big straw donkeys carrying a pair of missiles each side and a lot of anti-Turkish stuff draped around. Each was mounted by what was obviously a Miss Cyprus contender.

No air pumps present though. :wink:

I’m sure they made a meal out of it back then but sadly I wasn’t in CY in the 90s so I missed out on all the laughs. Oh and it was the "S-300"… an earlier variant.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kurupetos » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:42 pm

Londonrake wrote:It would be rude in extremis. So, I acquiesce to the sensitivities of my host nation.

However, somewhere, I have some photos which I took in the late 90s, at the Limassol February carnival parade, where the theme was the country's imminent procurement of S400s. As far as I can recollect there were big straw donkeys carrying a pair of missiles each side and a lot of anti-Turkish stuff draped around. Each was mounted by what was obviously a Miss Cyprus contender.

No air pumps present though. :wink:

They finally became operational some years ago in Crete...

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby kurupetos » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:46 pm

A Russian Trojan horse within Turkey.

The system's radar will collect info of all Turkish & NATO locations in the Middle East and send them back to Moscow. :wink:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby yialousa1971 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 9:23 am

Russian military plane with 14 on board disappears during Israeli strikes on Latakia

A Russian military Il-20 aircraft with 14 service members on board went off the radar during an attack by four Israeli jets on Syria’s Latakia province, the Russian Defense Ministry said.
Air traffic controllers at Khmeimim Airbase “lost contact” with the aircraft on Monday evening, during an attack by Israeli F-16 fighters on Latakia, said the MOD. The plane was 35km off the coast of Syria when it vanished.

Russian radars also registered the launch of missiles from a French frigate in the Mediterranean on the evening of September 17.

A total of 14 people were on board the plane at the time of the disappearance. A search and rescue mission is underway.

The Ilyushin 20 (IL-20) surveillance turboprop plane is an Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) platform, equipped with a wide range of antennas, infrared and optical sensors. The aircraft's SLAR (Side-Looking Airborne Radar) and the plane's satellite link allows the Russian military to monitor Syrian skies in real time.

An hour-long attack on Latakia began around 10pm local time, and targeted a power station as well as two facilities belonging to the Syrian military. Syrian officials said the attack was “foreign” and came “from the sea,” but could not initially confirm rumors that Israel was behind it. Seven people were injured in the attack, according to Syrian officials.

While the Russian military said it recorded four F-16 Israeli jets over Syria at the time of the attack on Latakia, the IDF has refused to comment on the report.

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Sep 24, 2018 1:07 pm

Arabic source on Russian meeting with Israel


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The meeting between the commander of the Russian and Israeli air force in Moscow .. A big dispute and verbal clash and the exchange of threats .. Tel Aviv apologized and Moscow rejected and demanded the investigation and Putin ordered the dispatch of 20 Sukhoi 57 and 8 Antonov aircraft carrying Kintal missiles, which fall targets 200 kilometers To a close base in Syria and threatened to drop any Israeli aircraft approaching the Syrian coast
September 22, 2018


The meeting between the commander of the Russian and Israeli air force in Moscow .. A big dispute and verbal clash and the exchange of threats .. Tel Aviv apologized and Moscow rejected and demanded the investigation and Putin ordered the dispatch of 20 Sukhoi 57 and 8 Antonov aircraft carrying Kintal missiles, which fall targets 200 kilometers To a close base in Syria and threatened to drop any Israeli aircraft approaching the Syrian coast
September 22, 2018

Moscow Beirut "Rai Today":

The Russian air force commander and his Russian air force pilots met with the commander of the Israeli air force and his pilots at a meeting in Moscow in the Russian air force's room where there was a big row and direct threats.
Israel has refused to respond to the killing of 14 Russian officers and soldiers unless the Israeli pilots and the commander of the operations unit, who ordered the bombing of Lattakia without taking into consideration the presence of the Russian plane, were killed. Israel refused, but Russia defied Israel and sent 12 Sukhawis 35S over the occupied Palestinian coast .

