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[Paphitis]

Syria airstrikes: RAF jets pictured taking off from Cyprus just hours after MPs vote to bomb ISIS

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sy ... ed-6944227

The RAF is achieving a very high tempo lately with great success.

A very welcome intervention in destroying DAESH economic capacity and oil trade.

[Paphitis]

i always excused milti and his views because of his age. but it seems it is not related to age at all. the young cunt cameron has also caught the milty disease. according to cameron anybody opposing the bombing of syria is a terrorist sympathiser. the conservatives have finally shown their true face. not even goering was as right wing as these cunts.

Cameron has been the most conservative and cautious leader within our alliance, by far. Compare it to other countries like Australia, Canada and France who have gone in boots and all. He should be your Leftist pin up boy with the approach he has taken, but in the end events have overtaken him and now Britain has no choice.

[Paphitis]

Excellent speech ...


Russia won't forget downed jet, Putin warns Turkey in annual address

Russian president says Ankara will not ‘get away with a tomato ban’ in response to ‘cynical war crime’

Vladimir Putin used his annual address to Russia’s political elite to warn Turkey’s leaders that Moscow would never forget last week’s downing of a Russian fighter jet.

The Russian president said he was still bemused by the Turkish decision to shoot down the Su-24. He said: “Perhaps only Allah knows why they did this. And it seems Allah decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey by relieving them of their sense and judgment.”

Russia has implemented a series of economic sanctions against Turkey, including banning fruit and vegetable imports and ordering Russian tour operators not to send tourists to the country. Putin emphasised that this limited response was not an attempt to move on and start afresh, however.

“There will not be a nervous, hysterical reaction, that would be dangerous for us and for the whole world,” he said. “We will not engage in sabre rattling. But if people think that after carrying out a cynical war crime, killing our people, they’ll get away with a tomato ban or some limits in the construction sector, they’re very wrong. We will keep remembering what they did. And they will keep regretting it.”

The day before, Russia’s defence ministry had called journalists to a briefing at its command centre, showing slides and satellite imagery claiming to show proof that Turkey was profiting from the trade in Isis oil.

“A unified team of bandits and Turkish elites operates in the region to steal oil from their neighbours,” deputy defence minister Anatoly Antonov said on Wednesday. Erdoğan later dismissed the accusations as “slander”.


Putin started his annual address by thanking Russian members of the forces “fighting international terrorism”. He said Russia had known what terrorism was over the years and said the current Russian campaign in Syria was “a fight for freedom, truth and justice”. The widows of the marine and pilot killed after Turkey shot the plane down were in the audience.


Putin again called for a unified coalition to fight terrorism, and said it was unacceptable to delineate between different terrorist groups. The Russian airstrikes have hit many groups that western countries do not consider terrorists. Putin also made it clear once again who he blames for the current terrorist threat.

“Iraq, Libya and Syria have turned into zones of chaos and anarchy which threaten the whole world,” he said. “And of course we know why this happened. We know who wanted to change inconvenient regimes, and crudely impose their rules. And what was the result? They made a mess, ruined the states, turned different peoples against each other and then, as we say in Russia, washed their hands of the places, opening the road for radicals, extremists and terrorists.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... imir-putin

They have already forgotten about it. All this is is empty rhetoric but I have a feeling that the Coalition strategy has been undermined.

I think the US has wanted some kind of backlash against Turkey so that the straights can be closed, but so far that has not happened.

So probably the next step might be another escalation to prod at Pootin. This provocation may come in the form of a Turkish Invasion.

[repulsewarrior]

...yet Canada had an election, and with it, there will be a return to the things Canada can do well, training, and capacity building; the fighter jets will retire, with them, ten long years of Harper's government is gone. My pride is the way Canada's government has welcomed 25,000 more Syrians, here (in about three months, the first arriving tomorrow). That takes courage. And this government was elected to do so, along with the 25,000 Canada committed to previously. Unlike the USA, Canadians are prepared to accept the risk of "terrorists in their midst", there is clear reasoning toward those that have been suffering the longest, as well as those most in need, a Principled stand, they will be warmly welcomed. If Canada is picking a side, it is the land's dwellers, not Syrians per say. Certainly, these acts makes Canada stronger, forging links with people who will support a way of life that can be emulated, should one day they find themselves beyond needing help, able to provide for those they left behind, and their new beginnings. Strong memories of Canada will have their influence in time; the war will end in any case.

Homegrown terrorists we see in California, today. It would not surprise me that this man did not get the promotion he wanted, and for his wife, this was a blaze of glory; in a twisted sense i hope so. The point is, "they" cannot be defeated with bombs, but an intention which is loving is not crushed so easily either, between the two there is a balance, is what i say. Bombs alone are no solution, even if bombs have their place.