The atmosphere is tense despite the diplomatic rhetoric that is issued quietly but the military atmosphere is very tense and the rules of engagement may start between any moment and moment.

After Netanyahu called Putin and apologized, Russian President Vladimir Putin refused to apologize and called for a Russian-Israeli commission of inquiry into Russian air force pilots and the other. According to the result that killed 14 officers and a Russian soldier and shot down an El-20 Russian plane, Who were responsible for the attack. They were the four pilots who led the Israeli planes when they bombed sites in Lattakia and the commander of operations in the Israeli air force, who followed the mission of the planes that carried out the attack. He gave a signal only one minute before the planes arrived in Lattakia. Russian aircraft IL 20 at a distance of 3 and a half minutes of landing in the Russian military air base Bhumaimm Airport.

The commander of the Israeli air force arrived in Moscow and met immediately in the air operations room of the Russian Defense Ministry with the commander of the Russian air force and began to discuss the attack that led to the downing of the Russian plane and the killing of the 14 victims. The commander of the air force attacked the aggressor, accompanied by the commander of the air operations unit, The F-16 aircraft carried out four attacks, including the attack on Lattakia. The Israeli offered his condolences, apologized for the killing of the 14 victims and the downing of the Russian plane, and explained that his planes arrived two minutes ago to Latakia before the arrival of the Russian plane. Random targets on the air, injuring Russian plane!

He did not focus only on planes hostile to him !! The commander of the Russian air force was angered by the language and said: How do you differentiate between five air targets (four Israeli) and one Russian?
Why did your aircraft enter the landing area of ​​the Russian plane at the Humimim base?
Why did not you give the news 15 minutes ago? Where the Russian plane was then over Cyprus.
He replied that the satellites gave us immediate pictures of the unloading of goods and military equipment at a military center in Lattakia. An urgent order was issued to our aircraft to immediately go to bombard the target in Lattakia. It was not possible to tell anyone about our aerial bombardment. Our four pilots are in danger!

The Russian air force commander replied angrily: "Any military, military, military or military discipline, values, and military principles will keep you flying four F-16s capable of flying high, retreating, maneuvering and maneuvering, leaving a transport aircraft in the air defense missile Coward pilots as a shield to take shelter from the fire of air defenses.

You are responsible for the killing of the 14 Russian victims and those who compensate for their lives for their families and the honor of the Russian army.

Therefore, we apologize.

We reject them.

From now on, any Israeli aircraft approaching the Syrian coast will drop it immediately. In any event, it does not end here. An investigation is required. When your aircraft approached, they discovered the Russian plane on its radar. Why did you complete the road to bombardment and make the Russian plane hit Syrian air defense missiles? They bombed a target 6 kilometers from the Russian air base!
At the same time, your aircraft used the Russian plane as a shield and its cover and became our aircraft between your four aircraft !!

The commander of the Russian air force did not act responsibly, but acted cowardly and took care of our plane, causing the deaths of our soldiers because of poor performance and cowardice and malice
We think that the commander of the operations unit in your air force is responsible for killing them as well.
For us, it is the murderer of the 14 victims and we will only accept the investigation and punish the pilots and punish the commander of the operations unit who gave orders to send the 4 planes.
"We are at war with Iran, Hezbollah and Syria and we can not accept an investigation.

Therefore, we believe that we should bomb any center suspected of bringing down military equipment from Iran to Iranian forces and Hezbollah in Syria.

The commander of the Russian air force, we are responsible for the security and airspace of Syria,
We have left you airspace from Damascus airport to the Golan border. We did not object to your flight and bombing. We could have dropped your aircraft with the S-400 and S-300 defense systems. But today the S-300 defense system has been deployed all over Syria.

We will not allow any aircraft to fly in the Syrian airspace, and we will drop every aircraft that penetrates it, and we will send our planes over the coast. If our planes intercept us, we will engage with them and win those who win in the air fight.

"The meeting ended with you. You have a week to conduct an investigation with a Russian military air commission, and unless that happens, the consequences will be severe for your air force and for Israel," he said.