There is a "them" that we are at war with, "they" have declared war on the rest of us. It is not so easy to see who they are, but worse is the same hidden terrorist in all of us, and the madness it can become in an instant unleashed. Fear, fear itself, should never be a good reason to act without Grace, the promise of a change that betters us (read: all of us), not just ourselves; Lest we Forget.

[Paphitis]

...yet Canada had an election, and with it, there will be a return to the things Canada can do well, training, and capacity building; the fighter jets will retire, with them, ten long years of Harper's government is gone. My pride is the way Canada's government has welcomed 25,000 more Syrians, here (in about three months, the first arriving tomorrow). That takes courage. And this government was elected to do so, along with the 25,000 Canada committed to previously. Unlike the USA, Canadians are prepared to accept the risk of "terrorists in their midst", there is clear reasoning toward those that have been suffering the longest, as well as those most in need, a Principled stand, they will be warmly welcomed. If Canada is picking a side, it is the land's dwellers, not Syrians per say. Certainly, these acts makes Canada stronger, forging links with people who will support a way of life that can be emulated, should one day they find themselves beyond needing help, able to provide for those they left behind, and their new beginnings. Strong memories of Canada will have their influence in time; the war will end in any case.

Homegrown terrorists we see in California, today. It would not surprise me that this man did not get the promotion he wanted, and for his wife, this was a blaze of glory; in a twisted sense i hope so. The point is, "they" cannot be defeated with bombs, but an intention which is loving is not crushed so easily either, between the two there is a balance, is what i say. Bombs alone are no solution, even if bombs have their place.

There is a "them" that we are at war with, "they" have declared war on the rest of us. It is not so easy to see who they are, but worse is the same hidden terrorist in all of us, and the madness it can become in an instant unleashed. Fear, fear itself, should never be a good reason to act without Grace, the promise of a change that betters us (read: all of us), not just ourselves; Lest we Forget.

Really? I would like to see that. A Canada without fighters.

Canada is about to sign a 9 Billion dollar contract to buy new fighters and it might be the F-35.

[repulsewarrior]

Paphitis, what are you imagining that i'm saying; they (the jets) will retire from this theatre of war. Their's, the Canadian contribution in an alliance with other countries (in Iraq), will not be bombs from airplanes. Actually, it will be far more upfront and personal. It will link people, toward the defense of their homes. It will be a fight against Daesh, by helping those who are not, in a manner where they too, to defend, will be up on the front lines: training, intelligence, developmental aid.

...Canada will be spending well over 60Billion$ over the next 30 years, providing its Armed Forces with new ships and planes. Canada will likely spend much more on Humanitarian Aid.

[Paphitis]

Paphitis, what are you imagining that i'm saying; they (the jets) will retire from this theatre of war. Their's, the Canadian contribution in an alliance with other countries (in Iraq), will not be bombs from airplanes. Actually, it will be far more upfront and personal. It will link people, toward the defense of their homes. It will be a fight against Daesh, by helping those who are not, in a manner where they too, to defend, will be up on the front lines: training, intelligence, developmental aid.

...Canada will be spending well over 60Billion$ over the next 30 years, providing its Armed Forces with new ships and planes. Canada will likely spend much more on Humanitarian Aid.

$60 Billion over 30 years? Is that all RW? I reckon they will spend a lot more than that mate.

Canada won't abandon its allies, especially Australia.

They will be back it will just take time. They are like the Brits - a bit slow to get off the mark, but in the end they always come through.

[repulsewarrior]

http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/origina ... c-93108473

...an interesting article on newsgathering; a prelude to the war crime trials to follow, someone keeping track.

[Lordo]

here is what soldiers from uk think.

https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/10153378485791939/?fref=nf

[Robin Hood]

I don’t think there can be any doubt as to who is now leading the peaceful road to a solution to the war in Syria. Russia has been involved for less than three months and all protagonists are now talking toward a negotiated settlement on the lines that Russia first suggested in 2012 but then the US and their Allies wouldn’t listen. It took a military intervention by Russia to exert their authority to force the issue.

The west has had four and a half years of death and destruction, the creation of millions of homeless Syrians and refugees and they got nowhere. All they have done is to increase the strength of Islamic terrorism that IS have exported to the rest of the world. Watching the US Secretary of State Kerry on TV was a joke. The guy seems to believe that the US is still running the show ...... “Now is the time to stop this war.” says Kerry without the slightest hint of embarrassment or shame! It is the US that has been funding and supporting the ‘moderate’ Islamic rebels and all this did was to prolong the war. The US’ sole aim from the very beginning has been regime change “Assad has to go!” and in the agreement this is not even referred to. This can only be seen as a climb down by the US Administration, although you wouldn't think so listening to Kerry. IMO: The FSA and the rebels now realise that they have been used as patsies for the US to achieve the geopolitical aims of the US Neocons.

Mike Whitney says it much better than I can:

John Kerry’s Moscow Lovefest

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article43764.htm