"We have an air force capable of working in the entire region and your words are a threat to us
The Russian answer immediately: Tonight I will send 12 Sukhoi F35s over the Israeli coast and I will not wait for the investigation, or your approval of the investigation. As long as you have an air force operating in the area, you have to address 12 Sukhoi 35S aircraft and see what will happen. We have more than 78 warships in the sea off Turkey, Syria, Lebanon and Israel. We have the most important strategic plane, the Antonov. We have surface-to-surface missiles that can be launched from Russia on Israel.

I ask you to inform your Prime Minister Netanyahu and I will inform the President of my Republic, President Vladimir Putin, who is the supreme commander of the Russian army.

The meeting ended with such anger, and the Russian delegation withdrew without a farewell. The Israeli delegation was taken to Moscow airport accompanied by Russian military police cars, where they took off.

The Russian air force commander, Vladimir Putin, informed the president of what happened at the meeting, which lasted only 21 minutes. President Putin waited for me and the Russian air force recovered with all its energy. He sent 20 Sukhoi 57 and 8 Antonov planes to the Hameim base in Syria immediately to arrive after 3 Hours.

At 11: 34 minutes, the Sukhoi 57 and Antonov aircraft arrived at a base in the Syrian coast near Lattakia. Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the sending of 12 Sukhoi 35S planes to be scattered in the air rather than in one squadron. Between each aircraft and aircraft 4 km, and flying over the occupied Palestinian coast to carry the missiles Kainital, which falls targets 200 km.

He also asked the commander of the Russian navy to approach the Russian naval vessels carrying sea-to-land missiles from the occupied Palestinian coast to a distance of 50 km.

The US military intelligence intercepted Russian orders via satellite eavesdropping and told Israel what was going on. Defense Secretary Matisse called Defense Minister Shwingo and said America would not allow Russia to strike Israel.
The Russian Defense Minister, I do not receive instructions from you or wait for your opinion and do what you want. In Russia, we consider the Russian Federation to be the world's greatest superpower.
The US military command (Israel) reported what was going on. Netanyahu called Putin and asked him to talk to him for absolute necessity, because President Putin did not want to respond to him.

President Putin responded by telephone

Netanyahu asked President Putin not to escalate the situation and that his security cabinet will meet tomorrow morning and study all things and may agree to a military commission of inquiry.
President Putin replied: "We will only accept an aerial military commission of inquiry.
Netanyahu asked to stop sending Russian planes over the occupied coast.

"I have given my orders and I will not go back. We are no longer Mr. Netanyahu at the negotiating table. We entered the stage of alert and entered the stage of direct conflict. The Russian planes will fly over the coast and advise you not to object because any objection to the Russian planes will face a very fierce bar.

The telephone conversation between Russian President Putin and Netanyahu ended with great anger and great disagreement. Immediately, Netanyahu gathered his army commanders together with Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and the head of the Mossad, and held a meeting.

At one hour and 16 minutes, the Sukhoi 35S were flying over the occupied Palestinian shore. Netanyahu's orders were not to contact them in any way. Russian planes flew up to Sinai and then deepened into the Mediterranean Sea and returned to Hameim.

The question now is whether Israel will accept a joint Russian military air commission of inquiry, punish its pilots and commander of the air military operations unit or refuse.

Things if Israel (Israel) refuses an inquiry commission going to escalation. If approved, the solution will be resolved.
But Russia wants to punish the attackers. The Turkish pilot who fired on the Russian plane was also punished and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan apologized to Russian President Putin and told him that the Turkish pilot had been punished.

Russia immediately sent the S-600 defense system with the number 32 system is the strongest missile defense outside Russia against air targets, and the range of the missile to 600 km,
Therefore, the S-600 missile system was named on the basis of S-600 because the range of the missile reaches 600 km.

The Russian military command asked the Syrian defense force not to fire any missiles at any targets over Syria and to leave it to the Russian missile defense against air targets.

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